Bond, for Morris Cadwaladr. who died Intestate Dec 1836. signed 19 April 1837.
`We, Gwen Cadwaldar, widow of Tyddyn Dovey, Llanderfel, Zachariah Price , farmer and
William Jones of Bala, sadler. etc` The estate amounted to £50.
This must be the right family but now they are using Morris as the surname
Llanderfell dist 18 A page 3
1841 Census Llandderfel (Nantfrayer) Mer.
At `Tyddyn Dyfi ` All born in County.
Gwen MORRIS 60 1781 Farmer
On the same page is Zachariah Price aged and his family, all born in county.
(Now it`s strange, but I can find Zachariah by searching, could the Morris have been
missed out on Ancestry ?)
Ellinor is now married. Mary was a witness and Cadwaladr her father has died.
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1. Re: Cadwaladr Morris, Llanderfel (Chris Edwards)
2. Re: Cadwaladr Morris, Llanderfel (Doreen Jones)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 14:09:29 -0000
From: "Chris Edwards" <wilcoxon(a)ashclose16.fsnet.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [MER] Cadwaladr Morris, Llanderfel
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Hello again.
I have found the Davies family to 1851, I think 1841 is missing for the
Llandegla area.
Cadwaladar Morris, or is it Morris Cadwaladar ?. I have found this one in
1841
1841
HO107; Piece 1430; Folio: 6; Page: 6
Llangower, Merionethshire.
Living in Hafod Ty Bach.
Cadwaladr Morris 40 ag lab Y
Elizabeth Morris 30 Y
Cathrine Morris 12 Y
Also I have found your pages linked to Genuki which has a Cadwaladr Morris
in 1851.
If there are any I have missed, then I d like to have them.
Thanks again.
Annette.
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> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 09:26:45 -0000
> From: "Chris Edwards" <wilcoxon(a)ashclose16.fsnet.co.uk>
> Subject: [MER] Cadwaladr Morris, Llanderfel
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> Thanks you for that, I tend to forget about IGI.
> Gwen was a name used in later generations.
> The couple Richard and Elinor were the grandparents of = DAVIES , EDWARD
> TEGLA ( 1880 - 1967 ), minister (Meth.) and writer ; b. 31 May 1880 at Hen
> Gi?t , Llandegla, Denb. , fourth of the six children of William and Mary
> Ann
> Davies .
>
> HO107; Piece: 2504; Folio: 15; Page: 22
> Richard Davies 38 ag lab b Llandybi ?? ( Llandegla )Denbs
> Elinor Davies 32 wife b Llanderfell, Merioneth.
> William Davies 9
> Maurice Davies 6
> Sarah Davies 4
> Winifred Davies 2
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>> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 14:05:32 -0000
>> From: "Chris Edwards" <wilcoxon(a)ashclose16.fsnet.co.uk>
>> Subject: [MER] Cadwaladr Morris, Llanderfel
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>> Hello all, I am new to the list and hoping some one can help.
>> I have this marriage.
>> Marriage in St Marys Bettws Gwerfil Goch 8 May 1840
>> Richard Davies 23yrs B Labourer Llanarmon yn Ial father William Davies--
>> Labourer
>> Elinor Morris 22yrs Sp. Servant Bettws G.G father Cadwalader
>> Morris---Farmer
>> Witnesses Emanuel Davies & Mary Morris.
>>
>> Both census 1851/61 have Elinor / Ellen being born in Llanderfel. Can
>> anyone find her baptism please.
>>
>> Thank you.
>> Annette.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 15:11:05 -0500
>> From: "Doreen Jones" <dd.jones(a)sympatico.ca>
>> Subject: Re: [MER] Cadwaladr Morris, Llanderfel
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>> Hi Annette
>>
>> I looked in the Llandderfel, Bettws GG & Llanfawr parish records and
>> didn't
>> find her. We don't have the chapel records but I found this on on the LDS
>> site
>>
>> IGI
>> Elinor Cadwalader
>> Birth: 23 Sep 1817
>> Christening: 28 Sep 1817, Bethel Rhydywernen Hananeel & Pensingrug
>> Indep.
>> Llandderfel, Llanfor & Llandrillo, Merioneth, Wales
>> Parents:
>> Father: Morris Cadwalader
>> Mother: Gwen
>>
>> You may be dealing with patronymics with this one.
>>
>> Doreen & John
>> Hamilton, Canada.
>>
>>
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> From: Ken Richards <ken.j.richards(a)sympatico.ca>
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> I checked Tegla Davies' autobiobraphy 'Gyda'r Blynyddoedd' for
further
> clues. He admits that he knew very little about his grandmother's family
> on his father's side - she died at a young age apparently. Later in
> life, Tegla Davies met with people connected with his grandmother's
> family. Two surnames are mentioned: Bond at Pentredwr (Llantysilio
> Parish), and a Price family living in Bwlchgwyn in 1896.
>
> There is a little more in the book about the Price connection through
> the parents of the Rev. Philip Price, Bwlchgwyn - Samuel and Ann Price.
> Ann Price claimed to be a close relative of Tegla Davies' father on the
> maternal side and that her people came from Llandrillo - the
> neighbouring parish to Llandderfel.
>
> Ken Richards
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>
> Chris Edwards wrote:
>
>>Thanks you for that, I tend to forget about IGI.
>>Gwen was a name used in later generations.
>>The couple Richard and Elinor were the grandparents of = DAVIES , EDWARD
>>TEGLA ( 1880 - 1967 ), minister (Meth.) and writer ; b. 31 May 1880 at Hen
>>Gi?t , Llandegla, Denb. , fourth of the six children of William and Mary
>>Ann
>>Davies .
>>
>>HO107; Piece: 2504; Folio: 15; Page: 22
>>Richard Davies 38 ag lab b Llandybi ?? ( Llandegla )Denbs
>>Elinor Davies 32 wife b Llanderfell, Merioneth.
>>William Davies 9
>>Maurice Davies 6
>>Sarah Davies 4
>>Winifred Davies 2
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> From: "Doreen Jones" <dd.jones(a)sympatico.ca>
> Subject: Re: [MER] Cadwaladr Morris, Llanderfel
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> Hi Annette
>
> I found them on the census, if you don't have it let me know and I will
> send
> it off list.
>
> Doreen & John
> Hamilton, Canada.
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From: "Doreen Jones" <dd.jones(a)sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: [MER] Cadwaladr Morris, Llanderfel
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Hi Annette
This one might be the one you are looking for
Llandderfel (Nantfrayer) Mer Tyddyn Dyfi Gwen MORRIS 60 1781 Farmer
Yes
Llandderfel (Nantfrayer) Mer Tyddyn Dyfi Cadwaladr MORRIS 30 1811
Agricultural Labourer Yes
Llandderfel (Nantfrayer) Mer Tyddyn Dyfi Hugh MORRIS 30 1811
Agricultural Labourer Yes
Llandderfel (Nantfrayer) Mer Tyddyn Dyfi Mary MORRIS 20 1821 Yes
Llandderfel (Nantfrayer) Mer Tyddyn Dyfi David MORRIS 15 1826 Yes
Doreen & John
Hamilton, Canada.
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