Norm,
Using the 1851 Census for Montgomeryshire (CD, Powys FHS), I found a likely
candidate:
Parish of Newtown:
JONES Thomas h m 32 Carpenter MGY Welshpool Welshpool Road /f228/p41
JONES Jane w m 49 Carpenter's wife MGY Welshpool Welshpool Road /f228/p41
JONES John s u 24 Carder MGY Welshpool Welshpool Road /f228/p41
JONES David s u 21 Carder MGY Welshpool Welshpool Road /f228/p41
JONES Elizabeth d u 9 Carpenter's dau MGY Newtown Welshpool Road /f228/p41
GRIFFITHS John gs u 5m Carpenter's grandson MGY Newtown Welshpool Road
/f228/p41
Here are a couple of other candidates of approximately the right age and
born in Welshpool. There were several other possibilities but they had
definite occupations such as 'tailor', 'draper's apprentice', etc.,
that
just didn't fit his later occupation.
Parish of Welshpool:
JONES, John h m 64 farmer 70 acres + MGY Welshpool Firniew /f767/p9
JONES, Mary w m 68 MGY Welshpool Firniew /f767/p9
JONES, Thomas s w 42 MGY Welshpool Firniew /f767/p9
JONES, John s u 26 MGY Welshpool Firniew /f767/p9
LLOYD, Thomas sl m 33 MGY Welshpool Firniew /f767/p9
JONES, Mary d m 33 MGY Welshpool Firniew /f767/p9
JONES, Mary gd 12 MGY Welshpool Firniew /f767/p9
JONES, Thomas gs 8 MGY Welshpool Firniew /f767/p9
LLOYD, Charles gs 6 MGY Welshpool Firniew /f767/p9
LLOYD, Susan gd 11 MGY Berriew Firniew /f767/p9
LLOYD, Mary Ann gd 9 MGY Berriew Firniew /f767/p9
LLOYD, Thomas gs 7 MGY Berriew Firniew /f767/p9
LLOYD, Jane gd 4 MGY Berriew Firniew /f767/p9
LLOYD, John gs 1 MGY Berriew Firniew /f767/p9
JONES, David sv w 40 ag labourer MGY Llanerfyl Firniew /f767/p9
Parish of Guilsfield:
JONES, Thomas h m 34 farmer 131 acres MGY Meifod Tirnewydd /f612/p21
JONES, Mary w m 30 MGY Guilsfield Tirnewydd /f612/p21
JONES, Margaret d 5 MGY Guilsfield Tirnewydd /f612/p21
JONES, Robert s 4 MGY Meifod Tirnewydd /f612/p21
JONES, Pryce s 2 MGY Castle Tirnewydd /f612/p21
JONES, John sv u 25 farm serv MGY Welshpool Tirnewydd /f612/p21
WYNN, Joseph sv u 17 waggoner MGY Meifod Tirnewydd /f612/p21
THOMAS, Catharine sv u 19 housemaid MGY Llanervil Tirnewydd /f612/p21
Interestingly enough, living next door to the JONES' in Newtown (1st entry
above) is a MORRIS family, but no sign of Annie. (If she was 13, she
might've been out 'in service' somewhere.)
Parish of Newtown:
MORRIS Edward h m 43 Farm lab. MGY Llanllwchaiarn Welshpool Road /f228/p41
MORRIS Mary w m 43 Lab's wife MGY Mochdre Welshpool Road /f228/p41
MORRIS Martin s u 17 Shoemaker MGY Kerry Welshpool Road /f228/p41
MORRIS William s u 10 Lab's son MGY Kerry Welshpool Road /f228/p41
MORRIS David s u 4 Lab's son MGY Llanllwchaiarn Welshpool Road /f228/p41
Here's a possibility, but it's "Mary Ann" MORRIS and she's a few
years
older:
Parish of Newtown:
MORRIS John h m 57 Weaver MGY Newtown Frollick Green /f193/p22
MORRIS Elizabeth w m 56 Weaver MGY Newtown Frollick Green /f193/p22
MORRIS Elizabeth d u 19 Dressmaker MGY Newtown Frollick Green /f193/p22
MORRIS Mary Ann d u 16 Dressmaker MGY Newtown Frollick Green /f193/p22
Suggest you also post your query to the Powys list as someone else may have
access to one of the other census returns.
Regards,
Julie Preston
juliepreston(a)ameritech.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Norm Jones" <nejones(a)attglobal.net>
To: <WLS-MONTGOMERYSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 11:25 AM
Subject: Seeking info on my g-grandfather & grandfather
I am trying to locate information about my g-grandfather, John H.
Jones,
and his wife, Annie M. Morris. My g-grandfather, John H. Jones, was
born in Welshpool, Montgomery, Wales about 1827. My g-grandmother,
Annie M. Morris, was born in Newtown, Montgomery, Wales about 1838.
They had five children; Edith B. Jones, b. 1865; Frederick J. Jones, b.
1867; Arthur Hy. Jones, b. 1870; George Walter Jones, (my grandfather),
b. 12/20/1871; and Miriam A. Jones, b. 1876.
John H. Jones was a builder and a bricklayer. He lived at 27 Gungrog
Terrace during 1881 census.
George Walter Jones (my grandfather) married Elizabeth French in St
Andrew, Ashton on Ribble, Lancaster County, England on August 21,
1894. George was born in Welshpool, Montgomeryshire, Wales and he was a
master grocer and the letter carrier in Welshpool from 7/1/1895 to
3/17/1901. Elizabeth French was born in Liverpool, England on October
06, 1870. They had three children, Margaret Jones, b. April 22, 1896;
Florence Jones b. November 10, 1897; and George Alexander French Jones
b. February 24, 1905 (my father)
Can you look at an earlier census and find out anything more, please? I
would like to know John H. Jones parents and siblings and Annie M.
Morris parents and siblings.
Thank you for your help.
Norm Jones