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I have just returned, from two weeks in Greece and was speaking to a
chap satying at the same place. His surname is Dean, mothers name Pugh.
He lived in Bury, but his mums side were from outside Harlech. He had
carried out some work on his family tree and we both had common threads
to our family trees. If he accesses this website, just to say, hope he
and his partner got home safe, Bob Hughes
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Hello Bob,
Saw your message about your encounter. If you are keeping in touch with
him, and you learn more, then I can tell you that I have Pughs in Llanenddwyn
Parish, Duffryn Ardudwy. They lived at Bron y Foel, and were farmers, but may
well have been drovers as well.
Ann Pugh was an only daughter amongst brothers, and she married John Wynne.
The other surname connected to the Pughs here is Pritchard. The most common
christian name was Hugh.
Regards,
Maureen
Rhondda
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I have just returned from a visit to North Wales and was lucky enough to find my gg grandfathers grave( Griffith Griffiths) and my ggg grandparents(David and Lowry Griffiths).On Griffith Griffiths death certificate in 1901 the informant was G Humphreys(son in law).Is there anyone with knowledge of Llanelltyd history who would know of this family?
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Gary,
I am researching Phillips and Roberts in the Bala and Llanycil area. I also
have some Roberts in Llanfawr.
I am happy to share what I have.
My Grandfather Llewelyn Pierce Phillips was born 1892 in Bala. His father
John William Phillips was born 1859 in Bala. Johns parents: Father,John
Pryce Phillips born 1827/1828 Tregeiriog. Mother, Margaret Roberts born 1827
Llanycil. Margarets parents: Father, Richard Roberts born 1796 Bala, Mother,
Ellin Roberts (no knownn maiden name) born1794 Llanfawr.
I have some other children/siblings conected to these folk. Let me know if
you want/need more.
Thank you,
Barbara Ann Phillips
bphil1(a)earthlink.net
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From: "Gary L. Roberts" <glroberts(a)verizon.net>
To: <wls-merionethshire(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 8:46 AM
Subject: Re: [MER] FW: Frongoch and Bala area
> We had a wonderful time in Wales and found a lot of Roberts' buried in a
> variety of cemeteries. We spent a lot of the
> time traveling throughout North Wales and going to castles and went to the
> National Library of Wales. What a wonderful
> place. We did not really search for specific names or people since our
> family left there is 1698 to come to America.
>
> I will be posting my pictures and trip journal on my website in the near
> future.
>
> Gary
>
> "Genealogy is not only the search for one's family but the sharing of
> information with others"
> Researching: ROBERTS, SHALES, WURST, ENGLISH, FRYBERGER, DUTTINGER and
> Associated Families
> Visit my website at: http://www.garys-genealogy.com
> Living in Texas but always from Pennsylvania
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wls-merionethshire-bounces(a)rootsweb.com
> [mailto:wls-merionethshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Janet Hazell
> Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 1:36 AM
> To: wls-merionethshire(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: Re: [MER] FW: Frongoch and Bala area
>
> Gary
>
> I know there are vast numbers of Roberts up there but if you find anything
> significant about any Roberts family in the area, could you please publish
> it on this list? I was up there a few months ago, and still haven't been
> able to find where my lot are buried. My GG Grandfather, Evan Roberts,
> (born Llanfor in 1815) died in1866 at Llandderfel, and it was a
> Cadwalader
> Roberts (no relation, as far as I know) who declared the death, and I'm
> still searching for his proven parentage and siblings. I'd be most
> grateful
>
> for any extra crumbs of information!
>
> Janet (nee Roberts)
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gary L. Roberts" <glroberts(a)verizon.net>
> To: <WLS-MERIONETHSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 7:46 PM
> Subject: [MER] FW: Frongoch and Bala area
>
>
>>I am leaving for Bala and Frongoch tomorrow morning spending 2 weeks
>> researching the Roberts/
>> Cadwalader line. If I found any references to your query, I will get them
>> and let you know when
>> I return.
>>
>> Gary
>>
>>
>
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Hi Paul,
I don't know if this is of any help to you but my Grandfather's sister -
Margaret Jones (known as Madge ) born about 1885, married a William Jones
of Bryn Ysguboriau and they had 7 children - John Sylvanus, Jennie, Maggie
Catherine, Eluned, May, Dora and Nansi.
Regards
Peter
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To: <wls-merionethshire(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 8:03 AM
Subject: WLS-MERIONETHSHIRE Digest, Vol 2, Issue 113
>
>
> Today's Topics:
>
> 1. Brynysguboriau, Trawsfynydd. (Paul Clough)
> 2. Brynysguboriau, Trawsfynydd. (Paul Clough)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 23:43:21 +0100
> From: "Paul Clough" <paul(a)cloughie.com>
> Subject: [MER] Brynysguboriau, Trawsfynydd.
> To: <wls-merionethshire(a)rootsweb.com>
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> Hi all,
>
> I'm just wondering if anyone knows anything about this farm. Basically, in
> the pile the pile of photos that started me off doing this there are some
> snaps of my mum and her brother on holiday there in the 50's with an
"Uncle
> Syd" and "John". Neither of them remember how they are related, and what
I'm
> hoping is that they were related to my Great Grandfather whose origins
> remain shrouded mystery.
>
> I'd love to hear from anyone who knows of anyone who lives there. There
was
> an intruiging email in the archives from one Christine Pinnick
> "I was suprised to see Brynysguboriau mentioned as I have connections to
> Telu Brynysguboriau. Trawsfynydd. John Jones the brother of my gt, gt,
> grandfather was living there in the 1870's but it was owned by the family
> for many years before that. even today I have relatives that farm there
> now."
> Sadly she must have changed her email address. Anyway, for anyone who's
> interested here's the photos:
> Uncle Syd
>
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd315/carbuncle69/BrynYsGuboriau/Uncle...
> John
>
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd315/carbuncle69/BrynYsGuboriau/JohnB...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Paul.
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 23:43:28 +0100
> From: "Paul Clough" <paul(a)cloughie.com>
> Subject: [MER] Brynysguboriau, Trawsfynydd.
> To: <wls-merionethshire(a)rootsweb.com>
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>
> Hi all,
>
> I'm just wondering if anyone knows anything about this farm. Basically, in
> the pile the pile of photos that started me off doing this there are some
> snaps of my mum and her brother on holiday there in the 50's with an
"Uncle
> Syd" and "John". Neither of them remember how they are related, and what
I'm
> hoping is that they were related to my Great Grandfather whose origins
> remain shrouded mystery.
>
> I'd love to hear from anyone who knows of anyone who lives there. There
was
> an intruiging email in the archives from one Christine Pinnick
> "I was suprised to see Brynysguboriau mentioned as I have connections to
> Telu Brynysguboriau. Trawsfynydd. John Jones the brother of my gt, gt,
> grandfather was living there in the 1870's but it was owned by the family
> for many years before that. even today I have relatives that farm there
> now."
> Sadly she must have changed her email address. Anyway, for anyone who's
> interested here's the photos:
> Uncle Syd
>
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd315/carbuncle69/BrynYsGuboriau/Uncle...
> John
>
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd315/carbuncle69/BrynYsGuboriau/JohnB...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Paul.
>
>
>
>
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Dear Paul,
I have connections to Brynysguboriau, Trawsfynydd, but further back. So if you find your family were there in around 1800, do get in touch.
Ian Thompson
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Thanks so much for your comments. That's what I was wondering about. I
know that Clerk or Clark was a term meaning priest back in Chaucer's
day, but then when I see the specific terms Rector, Curate, Officiating
Minister, etc. (but not Clerk) being used as descriptors in some of the
compiled birth records of the post-1813 years for Mallwyd, it leads me
to believe the meaning of Clerk had changed by then. (?) Perhaps Clerk
by the 1800s, as written in a parish book, meant the person who kept the
records for the church (i.e. the parish book notations)? This could
easily be checked if someone could tell me who the priest/minister of
Mallwyd parish was circa 1797-1806 when my ancestor David Humphreys was
"Clerk." Unfortunately I cannot find a list of Mallwyd clergy online.
But I did find this interesting site:
http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks3.html#Vicar
--Michelle
I Thompson wrote:
> The reason I said "no" initially was that "clerk" usually referred at this date to the priest rather than a functionary within the parish which would be referred to as sexton (clochydd) or churchwarden (less often used).
>
>
Can I say thank you to Maggi for answering this and my last e-mail that I sent to this list, but if anyone else can also help I will be very grateful.
Thank you Maggi
Rhiannon
Dear Jane,
Here is my translation.
Barry
When he departed, Mr. Thomas Ellis came in his place, and he chose Mr.
Edward Davies, Brynbanon, as Elder (of the Chapel) at the beginning of 1867.
Mr. Edward Davies was a man with a keen mind and an exceptionally clear
comprehension of the meaning of God in his words. Rarely would you get a
clearer explanation of the Scriptures than from him. Mr Edward Davies worked
for some 5 years with Ellis Davies, and for nearly 20 years with John Jones.
The four were Elders when the present chapel was built in 1868. Mr. Ellis
Davies died in 1872 and John Jones in 1885 and Mr. Edward Davies died in
1896 having been a teacher for 40 years and an Elder for 30 years. The
present chapel is nearby the chapel built in 1822 but is more substantial
and better looking (than the earlier building.)
Hello List,
I've come to pick your brains again if you don't mind, my ancestors were living at 65 Glanygors, Llandanwg, a Humphrey Williams and his wife Jannett along with their family and his daughter with her husband Robert Williams are also living there.
Is this place familiar to anybody ? my ancestor was a farmer and I am wondering if this is a farm, his farm, I am sorry but my knowledge of Merionethshire is not very good at all.
Thank you for what ever help anyone can give me.
Kind Regards
Rhiannon
I would so appreciate it if someone could translate the following for me:
Ar ei ymadawiad ef o Gynlas, daeth Mr. Thomas Ellis yno yn ei le, a dewiswyd ef a Mr. Edward Davies, Brynbanon, yn flaenoriaid yn nechreu 1867. Yr oedd Mr. Edward Davies yn ddyn o feddwl treiddgar, a dirnadaeth hynod o glir ganddo o feddwl Duw yn ei air. Anamal y gellid cael gwell esboniwr ar yr Ysgrythyr nag ef. Y
Bu ef a Mr. Edward Davies yn cydweithio am tua 5 mlynedd gydag Ellis Davies, ac â John Jones am agos i ugain mlynedd. Yr oedd y pedwar yn flaenoriaid pan adeiladwyd y capel presenol yn 1868. Bu Mr. Ellis Davies farw yn 1872, a John Jones yn 1885, a bu Mr. Edward Davies farw yn 1896, ar ol bod yn athraw am 40 mlynedd ac yn flaenor am 30 mlynedd. Y mae y capel presenol gerllaw y capel a wnaed yn 1822, ond yn llawer helaethach a harddach yr olwg arno.
I found it on the website http://www.rootsweb.com/~wlsmer2/methdwyrain/cefnddwysarn.html
I wonder if this has something to do with an ancestor of mine who lived on Brynbanon.
Jane
Colorado
It's possible to have another occupation because a Parish clerk, as far as
I am aware, can also be a part-time, unpaid job. A friend of mine was a
Parish clerk for a number of years, and it certainly wasn't a full-time
occupation. She had another job as well. Perhaps this might explain the
query?
Janet
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From: "I Thompson" <joscyn(a)hotmail.com>
To: <wls-merionethshire-l(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: [MER] Could a "Clerk" also be a "joiner"?
I think the most obvious answer is "no" but I might be willing to be
surprised!
Ian
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I am leaving for Bala and Frongoch tomorrow morning spending 2 weeks
researching the Roberts/
Cadwalader line. If I found any references to your query, I will get them
and let you know when
I return.
Gary
"Genealogy is not only the search for one's family but the sharing of
information with others"
Researching: ROBERTS, SHALES, WURST, ENGLISH, FRYBERGER, DUTTINGER and
Associated Families
Visit my website at: http://www.garys-genealogy.com
Living in Texas but always from Pennsylvania
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Subject: [MER] Frongoch and Bala area
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Some of my ancestors were from the Bala area. It was way back in the late
1600's. Robert Owen was a Quaker and left his home at Frongoch and went to
Pennsylvania. It would be greatly appreciated if anyone has any sort of
information on Frongoch, Coed y Foel Isaf (and Uchaf), Rhiwlas, Llanfor, and
Llandderfel. I'm looking for things like maps or other things that might be
revelent to Robert Owen and his ancestors. Modern maps are good too. I
sort of want to have a good description of Frongoch. Just please help me
somehow.
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