Hi Ian, many thanks for your reply. It was with the help of Reg.Davies
that I found John Thomas's career at sea. His register ticket gives his
date and place of birth and place of residence whilst on land.
In 1865 he is "married" and their first child is born at sea on route to
Shanghai from Australia (apparently) I have a copy of the child's baptism
in Shanghai. He is named as John Marion Thomas after the ship Marion on
which he was born. 1867 the second child is born en route from New York to
Liverpool. This one named Thomas Malta Neigwl Thomas - the Malta being
after the ship on which he was born, again I have a copy of the announcement
of his birth. I am told that Neigwl means hells mouth and is a bay
not far from Pwllheli. There is now a hotel named Neigwl nearby. The
third son was born in Liverpool, I have a copy of his birth certificate.
4th son also born Liverpool 1873. 5th son probably born Liverpool,1869,
died 1870,
6th son born c1870, died 1872 liverpool.
There is a family grave in Anfield cemetery and some of the information
has been gained from the MIs and the burial notes of all the people in the
grave.
The 1871 census shows the family in Liverpool, John Thomas being a
licensed vitualler. 1881 he is still in Liverpool as a master mariner with his
wife and two sons. John Thomas died 1888 in Liverpool.
His wife was Elizabeth Anthony Powell, but no marriage found. There is an
entry on free bmd in 1869 but they are not married to each other so
obviously a different couple. They may have married at sea or in Australia,
perhaps we will never know.
I have not found him on any of the other censuses, perhaps he was at sea
somewhere else in the world as he was a cabin boy in 1830 and went on to
become a master mariner.
Thanks again
Ann
There are a number of parish and chapel registers on the IGI
(familysearch.org.uk - chose the "old format"). Batch numbers for parishes to
enter in
the bottom box on the search page can be found online by googling "IGI
batch numbers". The search page is reasonably easy to get to grips with.
Beware that coverage is not comprehensive and that many parishes are not
included at all.
Born in Pwllheli could mean an awful lot of places - I have found that
people might have used Pwllheli to mean anywhere from the tip of the Lleyn
peninsula to well beyond Pwllheli itself! Unfortunately John Thomas is a
common name as well (I have at least 4 in various parts of my research). Do
you have anything else to pin him down? For example, have you found him in
every census? Are there other family members? A marriage? Father? All
these things can help to ensure you have the "right" John Thomas.
Reg Davies website Welshmariners is worth looking at (and remember not to
focus overmuch on Pwllheli to hte exclusion of all other possibilities!
Reg has combined mates and masters certificates with memorial inscriptions,
census and other information
Yours,
Ian
Would SKS please tell me if there are any parish records available
online
or for purchase for Pwllheli?
I am looking for the baptism of John THOMAS born on 30th July 1820.
By 1829 he was a cabin boy at sea and gave his place and date of birth
as
above. Whilst he was on land, he said he lived in Bank St. Bangor
Any information much appreciated
Many thanks
Ann
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