I think that you will find that the shoe shop in St Helen's Road was PENHALE and not
PENROSE - my family knew the Penhales. We did not know that they were connected to the
Penrose family though - we learn something every day!!
Marilynn Osment
marilynn.osment(a)btinternet.com
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From: Jeff Coleman
To: WLS-SWANSEA-L(a)rootsweb.com
Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 8:30 PM
Subject: Re: Re:[SWANSEA] Address.
St. James's Chapel of Ease is at St. James Crescent and Walter Road,
Uplands, Swansea. It was quite new in 1871 and was the fashionable church
for the moneyed classes who had started to move west out of the town centre.
In the early 1870s when the local paper published lists of collections from
different churches and chapels for 'Hospital Sunday' for the Swansea
Hospital, St. James's would raise more than the parish church, St. Mary's.
Find it on Multimap by searching for
St James's Crescent, SA1, SWANSEA
The shape of roads around Belle Vue Terrace has changed quite a lot, firstly
from late 1870s slum clearance not far away which created Alexandra Road and
then in the rebuilding after the blitz in WW2. Modern Bellevue Way is in
very much the same area, but does not have the same alignment. On Multimap
look for College Street, Swansea.
Bellevue Street was very close to Holy Trinity Church ( which was burned out
in the 1941 blitz and never rebuilt ) so you might find baptism records
there.
In 1851 your PENROSE family are at No. 2 Bellevue Street . Emily age 3 was
the second of three daughters. They and their mother were all born in
Swansea. They had two servants. William was 33 and his wife 34.
There was another PENROSE family headed by John W. PENROSE, 42, commercial
traveller also from Redruth, at 31 Union Street.
A third PENROSE family was at Blaengwrach in the Neath valley, but the head,
Coal Proprietor George PENROSE, 47, is shown as born at Glyncorrwg,
Glamorgan.
By 1861 your William was a Silver Smelter and lived at 2 Upper Brunswick
Place, further west of the centre, and nearer St. James's. There were no
more children.
John PENROSE was widowed and lived at 9 Picton Place and was a 'Manchester
Warehouseman'.
A new PENROSE family had appeared headed by Thomas, 33, born Redruth, also
an Assayer, living in Grove Place, near Bellevue Street.
If William PENROSE was smelting silver, he was probably working for the
VIVIAN family business at the Hafod works. The VIVIAN family were of course
originally from Cornwall not far from Redruth, and like many of the leading
people in the copper business had Cornish origins.
There were regular ships several times a week between Swansea, Padstow,
Ilfracombe and Bristol, and of course the shipment of copper ore and
part-smelted copper from Hayle and south Cornwall ports like Calstock meant
that there were plenty of vessels travelling to and fro.
"This lookup was made using material published by Glamorgan Family History
Society, details of membership and their research service with a full list
of published indexes and transcriptions for sale can be seen on
http://www.glamfhs.org/ "
I have come across two other PENROSE connections later in Swansea . In the
former Ebenezer Primitive Methodist Chapel, Neath Road, Plasmarl, there was
a large memorial to a Mr & Mrs PENROSE. There was also a shoe shop in St.
Helen's Road about 20 or 30 years ago called PENROSE, which was family-owned
by descendants of a PENROSE family.
Which of the various PENROSE families, I don't know.
Hope this helps.
Jeff
whose great-great-grandparents left Port Isaac for Swansea about 1850.
----- Original Message -----
From: <Edawnmarie(a)aol.com>
To: <WLS-SWANSEA-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 5:16 PM
Subject: Re:[SWANSEA] Address.
My g.g grandfather,William Penrose, left his home at Redruth,Cornwall
to
live at Swansea.In 1847 he and his wife Catherine Penrose formerly
Richards
(Welsh/Cornish?) were living at Belle Vue Terrace,Swansea and Williams
occupation
was Assay Master.My g.grandmother,
Emily Margaret,was born at this address 13th June 1847 and on 9th March
1871
she married my g.grandfather Frederick James Bradley at The Chapel of Ease
of St.James,in the parish of Swansea.
Can anyone tell me where Belle Vue Terrace is/was and the same for the
church?Also,if anyone has any information on the Penrose(after leaving
Cornwall)
and the Richards family I would be most grateful.
Kind Regards,
Elizabeth in sunny Cornwall.
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