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Lynn
Dont give up. I was exactly in the same position as you are a few months
ago. But people like AlwynapHuw and Dafydd Hays soon put me on the right
track. Dont be afraid to contact them with your queries. They are very
helpful and there are many others on the Merioneth Links.I find the
WLS-MERIONETHSHIRE Mailing List fascinating and I have learnt a great deal
reading them.
You may also be interested in the Archive CD Books Ltd - URL:
http://www.archivecdbooks.org.
This provides a variety of interesting CD Books.
Regards
Gruff Rowlands.
----- Original Message -----
From: <WaterDwellers22(a)aol.com>
To: <WLS-MERIONETHSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 3:09 PM
Subject: [MER] Information about North Wales..or lack of it!
> I have to add my two cents into this. I live in the United States and have
> been researching my ancestors from North Wales now for about 4 years. I
must
> admit that the lack of good genealogy web sites combined with information
on
> discs about these Counties in North Wales is hard to come by. Right now I
> find my search at a standstill, but then again with my names....THOMAS,
> ROBERTS, HUGHES, WILLIAMS, ROWLANDS and PRYDDERCH.....I am buried deep
within
> the haystack!
> I know I would gladly purchase materials relating to data regarding North
> Wales.
> Lynn
> New York, USA
>
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> > Hello
I am new to the list so am sending this to both Merionethshire and
Denbighshire lists. Sorry if you get it twice!
Wonder if anyone is researching the same family as I am?
David JENKINS,b. c.1806, married Mary JONES, had many children including:
> > > > > David JENKINS b. 1830 in Corwen,
> > > > > Hugh JENKINS b. 1836 in Corwen,
> > > > William JENKINS b. 1836 in Corwen
> > > > Cadwaladr JENKINS b. 1839 in Corwen
> > > > Job JENKINS b. 1841 in Corwen
> > > > > John JENKINS b. 1845 Gwyddelwern, Corwen, married Margaret ROBERTS
> > 1869
> > > in
> > > > Bala, children:
> > > > > Catherine JENKINS born 1870 Bala
> > > > > John Robert JENKINS b. Bala 1871 married Bessie GREENWOOD in 1906
> > > > > David JENKINS b. 1879 Oswestry
> > > > > Hugh JENKINS b. 1888 Mongomery Newtown
> > > > > Hugh had a son , Iolo, who emigrated to New Zealand in the 1950's
> > > > > Both John and John Robert JENKINS died in Llanrwst 1890 &1927
> > > > > Would love to hear from anyone with any connections however
remote!
> as
> > I
> > > > seem to have reached a brick wall on this branch of my family
> > > > > Wendy (nee Jenkins) from Nottingham
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ==== CLWYD Mailing List ====
> > > > > There is an excellent "tutorial" on Civil Registration at :
> > > > > http://home.clara.net/dixons/Certificates/indexbd.htm
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Greetings from a new lister.
My 2x great-grandmother was Jane RICHARD(S), chr 2 Aug 1807, Tywyn / Towyn, d/o
Edward & Margaret RICHARDS. The Wesleyan baptism, in Manchester, of Jane's first
daughter gives Jane's parents as "Edward RICHARDS, gardener, and Margaret, his
wife".
I suspect this to be their marriage: Edward RICHARD(S) m Margaret THOMAS, 4 Jul
1789, Tywyn.
>From Tywyn BTs, there were these baptisms of their other children, although if
the above marriage is correct, there may well have been earlier children:
Hannah RICHARD chr 21 Dec 1800; bur 20 Mar 1801
Mary RICHARD chr 27 June 1802
Elizabeth RICHARD chr 7 Aug 1803
The Tywyn BTs have the burial for an Edward RICHARDS, bur 9 Nov 1831, and I think
this may be my chap. Being inexperienced in dealing with patronymics, I'm
floundering a bit with researching this family, and this is as far as I've managed
to get with them. Forlorn hope, but is anybody else researching this family?
Blanche Charles
Wellington
New Zealand
I have submitted the full obituaries on the following individuals to the Wales-Gen-L Mailing List. I have summarized below the details of each submittal. If anyone is interested in one of these and wishes to receive a copy off-list, please send your e-mail address.
1. William J. WILLIAMS, Died 11 Jul 1900, Wilkes-Barre, PA, USA: Age 53 years; born at Penrhydeudraeth, Merionthshire, Wales; known in his native village as William yr her Siop; emigrated to the U.S. 17 years before; survived by his wife and children: John, Richard, Mrs. D.C. Jones, and Thomas; and one sister in Wales.
2. John O. JONES, Died 19 Jul 1900, Wilkes-Barre, PA, USA: Age 29 years; son of Owen R. Jones of Nicholson street, late of Angelsea, Wales; was an expert bricklayer and prominent in the trade in New York City; in February went to Denver, Colorado for his health and returned a month ago.
3. William B. SMITH, Died 30 Jul 1900, Pittston, PA, USA: born in Blaenavon, Monmouthshire, South Wales in August, 1841; emigrated to the U.S. in 1868; survived by a wife and six children: Charles, William, Olive, Edward, Eugene, Emily.
Nancy Cook
Pasadena, MD, USA
>In a message dated 04/09/2002 11:21:55 GMT Daylight Time,
>gruffydd(a)growlands90.freeserve.co.uk writes:
>
>
>> I am suprised that the CD Archives are reluctant to combine say three North
>> Wales counties on account of cost and the small numbers in these
>> counties.There is probably a potential market for this particularly amongst
>> overseas
>> clients who often have roots in more than one county.I think that our
>> overseas friends would find this more economical in cost including postage
>> charges and would welcome the idea.
>>
>
In message <200209041504.g84F4Sq07579(a)pml.rootsweb.com>,
AlwynapHuw(a)aol.com writes
>I made this very suggestion to Rod Neep of Archive CD books a few days ago
>(except I went further and suggested adding Denbighshire)
>
>This is the reply I had:
>~~~~~~~
>This is frequently asked question Alwyn.
>That could be done, but at four times the price. It is the *cost* of
>buying films, digitising, and work that one is paying for, not the
>pieces of plastic, which are very cheap.
>
>~~~~~~~~
>
>I am not sure about the economics of Archive CD books or the suppliers of
>their census source, but I as the population of the whole of North Wales in
>1861 (including Fflint and Montgomery) is less than that of Glamorgan in the
>same period, I am not sure how the material and labour costs for covering all
>North Wales would be more expensive than the cost of doing Glamorgan,
>Lancashire or Yorkshire.
(But I didn't say that). It probably wouldn't be.
But please accept that I could be in a catch 22 position here.
Option 1.
I produce those (small) individual Welsh county census CDs at GBP 20.00
or
Option 2.
I produce a "compendium" set of several counties.
Whichever option I chose, the initial costs are identical:
a. cost of films
b. cost of digitising
c. cost of compiling and programming
The production costs (of the CDs) will also be the same.
(Postage is free anyway, so that doesn't enter into it).
But then the "catch 22" creeps in.
1. If I produce option 1 then some folks want option 2.
2. If I produce option 2, then some folks only want one county
and have it cheaper. Option 1.
3. If I produce option 2, then I will have included the wrong
combination of counties for everyone.
So the easiest way.... is to produce CD sets for separate counties, and
not for a region.
The situation also applies to large counties, but in reverse!
"Why don't you split a county... I only want Cardiff, and not the rest
of the county of Glamorgan." (I might add, that I might do that when the
times comes to announce Glamorgan).
Regards
Rod Neep
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In a message dated 04/09/2002 11:21:55 GMT Daylight Time,
gruffydd(a)growlands90.freeserve.co.uk writes:
> I am suprised that the CD Archives are reluctant to combine say three North
> Wales counties on account of cost and the small numbers in these
> counties.There is probably a potential market for this particularly amongst
> overseas
> clients who often have roots in more than one county.I think that our
> overseas friends would find this more economical in cost including postage
> charges and would welcome the idea.
>
I made this very suggestion to Rod Neep of Archive CD books a few days ago
(except I went further and suggested adding Denbighshire)
This is the reply I had:
~~~~~~~
This is frequently asked question Alwyn.
That could be done, but at four times the price. It is the *cost* of
buying films, digitising, and work that one is paying for, not the
pieces of plastic, which are very cheap.
~~~~~~~~
I am not sure about the economics of Archive CD books or the suppliers of
their census source, but I as the population of the whole of North Wales in
1861 (including Fflint and Montgomery) is less than that of Glamorgan in the
same period, I am not sure how the material and labour costs for covering all
North Wales would be more expensive than the cost of doing Glamorgan,
Lancashire or Yorkshire.
If you want to raise the matter directly with Rod his e-mail is <A HREF="mailto:rod.neep@archivecdbooks.org">
rod.neep(a)archivecdbooks.org</A>
Alternatively you might like to raise the subject on the WLS-Caernarfonshire
list, of which Rod is a member.
all the best
Alwyn
I have to add my two cents into this. I live in the United States and have
been researching my ancestors from North Wales now for about 4 years. I must
admit that the lack of good genealogy web sites combined with information on
discs about these Counties in North Wales is hard to come by. Right now I
find my search at a standstill, but then again with my names....THOMAS,
ROBERTS, HUGHES, WILLIAMS, ROWLANDS and PRYDDERCH.....I am buried deep within
the haystack!
I know I would gladly purchase materials relating to data regarding North
Wales.
Lynn
New York, USA
A few general bits of information for list members.
1. Remember that the Gwynedd and Clwyd Family History fair is being held in
the North Wales Conference Centre in Llandudno next Saturday. Very well worth
attending if you are in travelling distance to Llandudno (Or better still, if
you're not in travelling distance, a worthwhile part of a weekend break in
one of the finest resorts in Wales)
2. If any of you have been using the old newspapers and periodicals in The
University Library in Bangor for research, there has been some structural
damage to the part of the library that contains them and it cannot be
accessed for some weeks.
All the other services at the library, e.g. census films, archives, local
interest books are unaffected. It is just the newspapers and periodicals that
cannot be got at.
3. I have a lot of outstanding lookup requests for list members. Now that the
children are back in school, I will try to catch up with my backlog this
week, sorry to all those who have been kept waiting.
All the best
Alwyn
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I have submitted the full obituaries on the following individuals to the Wales-Gen-L Mailing List. I have summarized below the details of each submittal. If anyone is interested in one of these and wishes to receive a copy off-list, please send your e-mail address.
1. Mrs. Hannah THOMAS, Died 30 Jun 1900, Parsons, PA, USA: born at Llandebie, Carmarthenshire, Wales, in 1820; in 1842 married Thomas Thomas who died in 1869 at Mountain Ash, Wales; emigrated to U.S. from Mountain Ash, Wales, in 1870; survived by children - William N. Thomas of Wilkes-Barre; Mrs. D.H. Smith of Parsons; Thomas R. Thomas of Pittston; Reese R. Thomas of Parsons; and John S. Thomas of Peckville; also 43 grandchildren and 34 great-grandchildren.
2. Mrs. Mary REESE, Died 7 Jul 1900, Georgetown, PA, USA: aged 62 years; born in Aberdare, South Wales; wife of James Reese, emigrated to U.S. 14 year before; survived by the following children: Henry, Mrs. Margaret Owens, Evan, Mrs. Mary Morgans and Miss Dianna Reese.
3. John H. JONES, Died 12 Jul 1900, Hanover Township, PA, USA: aged 38 years; burned by an explosion of gas in Maxwell, No. 20, colliery at Ashley at 1 p.m. on Monday last [could be 02 Jul 1900 or 09 Jul 1900], born in Carnarvon, North Wales; emigrated to U.S. when 20 years old; survived by his wife and five small children: Katie, aged 12; Nellie, 10; John, 7; George, 6; and Hugh, 1 year and 10 months; his parents, who reside in the old country; and one sister, Mrs. John Bowden.
Nancy Cook
Pasadena, MD, USA