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Hi Betty, This has npothing to do with this
E-mail. I just didn't know where to rurn,so I desided
to try you. this is My delenma. In My Family Tree
is a Name Marry Mostyn, she was Born Sept. 26, 1684.
What I need to know is Who is Mary Mostyn Parents
Names. I thought maybe you could Help Me with the
Name, scense you had an E-mail Gwynedd or Flintshire
Co's in Wales. I notisted in a map of Flintshire Co.
that there is town Named Mostyn I thought Maybe
She came. She came to America in 1710.
> [Original Message]
> From: Betty A. Pace <bapace2(a)juno.com>
> To: <WLS-GWYNEDD-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Date: 3/21/04 8:01:16 AM
> Subject: [GWYNEDD] St. Cynbryd's, Llanddulas, Denbighshire
>
> Whre can I get the mailing address of St. Cynbryd's, Llanddulas,
> Denbighshire?
> I have tried Genuki and can't locate it.
>
> I am also interested in locating batch numbers of the IGI for this
> parish.
>
> Betty Pace
>
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Hello Listers,
I have a John Richard Williams who married Mary Bell Lloyd in 1918. His
address at that time was Tan yt Hall, Llanerchymedd, Anglesey and his father
is named as Richard, a farmer and butcher, deceased.
I have found a possible match on the 1881 census where John Richard is 1
year old. He was 37 at the time of his marriage.
Is there anyone else researching this family?
He was in the Great War and states his occupation as Sapper R.E. and Railway
Clerk, in brackets.
Yours Aye
Jane McIntosh
Toowoomba, Queensland.
I realise this can be a seriously tall order.
My ancestor John Parry, who lived at Beddau Mawr from 1871-1901 gives his parish of birth quite consistently as Tregaean, and in 1871 his father, also called John, lived with him. The ages give in 1871 would suggest that the younger John was born in 1819, while the older one was born in 1792, and family legend tells me that John and his family used to walk from Beddau Mawr to Rhosmeirch chapel.
I have searched the parish register for Tregaean and drawn a blank, and he was not christened at Rhosmeirch Independent chapel either (which is in the parish of Llangefni).
If someone comes across John's christening in 1819, the son of another John, in any of the parishes adjoining Tregaean, I would be very grateful.
The younger John married an Ellen, said to have been born in Llanfihangel Tre'r Beirdd in 1821, but not having a surname makes this an even tougher challenge.
Hi,
Enumeration District No. 8 of the 1891 census for the Parish of Llanbeblig has now been completed, and can be found in the Census Section at:
http://www.rootsweb.com/~wlsccaer/
Regards,
Keith.
Whre can I get the mailing address of St. Cynbryd's, Llanddulas,
Denbighshire?
I have tried Genuki and can't locate it.
I am also interested in locating batch numbers of the IGI for this
parish.
Betty Pace
Some of these webpages might not yet be accessible so you might have to
try several times.
They are created by
volunteers, so if one that interests you isn't up yet, please check
again in a few days or next week.
The Merionethshire website can be found at:
http://www.rootsweb.com/~wlsmer2/
Hi Ian
I had a look for your Jones family on Ancestry.co.uk,they are in Victoria St,Bangor in 1871 and unfortunately William has passed on already.
Jane Jones Hd W 62 Nurse Anglesey Llandegfan
Griffith do Son U 19 Labourer Caenarvonshire Bangor
David do Bdr M 34 do do
Elizabeth do do M 27 Denbighshire
I can e-mail the image to you if you would like to e-mail me off list. mikedrob(a)btinternet.com
regards
Mike Roberts
Jane Jones Hd W 62 Nurse Anglesey Llandegfan
Griffith do Son U 19 Labourer Caenarvonshire Bangor
David do Bdr M 34 do do
Elizabeth do do M 27 Denbighshire
I think I saw that the David was not born in Bngor but in Denbighshire and
Elizabeth wa sborn in Anglesey...pls corrct me if I am wrong.
SUE
This is forwarded in the hope it will interest someone. I don't have
further informtion.
Betty Pace
Date:Fri, 19 Mar 2004 11:08:14 -0600
From:"Peter Monks" <arethusa(a)shaw.ca>
To:Mariners-L@rootsweb.com
Subject:[Mar] The Great Storm of 1839
Greetings,
I was given a small but interesting booklet The Great Storm of 1839, by
Eddie Little ISBN
0 9536743 4 7, some 39 pages.
Monday 7 January 1839.
In Dublin, Captain Townley of the steamship AVON prepared to set off
for Liverpool. Townley and his crew would spend the next thirty hours
running for their lives before the gale to reach the safety of Beaumaris.
It swept into the North Channel sinking the revenue cruiser DILIGENCE
with the loss of all hands. In the Irish Sea it destroyed the ANDREW
NUGENT with no survivors.
Sunday 6 January some sixty vessels took advantage of a southerly
breeze to put to sea. Most of these vessels had been confined to
Liverpool
for some weeks due to contrary winds. Fortunately the majority got
clear before the hurricane struck.
Those in the dock basins caught in the wind and tide literally pounded
to pieces by collision with each other and with the quays. Flats,
fishing smacks and schooners were reduced to matchwood and substantial
vessels tied to the quays were seriously damaged. Those ships anchored
in
Bootle Bay were more fortunate as they has sea room in which to
manoeuvre. While a few sank, some fifteen or sixteen vessels were flung
ashore by the force of the wind. Here most were dismasted and buffeted
by
the swell for the next four days.
Liverpool Docks and Liverpool Bay proved to be lethal anchorages in
January 1839.
Three vessels, the MARY BIBBY, MAJESTIC and the RUBY, had sailed from
Liverpool on Sunday. As they met the oncoming tempest they turned back
into Liverpool and found the North West Lightship which guided them
into the North Channel. Other following vessels were to seek the
Lightship in vain. Early on Monday morning the heavy sea had snapped her
moorings and she had drifted several miles out of position. In view of
this
the crew decided to put into Liverpool. All hands were needed and none
could be spared to place marker bouys. Even if they had it is unlikely
that they would have stayed in position.
Lieutenant Denham, the Marine Surveyor, did not have a steamer at his
disposal and had to hire one. The Liverpool and Dublin Stam Packet
Company made a steamer available to tow a duplicate Lightship into
position. This proved inpossible due to a combination of high tides and
adverse weather and so did not take place until the morning of Wednesday
9
January, when the worse of the storm was over. The absence of the
Lightship resulted in the running aground of ships and great loss of
life.
The Packet ship CAMBRIDGE anchored off St. George's pier began to trail
her anchors in the gale. As she lunged towards the pier head the
captain held up a chalked board offering a thousand pounds to any steamer
who would tow him out of this dangerous position. No one accepted. Then
a small boat with eight sailors and riggers on board left the pier head
to try to reach the CAMBRIDGE. Hundreds of people had gathered along
the dock to watch the attempt. To their horror the boat capsized and
they could only watch helplessly while five men drowned withing a few
yards of the pier. The CAMBRIDGE managed to extract herself from her
dangerous position and was to ride out the storm off Seacombe.
One of the first casualties was an inbound vessel, the BRIGHTON. She
struck the Great Burbo Sandbank on the morning of Monday 7 January.
Lashed by wind she bagan to disintegrate. Fourteen crewmen improvised a
raft in a vain attempt to reach the mainland. All perished. On Monday
afternoon the Magazines lifeboat attempted to rescue the Captain and
the remainder of the crew who were clinging to the rigging. The violence
of the storm prevented this. The crewmen had to cling for their lives
for a further twelve hours when they were saved by the lifeboat and
transferred to the Seacome steamer LIVERPOOL.
The packet ship St. ANDREW had sailed from Liverpool at 3 pm on Sunday 6
January. By midnight the St. ANDREW encountered a severe gale which by
2 am, had increased to hurricane strength and reduced her sails to
ribbons. A crewman was blown from the yard arm to the deck and severly
injured. Understandably when Captain Thompson ordered his men aloft they
flatly refused. Consequently the ship became unmanageable. It was not
until Monday afternoon that a foresail and a mizzen-sail were rigged up
and she attempted to get back to Liverpool in this crippled state. At
10.30 am on Tuesday she struck the Burbo Sands. Thompson took two
decisions quickly. First he cleared the ship of alcohol, staving in all
spirit casks and throwing overboard all bottles of wines or spirits.
.......He ordered the ship's lifeboats to take the passengers to the
nearby steam vessel VICTORIA. By 5 pm the vessel, except for three
crewmen
who refused to leave, was cleared. The St. ANDREW then drifte!
d and eventually struck Mockbeggar Wharf, the main sandbank, where she
was reduced to a total wreck with the complete loss of her cargo.
(Packet Ship) PENNSYLVANIA had left Liverpool on the 25 December and
had anchored at the mouth of the Mersey in order to seize the first
favourable wind. Her master, Captain Smith, was fourty years old and an
experienced commander, She put to sea on Sunday evening and had reached
the Skerries off Anglesey when the hurricane struck her. It was not
until Tuesday morning with an improvised foresail she limped back into
Liverpool Bay. There was, due to the storm, no pilot to meet the ship at
the cusomary rendezvous. Nor was the North West Lightship in position.
With great skill the crew tried to bring the vessel through the
sandbanks. At noon Smith ordered two anchor cables be let down in an
attempt
to stabilise the vessel and ride out the storm. They almost made it.
a 60 fathom cable was let down on the port side, but before a second
cable could be let over the starboard bow a sharp gust turned the
PENNSYLVANIA into the gale and forced her into a collision with Hoyle Ba!
nk. This happened several times and she began to fill with water.
Smith decided to seek help from the mainland. Twelve people--five
passengers and seven crewmen set off in one of the boats. .....Within a
hundred yards of the shore the boat was overwhelmed in the swell. All
were
lost except a passenger Mr. Thompson, whose life was probably saved by
his lifejacket
Hope that this might help.
Peter in North West Ontario
----- Original Message -----
From: Ian Jones
To: Gwynedd.Roots(a)tesco.net
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 2:24 PM
Subject: Jones family in Bangor
As the list is fairly quiet at present I thought I'd try my first request!
I'm hoping someone might be able to help me track down my great grandfather's family in the 1861 or 1871 censuses. He was Griffith Jones, born in 1851 in Garden St Bangor. By the time of his marriage in 1880 he was living in Victoria St, Bangor.
In the 1851 census (taken just before he was born) the rest of his family at 34 Garden St were:
William Jones 42, stonemason born Abergwyngregin
Jane, 42 born Llandegfan, Anglesey
William 19, stonemason born Bangor
Owen 18, stonemason born Bangor
Edward 13, moulder born Bangor
Hugh 11, scholar, born Manchester
John 10, scholar, born Pimlico, Middlesex
Anne Ellen 8, scholar born Pimlico
Margaret, 2, born Bangor
I'm particularly interested in where they were in 1861 and 1871, and in trying to find a confirmation of the place of birth for William senior, as I haven't yet been able to pin him down conclusively in the Aber birth registers for the early 1800s.
Thanks,
Ian.
Hello everyone,
I was wondering if anyone could help me with a paternity problem?
My grandfather was born illegitimately in 1885. His mother, two years later, married the man who I am reasonably confident was his father.
Obviously the father's name isn't on the birth certificate and I can't find a parish register entry for the birth. Does anyone know if any other paperwork would have been created that might say who the father was?
Many thanks
Julie
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Dear Julie
Many thanks for your lookups. These are definitely the right ones. I had
thought maybe some more children would have been at home - there was at
least a son, Gruffydd, born c 1841, and two sisters - Jane (c 1851) and Mary
(c 1843). Mary was married to John Roberts (1840-1919) with a houseful of
children (10 in all, one of whom appears on the 1871 in Penlon) and living
at Glandwr House/Shop in Trevor (Llanaelhaearn). There had been another
sister, Elizabeth, b 1845 but she had died in 1864. So it looks like
Gruffydd and Jane had also left home by 1871.
Thank you again.
Eirian
----- Original Message -----
From: Julie Long <julielong(a)ntlworld.com>
To: <WLS-GWYNEDD-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: [GWYNEDD] BENJAMIN & JANE WILLIAMS
> Hi Eirian
>
> Here, I think, are your family on the 1871 census.
>
> Llanaelhaiarn
> Penlon
> Benjamin Williams head 55 Quarry labourer born Carnguwch
> Jane Williams wife 59 born Llangybi.
> Ellen Williams unmarried 16 born Llanelhaiarn.
> I believe the following two entries belong to the same household as well.
> Jane Roberts grandaughter aged 4 born Llanelhaiarn.
> John Williams lodger unmarried 30 stone quarrier born Conwy.
>
> and this for the 1891.
> still at Penlon
> Benjamin is now 76 occupation farmer and place of birth is now Pistyll.
> Jane is 80 birth place Llangybi.
>
> Regards
> Julie
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "tiscali" <eevans(a)tinyworld.co.uk>
> To: <WLS-GWYNEDD-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 6:55 AM
> Subject: [GWYNEDD] BENJAMIN & JANE WILLIAMS
>
>
> > Since the list is so quiet just now, I thought I'd re-post the following
> > query.
> > My gg grandfather Benjamin Williams (age 66)appears in the 1881 census
> with
> > wife Jane (age 70) and daughter Elinor (age 26, dressmaker). The address
> is
> > Pen Lon, Llanaelhaiarn.
> > Does someone have access to the 1871 census where there may be further
> > children - Gruffydd, Mary & Jane? There was another daughter, Elizabeth
,
> > but she had died in 1864.
> > Also have the MI's for Llanaelhaiarn church been transcribed? Many of my
> > relatives are buried there.
> >
> > Thank you
> >
> > Eirian
> >
> > p.s. I don't have their 1891 census listings either .......
Hello all,
We have just added the following indexes to North Wales BMD :
Civil Marriages - Llanrwst Registration district:
1873 - 1918 (2,990 entries)
"Church" marriages in Wrexham registration district:
Esclusham, Holy Trinity
1880 - 1950 (500 entries)
Eyton, Saint Deiniol
1940 - 1950 (20 entries)
Gwersyllt, Holy Trinity
1851 - 1950 (1,442 entries)
--
Vic Roberts
Dafydd Hayes
Joint co-ordinators / webmasters, North Wales BMD
http://www.northwalesbmd.org.ukhttp://www.gpmgogleddcymru.org.uk
Since the list is so quiet just now, I thought I'd re-post the following
query.
My gg grandfather Benjamin Williams (age 66)appears in the 1881 census with
wife Jane (age 70) and daughter Elinor (age 26, dressmaker). The address is
Pen Lon, Llanaelhaiarn.
Does someone have access to the 1871 census where there may be further
children - Gruffydd, Mary & Jane? There was another daughter, Elizabeth ,
but she had died in 1864.
Also have the MI's for Llanaelhaiarn church been transcribed? Many of my
relatives are buried there.
Thank you
Eirian
p.s. I don't have their 1991 census listings either .......
Hi Gordon
I am not getting much mail from Gwynedd list only one or two a day, are you getting amy more?
Andy
>
> From: "Gordon Penlington" <G.Penlington(a)btinternet.com>
> Date: 2004/03/16 Tue PM 07:26:17 GMT
> To: WLS-GWYNEDD-L(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: Re: [GWYNEDD] John Edwards 1793
>
> Hi andy.
> Looking at the names on the Gwynedd list ,they appear to be all the old
> hands that have been on the list for the last good few years, but you may be
> lucky, someone may have seen what we want, since we first asked about john,
> so keep ploding, its the only way.
> cheers gordon
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <a.hollister(a)ntlworld.com>
> To: <WLS-GWYNEDD-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 7:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [GWYNEDD] John Edwards 1793
>
>
> >
> > >
> > > From: <a.hollister(a)ntlworld.com>
> > > Date: 2004/03/11 Thu PM 05:32:50 GMT
> > > To: WLS-GWYNEDD-L(a)rootsweb.com
> > > Subject: [GWYNEDD] John Edwards 1793
> > > Hi Just reposting this request as I have had trouble receiving mail from
> this list. Thanks
> > > Hi List
> > > Is there sks who could help me with my brick wall my grt grt grt
> grandfather John Edwards was born around 1793 at Caerhun father Robert
> Edwards mother Mary. I have been told that the records for 1792/1794 are
> missing.
> > >
> > > Any help with this would be very much appreciated.
> > >
> > >
> > > Andy
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Hi everyone...as there is not much going on on the list these days, thought
I'd post something.
I am looking for Elizabeth & John PRITCHARD...as follows:
1813 - Elizabeth HERSEE b. 1813 in Clerkenwell, London
1854 - Her father dies and (we think) leave her some money.
1855 - 56 She buys the Queen's Hotel in Llandudno and runs it aged 42
1856 - Is Hotel Keeper at Queen's Hotel
1859 - Is Hotel keeper at Queen's Hotel
1859 (Dec 31) marries,at age 46, John PRITCHARD, in Leamington Priors,
Warwickshire where her two unmarried sisters live.
1861 - Hotel Keeper's wife in census...no sign of John.
1871 - ??? Not in Wales that I can see.
1881 - At Conwy Workhouse as inmate/widow.
1886 - Dies at workhouse.
WHAT HAPPENED TO HER?
Does anyone have John Pritchard on thie tree? Am awaiting their marriage cert
to find out more about him....but thought I'd ask here anyway...just in case!
Susan Davies......searching for:
DAVIES - Llandyfrydog and Amlwch, Anglesey 1800 - now
EDWARDS - Llanerchymedd and Amlwch, Anglesey 1880
HERSEE - Llandudno 1850 +
JONES - Llandyfrydog, pre 1790
JONES - Dwygyfychi , Gyffin and Penmaenmawr, Caernarvonshire from 1850
JONES - Llangwystennin, Conwy Parish 1800 - now
OWEN - Llandyfrydog, Anglesey from 1780
OWENS - Dwygyfylchi, Caernarvonshire 1800 - now
PRITCHARD - Amlwch, Holyhead, Anglesey 1880 - now
WILLIAMS - Llangwystennin, Conwy Parish 1800 - now
WILLIAMS - Llanwenllfyo, pre 1780
On the death certificate that I received there
is no name of spouse, so I'm uncertain if this is the correct one.
This will be the only death certifiacte... in the event of an accident, and
an inquiry...the spouse was not named in the certificate (unfortunately).
SUE
He was killed in an accident in the stone
quarry, which is where my great grandfather worked. Is there any way to
find an obituary for him? Is there another way I can verify that this
is the correct certificate?
Marilyn
My great grandfather also was killed in the (?) same quarry in
Dwygyfychi/Penmaenmawr...in 1912...I found a entry in the NORTH WALES WEEKLY newspaper
(local libraries have microfilm copies) of the inquiry....full details...etc...
I also found his death certificate in the local Registrars Office in
Llandudno.
SUSAN DAVIES
CONNECTICUT
USA
I have been reading a memorial to a Merionethshire preacher William Williams
o'r Wern, who was born in Llanfachreth about 1781. The memorial includes a
description of Capel Penystryd in Trawsfynydd which says that "The gallery was
decorated by a large number of coffin plates which contained the names of those
who were buried in the adjoining cemetery".
I have seen the outside of Capel Penystryd, but I have not been inside, is
there a list member who has been inside the building who could tell me if the
coffin plates are still there?
Coffin plates also use to adorn the Parish Church in Dolgellau until the
First World War when they were removed and melted for the war effort,
unfortunately. Is placing coffin plates in the church / chapel something unique to
Penystryd and Dolgellau Church or was it also done in other areas? If it was more
widespread I would be very pleased to hear of any surviving examples of this
tradition anywhere in Wales.
all the best
Alwyn
I have found a death certificate that I think is my great grandfather's.
He died before my grandmother was born, 1885, in
Penmaenmawr/Dwygyfylchi. On the death certificate that I received there
is no name of spouse, so I'm uncertain if this is the correct one.
Everything fits, though. He was killed in an accident in the stone
quarry, which is where my great grandfather worked. Is there any way to
find an obituary for him? Is there another way I can verify that this
is the correct certificate?
Thanks in advance,
Marilyn
Miami, FL
Researching Griffiths, Jones, Parry, Jung/Young, Ziegenfus, Sacks