Glynda,
What document are you quoting from? If it's an entry in the family bible,
you can also obtain the actual birth certificate directly from the
Superintendent Registrar's office (Llanfyllin & Welshpool, I believe).
Also, the LDS (Mormons) have microfilmed the Bishop's Transcripts of the
parish register for the parish of Llangynog and they include the year 1859.
You can order the microfilm from the nearest LDS family history center and
locate the christening entry and, if you're lucky, perhaps the marriage
entry for the parents, although if the bride was from another parish, you
might find their marriage entry in her home parish.
In my experience, only the parish church (i.e., Church of England, now
Church in Wales) would have a "rectory". This would be the established
church at the time.
Many nonconformists (i.e., Methodists, etc.) would still use the parish
church for events such as christenings, marriages and burials, even if they
attended 'chapel' service. It appears there wasn't a Methodist chapel in
the parish of Llangynog around 1859 -- the one listed (Penuel, Calvinistic
Methodist) shows records begin in 1875. They may have had meetings in a
local farmhouse prior to that time, though, and there may have been other
chapels in nearby parishes that people could travel to.
From the 1851 Census for Montgomeryshire (CD pub. by the Powys FHS), this is
the only entry in that area for a Cadwaladr THOMAS -- he's listed with an
's' for 'son', but it looks like he should've been listed as
'sv' for
'servant'. Note that he was born in Merionethshire (MER), parish of
Llangower.
No sign of any Grace JONES in that area -- it's very near the border with
Denbighshire and Merionethshire, so she could've been from one of those
counties.
1851 Census, Parish of Llangynog, Montgomeryshire:
HUMPHREYS, Edward h m 47 farmer of 20 acre MGY Llangynog Glynddu /f754/p10
HUMPHREYS, Grace w m 43 MER Llangower Glynddu /f754/p10
HUMPHREYS, Elizabeth d u 1 MGY Llangynog Glynddu /f754/p10
HOWELLS, William sv u 16 farmers lab. MGY Hirnant Glynddu /f754/p11
Thomas, Cadwaladr s u 16 miner MER Llangower Glynddu /f754/p11
OWENS, Robert ld u 26 stone mason MGY Pennant Glynddu /f754/p11
DAVIES, Susannah sv u 16 house servant MER Llangower Glynddu /f754/p11
BLACKWELL, John ld u 26 miner FLN Kylcain Glynddu /f754/p11
BLACKWELL, Edwin ld u 23 miner FLN Kylcain Glynddu /f754/p11
I checked the 1881 Census for Wales and could not find Cadwaladr, Grace, or
Charles THOMAS at all. Did they emigrate?
Regards,
Julie Preston
juliepreston(a)ameritech.net
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Subject: Llangynog Rectory
I am looking for any information on the rectory(s) at Llangynog
or near Llangynog 1859 and what records would be available.
Charles THOMAS, my grandfather, was
Christened 27 FEB 1859
written beside of the date he was christened is:
"Llangynog Rectory by Rev. R. Jones Oswestry Wales"
This is all the information I have. I do not know the denomination
of the church. Later my grandparents were involved
with the Methodist movement; this may be what Charles's father
could have been in at the time of his son's christening.
His parents were:
Cadwaladr and Grace THOMAS
Grace's maiden name was JONES
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you,
Glynda