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from Jack Allen Ziegler
my email is zieglerj2(a)hotmail.com
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Hello All,
Is anyone else researching this line? If so please contact me at my
email address below.
Heinrich Ziegler b 1860? married Agnes Mueller 1865? had the following
children:
Ernst Ziegler born 3/26/1902 in Barth,Pommern Germany. D.4/2/1948 New
York,USA
Herbert Ziegler m. Charlotte ? Herbert had come to America and went back
to Germany in 1938 or 1939.
Anneliese Ziegler
Agnes Ziegler
There is belief their may have been other children born to the above.
If there is any connection, please let me know.
Pam,
Didn't receive your email address (my reader's different than most others)
so I have to respond here to the list.
About 6 or 7 of us Ziegler researchers suddenly discovered we had an
"informal" group going, and I have suggested that everyone subscribe
to this list to relay our info back and forth. We are all working on the
same lines, but we need to share with all the other via this list.
Haven't gotten any replies yet from the others, but maybe the traffic will
pick up a bit.
RGDS:EARL in Louisville
earl_cook(a)pvn.com
ecook(a)ntr.net
Well, I am here. I am a newbie to the Ziegler list but still interested.
The "test" messages reminded me a little of some kind of space probe
looking for life on distant planets!!! Oh, I consider myself reasonably
intelligent. You can tell your people there is "intelligent life" out
there!!! (hehehe)
Richard
Have we found them all?
Helene
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> From: PJ <pjben(a)ix.netcom.com>
> To: ZIEGLER-L(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: Test
> Date: Monday, September 29, 1997 8:35 AM
>
> Earl,
>
> I was wondering that myself...:) It appears to be, just no one is
> posting anything.
>
> Researching: Armbruster Bodden Kettner Mueller Seeger Tatsch Weyh
> Ziegler
> http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/1214/
>
> Take Care!
> Pam
Earl,
I was wondering that myself...:) It appears to be, just no one is
posting anything.
Researching: Armbruster Bodden Kettner Mueller Seeger Tatsch Weyh
Ziegler
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/1214/
Take Care!
Pam
Hello Everyone,
I just started researching the ziegler's. What is known from my Aunt
that she can remember is that Ernest Ziegler My grandfather was born in
Barth,Germany and he was a merchant marine and jumped ship when docked
in New York.
Heinrich Ziegler m. Agnes Mueller b.1860-1880? and they had the
following children.
Ernest Ziegler b.1902 in barth,Germany d.1948 New York,USA m.Franziska
Armbruster on 9/05/1925 Manhatten,New York,USA.
Agnes Ziegler
Herbert Ziegler
Anneliese Ziegler
My aunt feels there might have been more of them and she thinks a son
died at a early age.
Let me know if there is any connection.
Children of Ernest Ziegler & Franziska Armbruster
Annelisa b . 1926
Otto Ziegler b.1927
Erica b. 1941
Ernest b. 1945
Anyone else researching this line?
Pam
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/1214/
In my e-mail of 29 Aug 1997, Oktoberfest Computer and Zeigler Workshop,
I expressed the need to locate the (older) David Zeigler's (C1675/1685 -
C1753 / 1785) Bible records and the Gottlieb Stabler (20JAN1732 -
12Jul1757) / Anna Barbara Zeigler Stabler's (27MAR1733 - ???) Bible
records.
I need help. Carolyn, do you or Francis have any suggestions as to
where these records might be located? I said that I had seen where they
might be in Mississippi. Now, I see in Gladys Dieckmann's 1984
Ancestor Chart that her John Jacob Zeigler died in Claiborne, AL, in
1844. He was one of Gottleib and Anna Barbara's twelve children who
were born from 1758 to 1779. Surely, one out of the twelve kept the
family Bible or was the family historian. Do you have any ideas on
this? I will check out Calhoun Co.
Any help from you or the others receiving this will be greatly
appreciated.
Oburg Bob H. ______
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Subject: Okotoberfest Computer and Zeigler Workshops
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 22:22:04 -0400
From: Robert D Hemphill <rdhemphill(a)oburg.net>
To: Orangeburghlist GENEALOGY <ORANGEBURGH_SC-L(a)rootsweb.com>
I am delighted to hear that Gene will have the computer workshop at
Oktoberfest. I hope this is true. The Orangeburg Computer Club last
Tuesday meeting was on the use of Family Tree Maker. Ben Edge, the
president, gave a very enlightening demonstration. I announced our
workshop and was asked if they could come. I told them yes and that the
details would be out in the paper later. Right?
Carolyn Luker, Will Miller, Bob Hemphill, Gene Jefferries and others
have made comments about errors in the Zeigler/Ziegler/Seigler/Segler
page on the Society's Web Page. Gene has told us to send in
corrections. This we have not done. I understand that they are
planning a Zeigler work table at Oktoberfest. I hope this is so. What
we need on this table are the TWO TUTOR DOCUMENTS. The older David
Zeigler is said to have arrived on the ship Elizabeth in Charleston Feb
1753 with children and grandchildren and a tutor who was a female who
kept family records in their Bible. We need to locate these records.
There are problems with this information. David's youngest daughter,
Anna Barbara Zeigler, was born in 1733 making her twenty arriving in
Charleston in 1753. She married Gottlieb Stabler in SC in 1757. She
did not need a tutor. The tutor must have been for the grandchildren.
He had five grandchildren by his son Fritz. The youngest grandchild was
age 13. We need to get a copy of these records. I have seen many
family histories refer to these Bible records but none are as you would
expect from Bible records, i.e. dates, names clear, locations, etc. I
may be the only one that doesn't know where this Bible is. It is not in
the Lutheran Seminary. Could it be in Calhoun Co, SC? If anyone can
help locate it, please let me hear from you.
The second tutor was a man named Francois Dufour, native of Leipzig. He
also kept the family records. He was the teacher of the children of
Gottlieb Stabler and Anna Barbara Zeigler Stabler. So, he was teaching
David's grandchildren. He can't be the same tutor as the first was said
to be a female.
There are problems with these records also. David is called Donald
David Zeigler. The Germans here in town say that Donald is not a German
name. It is English. The tutor gave David's birthplace as Siestadt in
Haystemm, Duchy (State) of Wurtemberg. This is the only source of this
information that I know of. It appears to be correct. The original of
this document is said to be still in existence, I believe in Miss. We
need to get it out on the table and see what it says.
It surprised me to read that a 1750's German immigrant family brought
their tutor with them to SC. Also, the author of a history of the
Lutheran Church in SC was surprised to find a church in the 1700's full
of German Lutherans who could sign their names. This does not surprise
me after reading Laura Maxwell's 1905 book, <IN SUABIA-LAND
(WURTEMBERG)> (library exchange loan). Evidently the SUABIANS had an
intense desire or drive to obtain an education, self taught or
otherwise. Many could read, write, speak and give and understand
presentations in two or three languages. Michael was Fritz's son and
grandson of David. I am going to withdraw my speculation that Michael
was bound out in 1753 for four years as an apprentice to someone who
would teach him English. Who knows? This tutor may have already taught
Michael two or three languages. That would make him very much in demand
with the Charleston importers and exporters.
The inscriptions on a tombstone in the cemetery next to the Orangeburg
Co. Court House are as follows:
FATHER / Gottlob August Neuffer (Doctor)
Born Basenheim, Wurtemberg, Germany, Feb. 12 1817
Died Orangeburg, S.C., April 5, 1882
MOTHER / Maria Lousia Happoldt, Wife of G. A. Neuffer
Born Charleston, S. C., July 9, 1825
Died Abbeville, S. C., Sept. 11, 1897
This is the only one that I have seen around Orangeburg that includes
the city or village birthplace in Germany. Let me hear from you if you
know of others. Also, please let me know the names of all immigrants
that came to the Orangeburg area from Wurtemburg. I want to put a list
of them in a copy of the Wurtemberg book and donate the copy to the
Orangeburg Co. Library. The local Germans will probably enjoy reading
about their native land. Right?
Please let me hear from you. Best regards, Oburg Bob H. _____
Hello,
New subscriber here. I am searching for info on the following person:
Emma Alice Ziegler (or Zeigler) born in Maryland abt 1863, married William
Zittle abt 1883 in Sharpsburg, MD. Moved to Sangamon County, IL. Remarried
Joseph Sexton 5/18/1915 in Springfield, IL. Died June 17, 1928, age 65, in
Marne, IA and buried in Springfield, IL.
If this person is in anybody's line please let me know. Thanks.
Richard Sergeant
Seattle, WA