Hi Linda,
I don't know very much about the various religions, but then I'm only interested
in them insofar as they affect the conduct of family history. One thing for sure, the
Brethren were in the PA colony long before the Amish. One thing I read stated that there
was a Brethren Church in Philadelphia not long after the founding of Germantown in 1689.
I would guess that the Lutherans and the German Reformed were present at this very early
time. The largely Amish-Mennonite immigration started in the 1730's when they settled
the "Northkill Area" (later called Upper Bern Twp. in Berks Co., PA). When the
outpost settlement was attacked in 1758 during the French and Indian War, the pacifist
Mennonites refused to defend themselves and the result was the "Hochstetler
Massacre." They did give up their land and resettle in safer parts of Lancaster and
Philadelphia Counties.
My 4th great grandfather Johannes GERBER d 1777 Berks Co., PA, was in the classic
research by Gingerich and Kreider, "Amish and Amish-Mennonite Genealogies"
(1968).
One thing that my cousins and I found was that the descendants of John GERBER (1747-1819)
were not Amish but rather German Reformed. The second child of Johannes GERBER d. 1777
was Catherine GERBER (1749-1832) who married Amish Bishop Christian STOLTZFUS (1749-1783).
The good Bishop set the example by having more than twenty children with two wives and
this led to the "Pennsylvania Dutch" in Eastern PA. The big change in this time
period I expect was the weekly arrival in Philadelphia of German-speaking immigrants from
"the Palatinate." Those who had been persecuted for their religious beliefs in
Europe could now join one of several different Protestant churches or form their own
church if so desired.
Now that I have some interesting findings in Chester Co., PA, I want to study the entire
family's ancestors, especially the ones that move to Somerset Co., and other counties
in Western PA. I also want to know about my immediate ancestors from the northeast Corner
of OH, who except for the GARBER surname, were very little little influenced by the
Amish-Mennonites. Or as my father once said, "we went to grade school with Amish
children" -- clearly he and his sister did not think that they too came from Amish
ancestors. But I think they did -- some questions still exist.
Sometime I need to build a web site for every family historian that has a GERBER or GARBER
in their family tree. This will require information on some to many GERBER/GARBERs who
were not my ancestors. Suprisingly this has led to the speculation about connections
between major lines. Now we have to go "find it."
I know of Brethren GARBERs that come from Washington Co., MD. I am going to depend on
Mennobits to "cover" various GARBERs from this line.
Thanks for the information that you sent.
Doug Garber
klnor.gen(a)juno.com wrote:
I think this is probably my husband's 5 great grandfather Jacob and his
brother Christian. They both lived in Warwick Twp, Lancaster Co PA and
were Brethren. I do not know which church he was a member of.
Our Jacob sold his land to his brother Johannes in 1773 and moved to
Washington Co MD. Their father was Ulrich who was the son of Hans.
Ulrich was a brother to Johannes who was the father of Christian and
Moritz. As usual, they interchanged names alot.
What do you all think?
Linda Norman
Here is another possibility for you - a Christian Zug and wife,
along with
Jacob Zug and wife are found in the membership roster of White Oak
Land
Brethren Church in 1770. It is located in the parish of Warwick,
Lancaster County. This of course could be a different Christian Zug
but
the White Oak Land Congregation may have resulted in someone giving
a
birth place as Whiteland and then placing it in Chester County?
Might be
worth checking? Nadine Holder
> Hi All,
> Here is an interesting connection: Barbara ZUG b 1743 E.
Whiteland
> Twp., Chester Co., PA, was the d/o Christian ZUG b. 1710 Hesse,
Germany
> and Anna KANNABEL. She married Michael BUCHELE/BEEGHLEY who
founded the
> Brethren GARBER line that went to Montgomery Co., OH. (Don't have
this
> full line in the database yet.) There is one other Brethren
GARBER line
> that seems to originate in Whiteland Twp. Also, I have some
indication
> that Chester County, PA, contains ancestors of Johannes GERBER, d.
1777
> Berks Co., PA.. Barbara ZUG b 1781 Exton, Chester Co., PA. was a
grand
> daughter of Moritz ZUG b. 1715 Hesse, Germany (brother of the
above
> Christian). She was also w/o Hannes GERBER b. 17 Jan 1772 Cumru
Twp.,
> Berks Co., PA, the son of Johannes d. 1777 and his second wife
Susanna.
> This seems to be the best chance yet to find the maiden names of
the
> wives of Johannes GERBER d 1777 -- ZUG or ZOOK is currently the
> favorite. This also seems to be the source of a lost line of
GARBERs
> that went to Juniata Co., PA -- not sure whether this line was
Amish or
> Brethren. I need help with the following. I'm not sure where the
LAPP
> Cemetery in the Chester Valley is located. This also the place
that may
> contain both Brethren and Amish LAPPs. No one seems to realize
that
> George LAPP b 1740 m. Veronica Franey GERBER b 1750 (the third
child of
> Johannes d. 1777 and Christina). Christian ZUG and possibly his
brother
> Moritz ZUG are buried there. Could this cemetery be located at
E.
> Whiteland Twp. or at Malvern? I can find Malvern on my road atlas
-- it
> is just off Rt.30 at the edge of where Philadelphia begins. Sure
would
> like to know who is buried in these cemeteries. Doug Garber
>
>
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