Must be raining again in Wales! Bob Hughes
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From: wls-merionethshire-bounces(a)rootsweb.com
[mailto:wls-merionethshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Angharad
Williams
Sent: 17 June 2008 14:06
To: wls-merionethshire(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [MER] WLS-MERIONETHSHIRE Digest, Vol 3, Issue 73
Just to add that John Osborne's brother Hugh was also Hugh Osborne and
they
were both brothers of my husband's father - but haven't discovered where
the
middle name came from. There was a Liberal MP by the name of Osborne
Morgan
I believe - whether his name was the inspiration I don't know
Angharad
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From: "Gwenda" <gwendawilliams115(a)btinternet.com>
To: <wls-merionethshire(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: [MER] WLS-MERIONETHSHIRE Digest, Vol 3, Issue 73
To add to the 'Aubrey' family middle name - I also have a
middle name
-
Osborne - used by most of my relations because the original person
whose
name was John Osborne Williams was recognise as a genius in the music
world
but unfortunately died at the age of 22 in 1891.
I do know of a family in B.Ffestiniog whose middle name is D'Aubrey
but
they
may not be connected to you.
Gwenda
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From: "faraway williams" <williams_research(a)yahoo.com>
To: <wls-merionethshire(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 2:33 AM
Subject: Re: [MER] WLS-MERIONETHSHIRE Digest, Vol 3, Issue 73
Hey Pam,
I have a whole pack of ancestors bearing "Aubrey" as a middle name.
We've
never been able to figure out why, although I had an imaginative
grt-uncle
who spun some good yarns about it apparently :)
Here's how it began though ... maybe it will tug someone's memory
strings!
Owen Williams, b.1810, married Elizabeth (nee ??) Williams, and moved
to
Liverpool from Wales 1838/39 1839. They had a son, also Owen, who
seems
have
died in 1838, and did _not_ have Aubrey for a middle name. Elizabeth
died
in
1845.
Owen remarried in 1847, to Ellen Woodward. They appear to have had two
daughters initially Ellen, 1850, and Elizabeth, 1852. Neither daughter
had
the Aubrey middle name.
Then, in 1853, Owen and Ellen had a son, also Owen, followed by Lewis
(1856)
and James (1864). All three boys we given "Aubrey" as a middle name.
There
was another daughter, Catherine (1862) who, like her sisters, did not
have
the middle name.
However, every child after that, male or female, in each branch, was
given
Aubrey as a middle name, right up-to my own generation.
Isn't that wierd? I haven't been able to find a single connection with
anyone called Aubrey so far, and the crazy suggestion that there was
some
connection to the Aubreys of Llantrithyd, I believe began only as an
accident of the date when it started (1856) and because my grt-uncle
put
two-and-two together and arrived at 5!
Maybe I should share a JPG of my tree with you ... perhaps you'll find
an
explanation for it from your wider knowledge of lesser-Aubrey's
:)
Richard
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From: "Buttreyp(a)aol.com" <Buttreyp(a)aol.com>
To: wls-merionethshire(a)rootsweb.com
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 1:13:45 PM
Subject: Re: [MER] WLS-MERIONETHSHIRE Digest, Vol 3, Issue 73
Re James Aubrey Williams
I don't have my notes with me, but there were Aubreys in Anglesey, and
one
at that period and just before was a hat maker - could there have
been
some
connection that lead to his apprenticeship. I am interested in Aubreys
Pam
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