I am copying this to the Glamorgan list as I think there are some experts on
Gorseinon and Loughor around.
It would be helpful if you could share with us the name of the person who
made the will, and maybe names of people mentioned in it, so there is
chance of finding them in censuses.
I suspect that both names are farms or smallholdings. the Borough of Loughor
was not a big place, though the parish of Loughor surrounding it was quite
extensive.
So far the only mention I have found is a reference to a legal dispute about
another will, reported in the Swansea local newspaper in 1857.
www.swansea.gov.uk/cambrian takes you to search an index to articles
appearing in the 'Cambrian'.
25 December 1857 COUNTY BUSINESS:LEWIS REES & JAMES DAVIES RE OWNERSHIP OF
HOUSE,RHYDYPOLON,LOUGHOR.P5.
25 December 1857 SWANSEA POLICE:LEWIS REES,LOUGHOR,CHARGED RE NON-PAYMENT OF
RENT FOR HOUSE,RHYDYPOLON.P5.
In 1861 census Lewis Rees,a collier age 58, his wife Mary age 63 and a
nephew John Rees age 4 were living in Loughor boro' between Loughor Mill
and Furze Hill, which suggests that if he was still in the house in
question, it was located near Kingsbridge maybe towards 'Waun' in the Upper
Loughor part of the borough, on what is now Swansea Road Gorseinon.
To find Kingsbridge on old-maps.co.uk search for Tafarn y Trap, SA4 4AS
'Rhyd' is a Welsh word for a ford, so the location should be near a stream
or river, though the river Loughor has had a bridge over to Carmarthenshire
for many centuries.
'Pant' is a Welsh word for a hollow or valley, and various place names
including 'Engine' seem to refer to the location of winding engines for
lowering coal trucks down an incline, so it might have been near a colliery,
of which there were quite a number, possibly the old Waun colliery, near the
later Cae Duke colliery.
Loughor used to be in the Llanelly registration district, rather than
Swansea, so if you are trying to match up birth, marriage or death
registrations from there, look in Llanelly.
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Loughor/ is about Loughor, and has a
link to a map showing the boundaries of the borough and the parish, and
under the heading 'maps' to a variety of maps covering areas within it.
It may be necessary to look at the Tithe map to see older names for places
in that area. If someone has a copy of Gabriel Powell's survey of the
Lordship of Gower and Kilvey in 1764, published in 2000 by the Gower
Society, it is possible the locations may be mentioned.
http://www.swansea.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=29468 at West Glamorgan
Archives contains documents relating to lands in the area around Kingsbridge
and the lower Lliw valley.
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cynbrodie" <cynbern(a)xtra.co.nz>
To: <WLS-SWANSEA(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 11:04 PM
Subject: [WLS-SWANSEA] NAME OF PLACE IN SWANSEA
I am new to this list and am doing some research into a name place
mentioned in a Will dating back to the 1860's
and cannot find it on any old maps. The names are:
Pantyrengin in the Borough of Loughor
and she has land near Rhydypolon
I would be so obliged if anyone can help at all.
Best Regards
Cynthia (New Zealand)
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