Hi Kathy
1891 Census - RG12/4472 f23 p42 schedule 226
Civil Parish of Llangyfelach, Municipal borough of Swansea , Ecclesiastical
parish of St John's, Clydach, Rural Sanitary District of Swansea,
parliamentary district of Western Gower.
Maesygwrnyn Mansion [location on census makes it clear this is the same
place as Maes-y-gwernen]
William WILLIAMS Head M 50 Tin Plate Manufacturer b Glamorgan Llangyfelach
Margaret " Wife M 41
Alice A daur S 20 Living on own means
Thomas J son S 19 scholar
Mary B daur S 15 scholar
John B EDWARDS g.son S 2 scholar all b Glamorgan, Llangyfelach
Jane PHILLIPS servant S 28 Servant Domestic b Carmarthen
Ann DAVIES servant S 31 Servant Domestic b Llansamlet, Glamorgan
Anne COX servant S 21 Servant Domestic b Wilts
Anne WILLIAMS servant S 17 Servant Domestic b Llansamlet, Glamorgan
all spoke both Welsh and English apart from Anne COX who only spoke English.
There were two dwellings immediately before this one which were 'Maesygwrnen
Lodge'
One held William WILLIAMS Head M 43 Gardener b Monmouthshire
and wife Mary 45 b b Monmouthshire
The other held Thomas COLE Head M 26 Farm Bailiff b Pembroke#
his wife Sarah 36 also b Pembroke
and two single lodgers, William EVANS 26 farm labourer and John Price 21
blacksmith, both also b Pembroke
Both households spoke only English.
If your William ROBERTS was farm bailiff at Maesygwernen then he may have
come into the job after COLE, and probably into the same tied cottage.
However, of he had retired as farm bailiff at the time of his death, COLE
may have taken over his cottage.
There were several 'Mansions' in the enumeration district, all occupied by
tinplate manufacturers, and all I suspect former farms which had been bought
up by the nouveau-riche capitalists and turned into rather imposing
dwellings.
1891 was just about the peak of the tinplate industry in the Swansea area,
which had become the business centre of the tinplate trade in Great Britain,
[with 106 mills running by 1913 in the Swansea Valley]
"In July 1891 the United States Government imposed a tariff to protect its
own developing tinplate industry from British competition. This increased
the price of imported tinplate in the U.S.A. by 70 per cent and stimulated
tinplate production in America." [from 'The Lower Swansea Valley Project'
p28] This 'McKinley Act' had a huge effect in the Swansea area, as the main
export market was in America. However by 1913 the growth of European and far
East trade had more than compensated for the loss of American business.
Mr WILLIAMS also had a coachman, address also Maesygwrnen, a few dwellings
later
Joseph FREEMAN 38 b had a wife Elizabeth 41 and son Thomas J 12, scholar
. They also had a lodger, William H GARDNER, single, 32, a gardener . The
Freemans were born in Pembrokeshire, their son and lodger in Glamorganshire.
All three Freemans only spoke English, the lodger spoke both.
The main road from Pembrokeshire east towards London ran just a few hundred
metres away, through the centre of Morriston.
Hope this helps
Jeff
Swansea
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kathy" <kathy.inwa(a)verizon.net>
To: <WLS-SWANSEA-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2003 4:34 PM
Subject: [Swansea] William WILLIAMS
Does anyone know who William WILLIAMS' wife was and their
children? If he
had a son named William or John, who was his wife? The family
story goes
William WILLIAMS married my great aunt Sarah (ROBERTS) married; the WILLIAMS
who was connected to the Maesygwernen Farm below. I think that it could
have been his son, not him, who married my great aunt.
"Maesygwernen Farm and its lands of "67 acres, 1 rood and 3 perches or
thereabouts" were bought on 21 Dec 1885, by Mr. William Williams, a
tinplate manufacturer living at Forest Hall, at a cost of £3,950. Mr.
Williams was born Nov. 17, 1840, and died Apr 21, 1904; having been mayor
of Swansea Borough in 1884 and 1885, and a Member of parliament,
representing Swansea District, from 1893-1895."
Thank you, Kathy
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