LDS does have the book but they won't loan it
k
On Apr 23, 2009, at 1:26 PM, Betty A Pace wrote:
Ian
Do you know where PC Bartrum's "Welsh Genealogies" might go on
line? I
think the LDS filmed Bartrum years ago.
Betty Pace
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Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 08:09:06 +0000
From: I Thompson <joscyn(a)hotmail.com>
Subject: [GWYNEDD] Meuric ap Llewellyn
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Dear Kay,
There were probably hundreds of Meuric ap Llewellyns in and around
1400.
It would be essential to know a little more. The database Betty
mentions
is great but is based on a slightly flawed book (JE Griffiths
"Pedigrees...").
Probably the most reliable source is PC Bartrum's "Welsh Genealogies"
which is over about 20 volumes. There is, however, at least a
volume (in
separate issues) of corrigenda, meaning that the originals need to be
cross-referenced! An online version is hoped to come out this year or
next(?)
To be certain of your connections, you should really be giving a
little
more background. In the sea of patronymy, no one can be identified by
name alone. Location, connections and biographical information (where
possible - not possible for everyone, of course) are required.
The question of "royalty" is interesting - there wasn't the same
social
structure in (Welsh, pre-1283) mediaeval Wales as in England. There
was
a royal or ruling class, a free class and a bonded class but that's
about
it, simply. I wondered how you know he wasn't "royal" if you don't
know
anything about him!
Yours,
Ian
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> Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 17:38:35 -0400
> From: Betty A Pace <bapace2(a)juno.com>
> Subject: [GWYNEDD] Meuric ap Llywellyn
> To: kayhoover(a)mac.com
> Cc: WLS-GWYNEDD(a)rootsweb.com
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> GO to the database WILLPERF on
www.rootsweb.com, world connect.
>
> You may have to search for Ap or for Llywellyn
>
> Betty Pace
>
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