Hi Stella
I'm interested also in what you have found because my ancestor was also a
bootmaker/shoemaker from Swansea and his name was THOMAS. His daughter MARY
was my g.g. grandmother who was on one of the first four ships leaving
Gravesend in London for Canterbury, New Zealand. Can't remember his (the
bootmaker) first name without checking it up although I have it somewhere.
Wouldn't it be amazing if they were one in the same. I don't find much on
here that directly links my ancestory but I think this might. I will contact
you again next week when I have more time.
Thankyou!
Kaye Sutherland
graphart(a)winshop.com.au
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stella Watkin" <stella.watkin(a)ntlworld.com>
To: <WLS-SWANSEA-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 4:20 AM
Subject: [Swansea] Gazey/Mazey murder C May 16 1881 Trial Swansea Assizes
Hi folks
I am trying to help someone in Canada find out more about her GAZEY
relatives and can't find a trace of these brothers, Benjamin, David, who
were on trial for murder in Swansea in the 1881 census (or mother Jane):
THE TIMES, MONDAY, May 16, 1881
CHARGE OF MURDER AGAINST TWO CHILDREN.
At Swansea Assizes, before Mr. Justice Cave, Benjamin Gazey aged 11 and
David Gazey, age nine, were on Saturday indicted for the wilful murder of
John Thomas, aged ten, and Jane Gazey, mother of the prisoners, was
charged
as an accessory after the fact. The deceased, son of a shoemaker at
Kidwelly, had been sent with a pair of boots, for which he received 10s.
He
was last seen alive entering the prisoners' house by the side of
the high
road. Search being made, his body was found two days afterwards in a ditch
at the back of the house, the skull being entirely beaten in. The three
prisoners told a story to the effect that deceased had fallen from a swing
and had been killed and that they buried him, being terrified ; but
medical
evidence showed that the injuries could not have been so caused. The
prisoners were found in possession of the change for the half-sovereign
which deceased has received. About 20 witnesses were examined. The Judge
summed up impartially, and the jury, after some consideration, returned a
verdict of acquittal.
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Would anyone who lives in Swansea do her the great favour of looking at
the
local Swansea/Kidwelly newspaper for the date circa May 16 1881, to
see if
there are more details.
I've now found the Gazey family in 1881 census awaiting trial in
Carmarthen
prison, entered as Mazey in error?:
Institution: "H. M. Prison" Spillman St
Census Place: Carmarthen St Peter, Carmarthen, Wales
Source: FHL Film 1342300 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5397 Folio 78
Page 11
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
William HENDON U 19 M Bradford, York, England
Rel: Prisoner
Occ: Shoemaker
Ann MORSE M 55 F Fishguard, Pembroke, Wales
Rel: Prisoner
Occ: Needlewoman
Ellen JONES U 57 F Amlwch, Wales
Rel: Prisoner
Occ: Hawker
John EDWARDS U 19 M Llandilo Fawr, Carmarthen, Wales
Rel: Prisoner
Occ: Labourer
David THOMAS M 45 M Blaenfoes, Wales
Rel: Prisoner
Occ: Shopkeeper (Grocer)
William JONES M 21 M Llanstephan, Carmarthen, Wales
Rel: Prisoner
Occ: Labourer
James THOMAS M 34 M Carmarthen, Carmarthen, Wales
Rel: Prisoner
Occ: Hawker
William ROBINSON M 33 M Pembroke, Wales
Rel: Prisoner
Occ: Mason
Thomas WILLIAMS M 22 M Aberystwith, Cardigan, Wales
Rel: Prisoner
Occ: Stone Polisher (Mason)
William HARLEY U 30 M Southampton, Sussex, England
Rel: Prisoner
Occ: Tailor ((Tatlor))
Jane DAVIES U 31 F Llanelly, Carmarthen, Wales
Rel: Prisoner
Occ: General Serv
Aaron THOMAS U 22 M Llandilo Fawr, Carmarthen, Wales
Rel: Prisoner
Occ: Engine Driver
William DAVIES M 40 M Penally, Pembroke, Wales
Rel: Prisoner
Occ: Labourer
William THOMAS M 35 M Fishguard, Pembroke, Wales
Rel: Prisoner
Occ: Ship Carpenter
John THOMAS W 29 M Carmarthen, Wales
Rel: Prisoner
Occ: Groom
William H. SUTTON M 53 M Haverfordwest, Pembroke, Wales
Rel: Prisoner
Occ: Clerk
John FRANCIS U 39 M Scotland
Rel: Prisoner
Occ: Tailor
David MORRIES M 33 M Llandilo Fawr, Wales
Rel: Prisoner
Occ: Blacksmith
Evan DAVIES W 25 M Penbryn, Wales
Rel: Prisoner
Occ: Labourer
Jane MAZEY M 34 F Cardigan, Wales
Rel: Prisoner
Occ: Dressmaker
David MAZEY 11 M Llanelly, Wales
Rel: Prisoner
Occ: Sholar
Benjamin MAZEY 9 M Llanelly, Wales
Rel: Prisoner
Occ: Scholar
David BOWEN M 44 M Llanelly, Carmarthen, Wales
Rel: Prisoner
Occ: Shoemaker
William GRIFFITHS U 20 M Merthyr Tydvil, Wales
Rel: Prisoner
Occ: Labourer
John PARNALL U 30 M Bath, Gloucester, England
Rel: Prisoner
Occ: Labourer
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I believe this is the family that lost John Thomas in Kedwelly:
Census Place: Kidwelly, Carmarthen, Wales
Source: FHL Film 1342296 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5377 Folio 71
Page
32
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
David THOMAS M 52 M Llandefeilog, Carmarthen, Wales
Rel: Head
Occ: Shoemaker
Sarah THOMAS M 50 F Llangendeirn, Carmarthen, Wales
Rel: Wife
Ann THOMAS 17 F Llandefeilog, Carmarthen, Wales
Catherine THOMAS 15 F Llandefeilog, Carmarthen, Wales
Sami THOMAS 8 M Kidwelly, Carmarthen, Wales
or this one?
Dwelling: Old Chapel
Census Place: Kidwelly, Carmarthen, Wales
Source: FHL Film 1342296 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5377 Folio 79
Page
4
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Evan THOMAS M 41 M St Ishmael, Carmarthen, Wales
Rel: Head
Occ: Boot & Shoa Maker
Lettice THOMAS M 39 F St Ishmael, Carmarthen, Wales
Rel: Wife
Occ: Boot & Shoe Maker Wife
Mary THOMAS U 20 F St Ishmael, Carmarthen, Wales
Rel: Daur
Occ: Employed at Tinworks
Jane THOMAS 12 F Kidwelly, Carmarthen, Wales
Rel: Daur
Occ: Scholar
Lettice THOMAS 7 F Kidwelly, Carmarthen, Wales
Rel: Daur
Occ: Scholar
Peter THOMAS 5 M Kidwelly, Carmarthen, Wales
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
William THOMAS 2 M Kidwelly, Carmarthen, Wales
Rel: Son
(If anyone needs any 1881 census, Vital Records II, Pigot's London 1825,
PO
London 1850, First Fleet 1788 to Aus lookups, Bedfordshire Wills, I
would
be
more than pleased to help you)
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