Dear Kay,
There were probably hundreds of Meuric ap Llewellyns in and around 1400. It would be
essential to know a little more. The database Betty mentions is great but is based on a
slightly flawed book (JE Griffiths "Pedigrees...").
Probably the most reliable source is PC Bartrum's "Welsh Genealogies" which
is over about 20 volumes. There is, however, at least a volume (in separate issues) of
corrigenda, meaning that the originals need to be cross-referenced! An online version is
hoped to come out this year or next(?)
To be certain of your connections, you should really be giving a little more background.
In the sea of patronymy, no one can be identified by name alone. Location, connections
and biographical information (where possible - not possible for everyone, of course) are
required.
The question of "royalty" is interesting - there wasn't the same social
structure in (Welsh, pre-1283) mediaeval Wales as in England. There was a royal or ruling
class, a free class and a bonded class but that's about it, simply. I wondered how
you know he wasn't "royal" if you don't know anything about him!
Yours,
Ian
From: wls-gwynedd-request(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: WLS-GWYNEDD Digest, Vol 4, Issue 36
To: wls-gwynedd(a)rootsweb.com
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 01:01:49 -0600
Today's Topics:
1. Meuric ap Llywellyn (Betty A Pace)
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Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 17:38:35 -0400
From: Betty A Pace <bapace2(a)juno.com>
Subject: [GWYNEDD] Meuric ap Llywellyn
To: kayhoover(a)mac.com
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GO to the database WILLPERF on
www.rootsweb.com, world connect.
You may have to search for Ap or for Llywellyn
Betty Pace
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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 16:11:58 -0700
From: Kay Hoover <kayhoover(a)mac.com>
Subject: [GWYNEDD] Meuric ap Llywellyn
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Hi Listers, I'm new to the list and fairly new to my Welsh ancestry.
I pick up Meuric ap Llywellyn (hope I spelled that right) in the late
1400s. I have names of his ancestors but since they are not "royalty"
I have not been able to find information on them. Can anyone
recommend books where I can find these people? I have not had any
luck getting books on the Welsh - even through my library. If anyone
needs more names, I can furnish them.
Thanks
Kay in CA
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