Steve,
I would strongly suggest you follow the trail backward in time (no
assumptions) to avoid a lot of wasted effort. His marker is a good
source -- it would also be nice if you could locate a death notice/obituary
in a local or denominational newspaper/periodical. Often, the
denominational periodicals mentioned the origins of the person. (Look for
one for Jane, as well.) Locating the daughters later in life (i.e., 1860+
census returns) will tell you where they were born (Wales or U.S.) and later
census returns will provide the year of emigration if they were born
elsewhere.
The BT's are not online but can be ordered through the nearest LDS FHC on
microfilm, as can the 1841 Census for Ruthin, by the way. If they were
married after July 1837, you can obtain their marriage certificate from
London (see GENUKI pages under Civil Registration). This would provide you
with the names and occupations of both of their fathers, as well as their
residences at the time of the marriage. This might be your best bet if they
were married before emigrating.
I meant to say "given the commonality of the name, looking for every Richard
WILLIAMS in
Montgomeryshire might *not* be a task for someone else" --- only you will
have the motivation to turn over every stone and follow every clue.
The christening Ray Ann provided you happens to be the only 1814 christening
listed in the LDS IGI for a Richard WILLIAM(s) in Montgomeryshire. (The
fact that the child has the surname WILLIAM is probably due to being
illegitimate -- the IGI doesn't include those details but they can be found
in the BT's.) There's another in January 1815 that would also fit. The
problem with the IGI is that it's incomplete and by no means includes all
christenings of every Richard WILLIAMS in 1814 in Montgomeryshire or in
Wales.
Regards,
Julie Preston
juliepreston(a)ameritech.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve" <stephendwilliams(a)yahoo.com>
To: "Julie Preston" <juliepreston(a)ameritech.net>;
<WLS-MONTGOMERYSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 5:42 PM
Subject: RE: Finding a record of birth for Richard Wiliams b. 1814,
Montgomeryshire
Julie,
Thanks for your reply and information.
I will try to find information on his marriage to Jane and where their
daughters were born. For now, I am making general assumptions that he was
married, and his daughters where born, in America. It is still possible
he
was in Wales in 1841. I will see what
genfair.com has (thank you for
that).
I have several sources of good information--including his gravestone--that
he was born in Montgomeryshire in 1814. And I would say it is very likely
he was in Ruthin in 1841 if he had not already emigrated.
I did not know the Bishop's transcripts were on LDS. I will see if I can
check that out.
Richard did have an only son by his second marriage. His name is John, my
great-grandfather. I will keep that as a clue to Richards father.
I received a very nice reply from Ray Ann Alt who looked at the LDS site.
She found a Christening:
Richard WILLIAM Sex: M
Event(s):
Christening: 9 Oct 1814
Machynlleth, Montgomery, Wales
Parents:
Father: Richard MORRIS
Mother: Anne WILLIAM
It's a possibility, but I have to tuck this away and keep looking. It is
interesting that the surname came from his mother's side.
So, I have some leads. Now you say, " given the commonality of the name,
looking for every Richard WILLIAMS in
Montgomeryshire might be a task for someone else". I'm not sure what that
means, or who I could get to do that. Whatever the case, If I only know a
birth year and county, it seems I'm going to have quite a hard time of it.
Thanks for all your help. In anyone runs across anything, I will be
anxious
to know.
Steve
- Longing for all censuses, records and registers, transcribed and online
for easy searching! :-\