Dianne,
The vicar of Llanfawr was Robert Jones from 1683 until his death in 1708. He
couldn't have been your David's father. Possibly grandfather?
My 4xgt.uncle John Robert was at Maesafallen in the mid 1700s, his mother
was Magdalen Jones (or Magdalen John) John Robert died in1748; his wife was
Gaynor Jones, I don't know her ancestry; one of their daughters married
William Morgan of Llangower in 1762 who was a keen Methodist but I don't
know how far back the Methodist connection goes, he died in 1807.
There was also a Quaker connection at Bryn Hynod in Llangower. It is only
about 2.5 miles from Maesafallen across the hills.
It is all very confusing; good records just don't go back far enough.
Edward.
----- Original Message -----
From: <caymancic(a)aol.com>
To: <wls-merionethshire(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: [MER] Jones family
Thanks so much David.
?I know a name like Jones.? But it was a miricle I even got back as far as
I did.
I was hoping someone else would have a flash.? My David ran away from hme
around the age of 11.? Somehow joined up with family that was immig to
US.? He sold himself into 7 year servant to pay his way but was able or
was paid out when he married in 1735 to a local well to do.? They were
also orig from Wales, Davies family.? Anyway David's father had remarried
to a woman David did not like and so he left.? It was reported his dad was
a minister.? But no name was ever given.? Thinking David had cut ties
quite completely.?
Al I know it is near Bala, and means apple orchard or close to that.
thank you again
Dianne J
-----Original Message-----
From: David Rowlands <drowlan1(a)bigpond.net.au>
To: wls-merionethshire(a)rootsweb.com
Sent: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 3:48 am
Subject: Re: [MER] Jones family
Diane
Going that far back, there are probably thousands of people related to
you in Wales!
It is not clear from your posting whether you know where the farm is,
exactly. There is a 'Maesafallen' about 6 kilometres south of Llanfor
(which, itself, is just north of Bala). You can find it in Cwm Hirnant
here:
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=294500&y=331500&z=3&s...
I imagine the name is, in its complete form, something like 'Maes-yr-
afallen' which means 'Apple tree meadow'. (There will certainly be a
few places of similar names all over Wales!)
There has been some discussion of Maesafallen before (much of it
irrelevant banter, I'm afraid). See:
http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/CLWYD/2003-08/1060032811
There's a photo of it here:
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/416273
Notice it appears as 'Maesafallen' in the 1871 census:
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/MER/Llanfawr/1871RhiwaedogUch.html
but as 'Maes Y Fallen' in 1851:
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/MER/Llanfawr/1851Rhiwaedog.html
There were still some Jones there then, but, given its frequency as a
surname in the area, I would not be too confident about the closeness
of any relationship!
David
Canberra
Australia
On 31/12/2007, at 6:47, caymancic(a)aol.com wrote:
> Just putting some info out again.? Hope to find family in Wales.
>
> My David Jones was born in 1709 near Bala on the farm called Maesy
> Fallen (sp).
>
> I am trying to find out his father and mothers name and if there
> were siblings or even cousins from the area.
>
> There seems to have been a migration of Jones'/? around 1731 from
> Wales to the US.? Pennsylvania.? Quakers.?
>
> Davids father was a minister but NOT in the Quaker church.? David
> joined with the Quakers but in the US returned to episcapal.? He
> helped build a church in
> Churchtown in Chester Co, PA.
>
> Is any of this striking any cord with any Jones/? families.
>
> Thanks for reading
> Thank you for all the hard work on these lists.
>
> Dianne Jones
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