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From: "Hafina Coppack" <hafinaclwyd(a)boyns.net>
Reply-To: WLS-MERIONETHSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 13:59:55 -0000
To: WLS-MERIONETHSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [MER] Translation of Hen ddoctor y Trawsgoed
Resent-From: WLS-MERIONETHSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com
Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 07:03:08 -0700
Here we go!
"Page 30. The Old Doctor of Trawsgoed
The few bits about this notable man can be found in the Dafydd Rolant
biography.
This is how Robert Tomos of Llidiardau writes:
'Dafydd Rolant was a great friend of Thomas Jones of Trawsgoed, the notable
old doctor who used to cure lunatics. I heard him recalling the
conversations which they had soon after he had started preaching. The topic
this time was Lunatics.
Dafydd Rolant - Thomas Jones, do you believe that religious people sometimes
lose their senses?
Thomas Jones - Oh yes they do Deio bach, as often as other people as far as
I know.
DR - Do they swear and use bad language?
TJ - They sort of swear sometimes, very similar to what parrots do.
DR - How can you tell the difference between religious and non-religious
then?
TJ - Well, I'll tell you - those religious people who come here do not swear
with authority.The poorest religious swearer imaginable was so and so
DR - Did so and so swear with authority (mentioning another acquaintance)
TJ - Yes, an authority from the bottomless pit.
(DR's biography page 41-42)
Another time when the old doctor saw him by the sheepfold busily shearing
with all his energy he said to him "Do you know what Deio, you should be at
home mending your nets or speaking to a congregation, we can do without you
at the shearing.' The old doctor was fill of wisdom and was well aware that
Deio had been called to 'speak to the nations'. He was not a member of the
same denomination as R Tomos but he was a Calvinist in thought and mind and
he used to say to Dafydd Rolant 'You contiuue preaching Calvinism, Deio
bach, the only philosophy which suits mankind after the Fall in Eden.' (page
42,43)
Old Dr Jones had an agreement with Dafydd Rolant to come and preach at
Trawsgoed once a month on working nights when the moon was full so that
everybody had a light to see their way home and ne used to go there every
month unless he was away from home. (page 29)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gwen Cunningham" <gwenny(a)snet.net>
To: <WLS-MERIONETHSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 2:34 AM
Subject: [MER] Translation of Hen ddoctor y Trawsgoed
Dear Hafina,
Here is the next bit in need of translation:
Tudalen 30. Hen ddoctor y Trawsgoed
Mae y cleydig dameidian am y gwr hynod hwn id cael yn nghofiant D. Rolants
Felhyn yr ysgrifena Robert Tomis Lhdiardan yns:
"Yroead (D. Rolant) yn gyfaill mawr i Thomas Jones or Trawsgoed, sef hen
feddyg enwog a fy ddai yn ad feru gwallg ofiaid uo synwyran Clywais ef yn
adrodd y mddyddan a fu thyngddynt unwaith yn fuan ar ol iddo ddechren
pregethu. panc yroeddynt yn ymoddyddan arno y tio hun oedd "Gwallyofiaid":
Dafydd Rolant- Aydych chur yn meddwl Thomas Jones, y eydd pobl dduurol yn
colli en Synwyrau werthiau?
Thomas Jones- O lyddant Deio bach, cynamled a phobl eraill am wn i.
D.R- A fy ddant huy yn thegu ac yn dweyd geirian drwg?
T.J.- Byddant yn thyw faith o regu wrthiau yn hir delry g fel pe luasai
parrots yn gwneyd.
D.R.- Pa fodd y gwyddoch cluoi ddrin thagor thang duwrol ac anuurol felly?
T.J.- Wel, mi ddywedafili- nid oesdim mymryn o awdurdod yn eu thegu na
thyngu pobl dduurol sydd yn dyfod cyma ythegwr salaf glywaist ti erioed a
dy
glusteau oedd hwn a hwn.
D.R.- Aoedd awdurdod yn thegu hwn a hwn? (gan enur im aroll a adwalnai)
T.J.- Oedd awdurdod or pydew dewaelod.
Cofant D.R. tudal 41-42
"Bryd arall pan welodd yr hen feddyg ef with y gorlan yn brysur gydar
cwmni
yn cneifio y defaid ai holl egni dywedodd wrtho" Wyddost ti beth, Deio,
gartref yn triosio y thwyd y dylasit ti fod gn awr neuyrte yn ei Thaenu
mewn
thyw gynulleidfai mi allasent uneuthur hebot ti yn eithaf da gydar cneifio
yma" Dyn o Synwyr maith oedd yr hen feddyg yr oedd efe yn ymuybrodol mai
efengylu yn mysg y cenhedloedd" oedd yr alwedigaeth y galuyd Deio iddi.
Nid
oedd yn aelod gydar un enwad o grefyddwyr R Tomos ond yr oedd yn Galfin o
ran ei farn, a dywedai with Dafydd Rolant " Dal di i bregethu yr a
thrawiaeth Galfinaidd, Dio bach, nidoes yr un athrawiaeth arall a suitia
ddyn yn y shape sydd arno ar ol codwm Eden" (o. Jones) Eofraut D. Rolant
tudal 42, 43
Gwnaeth yr hen feddyg, Thomas Jones or Trawsgoed gytundeb ag ef am iddo
ddyfod i bregethu iw dy ef unwaeth yn y mis ar nosweithean gwaith, pan y
lyddai y lleuad yn llawn fel y caffai pawb oleuni i fyned iw
cartrefleoead,
ac efe a fu yn myned yno bob mis oni byddai efe oddicartref tra y bu yr
hen
feddyg byw R. Tomos yn " Nghofant D. Rolant" Tudalen 29.
That's it for tonight! Thanks you again for all of your time.
Gwen et al!
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