May I jump into this discussion and ask a question or two?
My ancestor who emigrated to New York from Parc, Sarnau, Merionethshire signed his name
William En Phillips. The n was always in superscript. I have not been able to prove with
a primary record that his parents were William ap Evan (alias William Evan) son of Evan ap
Philipp (alias Evan Phillipp)and Sarah Roberts, but many signs point that way. It appears
that William ap Evan was buried under the name of William Phillips.
My question is two fold: Could my g-g grandfather's name have been William Evan
Phillips? Could he have been born William William?
Regards,
Jane
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From: Jim & Sheila
To: wls-merionethshire(a)rootsweb.com
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 9:22 AM
Subject: Re: [MER] Bala & district
I may have a clue about the T. part of you note. My maternal grandmother was known to us
as Anne Jones, but when I researched her family I found her father was Thomas Thomas
Jones. Some of the children were recorded as Jones Thomas, others as just Thomas and
others Jones. We found many examples of this type of naming and supposedly it was from the
old patronymic names.
North Americans would likely see her name as Anne T. Jones - the Thomas would be thought
of as the middle name. Welsh names being weird right? :-)
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From: Peter Evans <pgevans(a)melbpc.org.au>
To: WLS-MERIONETHSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 2:58:38 AM
Subject: Re: [MER] Bala & district
Carroll Thatcher,
>>Hi. I am looking for information on my gggrandfather Evan T. Jones. I
have a family bible of his which states he was b. in Bala, Wales on
05-10-1840. He married a KY girl (Mary Jane Black) in Glasten, MO in 1869.
He/they lived in Platte, MO, and then moved to Livingston, Macon, MO where
they had most of their children.
Family Bibles sometimes have a section for writing the Birth details. When
you say "b." do you mean born? Or is this the baptismal date?
I am not sure what the date means. If you can rephrase that in the format
DD-MMM-YYYY it should be clearer. I am not too sure what the abbreviation
"MO" means either.
Often, Welsh Americans took a middle initial on arrival in America. Is this
the case with Evan T. Jones? Any clues what "T" stands for?
Another important factor is the religion of him and his family in America.
This will help in the searching of Welsh records.
How did he migrate to America? As a child or as an adult?
Have you tried looking for him in the Welsh 1841 Census?
Regards,
Peter Evans
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