Barbara,
I don't think I can be of any help at all. The information I have on the
Roberts is so sketchy and your Richard would have been thirty years after my
Sarah.
The Phillips came to that surname sometime the early half of the 1800s. Up
to that point they had named the children with the patronymic method. So in
1799 Sarah married William Evan and that was his baptism name, but in 1841
when he died he was buried under the name William Phillips in the 1841
census she was Sarah Phillips. Actually, the surname Philips is not very
common the area surrounding Bala.
II can get very confused very quickly with the Welsh naming system.
Jane
----- Original Message -----
From: "Barbara" <bphil1(a)earthlink.net>
To: <wls-merionethshire(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: [MER] Sarah Roberts - born 1766-1771
Jane,
I have Roberts' and Phillips' in the Bala Llanycil, Merioneth area, however,
I don't have my family line back as far as you. My Richard Roberts, was born
1796 in Bala and he married Ellin from Llanfawr, born 1794. My Phillips line
stars in Bala when John Phillips married Margaret Roberts around 1857/1858.
Before that my Phillips' come from Denbighshire.
Our Robertses might be connected, but, I don't think that our Phillipses
would be.
Let me know if you thing there might be a match and you want more
information.
Thank you,
Barbara Ann Phillips
bphil1(a)earthlink.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jane" <jagrwi(a)comcast.net>
To: <wls-merionethshire(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 5:11 PM
Subject: [MER] Sarah Roberts - born 1766-1771
I'm hoping that someone can help me determine the parents of the
Sarah
Roberts, born around 1766/1771. I have found two baptisms that could
work:
June -- 1766: Sarah, bapt. daughter of Robert JONES and Sarah of Amnodd
and
5 Sep 1772: Sarah is baptized to Thomas Roberts and Susanna at
Nantlleidiog.
There is a marriage in 1799 for a Sarah Roberts [of Llanderfel, Nantfrier
township] and William Evans. No parent are given. I found the baptism of
William, [28 Apr 1772], the son of Evan Philip and Catherine of Ismynydd,
Llanycil, Merioneth. He died in 1841 at Hendre Mawr, Llanycil, Merioneth
and was buried under the name of William PHILLIPS.
In the 1841 census I found:
Llanfor - Nantlleidiog, Mer, Park, Sarrah PHILLIPS, 70, 1771, Independent,
Yes (She is living with a daughter, Sarrah
PHILLIPS, age 35)
1851 census: Sarah PHILLIPS isn't found nor is the daughter.
Did the women in the mid 19th centruy ever return to their birth name? If
so could she have been buried under Sarah Roberts?
Does anyone have any ideas for me as I try to determine which Sarah is the
correct one?
Jane
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