Diana
The names you gave me do not show in my index. I was in Germany last May and
visited 8 cities, I looked up the name Ziegler in all the phone books of the
cities I visited, all were spelled Ziegler, Sorry I could not be more helpful.
Allen,
Yes, I'm familiar with the many spellings for many surnames..but I've met
some purists over time that only research a set spelling and get offended if
you suggest otherwise so I've learned to ask...to save my head! My Siglers
were spelled various ways including Saglen so I've had to be creative when
searching for them.
Isaac Sigler was in Allen Co, KY for the 1820 and 1830 census. There's a land
indenture dated April 2, 1829 between Isaac & Ann Seglar and Joseph & Mary
Frost of Allen Co, KY. Isaac then sells the land Sept 2, 1830 to John W.
Crow.
Isaac and Ann's children were: Sarah Sigler born 1807 in KY, John born 1810
in KY, Emanuel born 1812 KY, Elizabeth 1815 KY, Jane born 1818 KY and Mary
Margaret born 1820 KY.
Sometime after the 1830 census and the sale of his land in Sept the family
moved to Hamilton Co, IL. And the children married in Hamilton Co, IL
beginning with Emanuel who married Lucinda Mayberry Sept 18, 1831, Elizabeth
married Henderson Mayberry Nov 1, 1832, Sarah "Sally" Sigler married Henry
Cross on Mar 7, 1833, Mary Margaret married David K. Mayberry May 1, 1836.
Isaac, John and Emanuel all patented land in Hamilton Co, IL on 7/28/1838 so
I can assume Isaac probably died between then and 1840 as Isaac was not
enumerated in the 1840 census. John and Emanuel continued to patent land in
1850, 1852, 1854, 1855. 2 parcels lay in White Co so they straddled the
county line. John was enumerated in White Co, IL after the 1860 census.
Ann Sigler was living in John's household for the 1840 census. In 1850 she
was listed in the household above John Sigler, spelled Tagler in the census
while she was listed as Ann Saglen! Also in Ann's household was daughter Jane
Sigler and an Andrew Sigler (age 13, born IL) who is possibly the youngest
son of Ann and Isaac, a son of Jane or the son of John and his first wife
Isabella Black.
Ann was 74 years old in 1850 which puts her birth year as approx. 1776 and
she states she was born in NC. In the 1880 census daughter Elizabeth states
her parents birthplace as NC (father) and VA (mother) while John states both
parents were born in NC. They are the only two children living in 1880 that I
know of at this time. Emanuel and Mary Margaret were both dead by then and I
have not found a marriage record for Jane yet so I do not know what happened
to her....Andrew Sigler was still in Hamilton for the 1860 census but I have
not find him in the 1880 census yet.
Isaac and family ring any bells for anyone? Best regards, Diana
In a message dated 4/1/2003 1:30:17 PM Mountain Standard Time, alzieg(a)att.net
writes:
> Diana
> The difference in the spelling of the name should be ignored for two
> reasons;
> In the first place , in the olden days spelling was precarious. Often men
> spelled their own names with different spellings on different occasions or
> a
> clerk or lawyer spelled the name as he heard it pronounced rather than
> bother
> to ask how to spell it. When the early emigrant came to America early in
> the
> 18th Century the English clerks who could not speak German spelled the
> names
> phonetically in many instances thus we have: Ziegler, Zeisler, Zeagler.
> Zegler,
> Zigler, Ziegeler, Zeigler and Sigler. The other reason is that here in
> America
> the census were printed about 150 years after they were written. The paper
> and
> ink faded, fine strokes of the pen had worn away as the pages rubbed
> against
> each other in use, and the clerks, experts as they were in reading old
> documents
> sometimes erred in interpreting the hand writing. All that being said the
> surname and spelling is ZIEGLER. My research often revealed the change was
> made
> at the whim of the individual family member. Diana can you give me the
> birth
> dates of the oldest head of household of the oldest generation you have
> records
> of
>
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