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Christine wrote :-
> I need some help to locate some addresses that my ancestors lived at 1
Glanywern, Dyffryn, Llanenddwyn. My gt, gt, gt aunt, Gwen Jones was born
there in 1884.
This 'Dyffryn' is Dyffryn Ardudwy, a few miles north of Barmouth which is on
the west coast of mid-Wales.
Llanenddwyn was the 'census place' for the area, certainly in the 1881
census. A quick search in the '81 showed two families living at Glanywern -
John Davies, a retired draper & grocer + wife Laura + grand daughter
Margaret Williams, and Hugh Williams, also a grocer + sister Margaret.
Graig Isa was obviously a large farm as Sylvanus Jones, wife Anne and
children Ellen and Dorothy lived there with 4 farm servants. and and
family).
I did not look for Coedystumgwern
).
I could search for Gwen Jones' parents if you have any details of
names and/or ages.
All the best,
Allen (Criccieth, Gwynedd)
Hi,
Can anyone tell me anything about this man and his family?
I have an obituary notice dated May 1946, Rev. OWEN JONES- HOLYHEAD
officiated at the funeral of his brother RICHARD LLOYD JONES aged 83.
In the 1881 census, I found Richard Ll. & his father (w) (both tailors) with
siblings, but no OWEN, he may have been living elsewhere.
I think he may have been a WELSH Baptist Minister.
Will be grateful for any help or advice where to look.
Dorothy Lloyd. 2739
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Hi,
I need some help to locate some addresses that my ancestors lived at.
1 Glanywern, Dyffryn, Llanenddwyn. My gt, gt, gt aunt, Gwen Jones was born there in 1884.
2 Coedystumgwern, Dyffryn, Llanenddwyn. Can any one tell me if this area was originally one farm. I have found it on a modern map
but the birth details of my gt, gt, gt, aunt
Catherine Jones in 1885 give just Coedystumgwern.
3.Pen y cae Langelynin. This was where my gt, gt grandmother was born in 1852.
4.Graig isa. Llanenddwyn. My gt, gt, gt grandfather farmed there from 1845 and may even have been born there in about 1796.
I would be grateful for any help.
Christine
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HI
Can any one help me locating addresses my ancestors lived at.
1 Graig Isa, Llanenddwyn. this would have been a farm, my gt, gt, grandfather Morris Jones was born there in 1850.
2 Pen y cae, Llangelynin. my gt, gt grandmother Anne Jones was born there in 1852.
3 Glanywern, Dyffryn, Llanenddwyn. My gt, gt,
gt aunt Gwen Jones was born there in 1884.
4 Coedystumgwern, Dyffryn, Llaneddwyn. I have found this on a map. Was this originally one farm as it was given as the place of birth for my gt, gt, gt aunt Catherine Jones born in 1885.
I would be grateful for any information
Christine
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Hi,
I never considered Ireland as a possibility for finding our families
links. However, as I read the early history of the Celts; there were
connections and commerce between Dublin and Gwynnedd. In the Archives
of the NLW there are papers which show that Hugh Gwyn made a trip to
Dublin. I believe this was in the Sotheby papers. Also, I was reading
that Milford Haven was a notorious pirates den, and that Lewelyn ap
Gruffudd had allied himself with the Dublin Vikings against Edward I
in 1282.
Neal
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> Do you think "Guihen" could be pronounced Gwyn?
>
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> Subject: [WYNNE] Guihen or Wynne (Kilronan Parish)
> Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 11:18:36 -0600
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> Date: 12 Aug 2002 10:55:27 -0600
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> I am hoping that someone might be able to help me find some further information regarding my GUIHEN or WYNNE ancestors, who are known to have resided in the Parish of Kilronan, County Roscommon from the mid/late 1800s, through into the early 1900s at least.
>
> My great, great grandparents were Francis Guihen and Anne Early, they married at Kilronan on 1st March 1842. Their children were born at Greaghnaleava Beg, Kilronan, between the years of 1843 and 1864. They were Maria, John, Catherine, Anne, James, Michael, Margaret and my great grandfather Dennis.
>
> Moving forward, the 1901 Census of Ireland shows my great grandfather Dennis Guihen (aged 36 but parish records confirm he was actually 40 at the time) and his wife Anne (32), sons James aged 10, John aged 5 and Dennis (my grandfather) aged 3, along with daughter Maggie Anne aged 1. Daughters Elizabeth and Theresa were presumably born in later years as they do not appear on the Census.
>
> At this point, the trail starts to go cold. We know that my grandfather Dennis Guihen moved to England in the early 1900s and had adopted the name Dennis Wynne. He was visited there by cousin Paddy Gilhooly, a very common name according to Kilronan records. Dennis died in the mid 1940s. We have no idea what happened to any of his siblings named above, whether they retained the Guihen surname or also adopted the Wynne derivation, and whether they stayed in Leitrim/Roscommon or left Ireland too.
>
> Any further information on any of these names, but particularly those listed above from the 1901 Census, would be very much appreciated indeed.
>
> Derek Cooper.
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Hi,
I can't find where J.E. Griffith's book Pedigrees of Anglesy and
Carnarvonshire Families with their branches in Denbighshire,
Merionshire. and other parts mentions Lewys Dwnn's works. Did
Griffith writing in 1879 use this 1846 work in his book?
Neal
USA
Judy
Your very welcome
Regards
Kevin
My Interests;
WILLIAMS - Bistre, Mold.
HOWIT - Mold, Flintshire.
BARNETT - Nantwich/Chester.
JONES - Gorton, Manchester.
JONES - Rhoscoch, Anglesey/Everton
BROOK(E)S - Dyserth/Llanasa
POWELL - Dyserth.
HUGHES - Dyserth
CAMPBELL - Rhuddlan.
WILLIAMS - Cwm/Meliden.
Family Website;
www.alba56.freeserve.co.uk/williams.htm
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Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 9:08 AM
Subject: Re: [GWYNEDD] Houses in Trefriw
> In a message dated 8/15/2002 6:46:52 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> kevin_williams(a)alba56.freeserve.co.uk writes:
>
>
> > http://www.pelma.co.uk/postmap.htm
> >
> >
>
> Thank you Kevin.
>
> When I was in business and postcodes were inverted the first Letter or the
> first and last Letter were used as the first part of the codes and was the
> and indication of the town from which the post was directed. I presume
> that LL stood for Llandudno as I used to write to my son there every week
for
> about five years.
>
> Perhaps as Wales is more sparsely populated than the part of Yorkshire
that I
> used to live in then, it covered a wider area.
>
> Regards
>
> Judy and Derbyshire
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In a message dated 8/15/2002 6:46:52 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
kevin_williams(a)alba56.freeserve.co.uk writes:
> http://www.pelma.co.uk/postmap.htm
>
>
Thank you Kevin.
When I was in business and postcodes were inverted the first Letter or the
first and last Letter were used as the first part of the codes and was the
and indication of the town from which the post was directed. I presume
that LL stood for Llandudno as I used to write to my son there every week for
about five years.
Perhaps as Wales is more sparsely populated than the part of Yorkshire that I
used to live in then, it covered a wider area.
Regards
Judy and Derbyshire
Hello Pat
According to the Post Code book there is a Penlan at LLLL27 0JU and a
Wigfa at LL27 0JX
Pat Hughes
In message <NGBBLDCHOMACNPFLEHFCAENLCCAA.Pat(a)pat24.freeserve.co.uk>, Pat
Chapman <Pat(a)pat24.freeserve.co.uk> writes
>Dear List
>According to the 1881 census ancestors of mine lived in Trefriw in houses
>called Wigfa, Pen Lan and Bryn Tawel. This afternoon I found Bry Tawel.
>Does anyone know if Wigfa and Pen Lan are still there and if so where?
>Thanks
>Pat Chapman
>
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Pat Hughes
Dear List
According to the 1881 census ancestors of mine lived in Trefriw in houses
called Wigfa, Pen Lan and Bryn Tawel. This afternoon I found Bry Tawel.
Does anyone know if Wigfa and Pen Lan are still there and if so where?
Thanks
Pat Chapman
In a message dated 13/08/2002 21:34:14 GMT Daylight Time, bapace2(a)juno.com
writes:
> The article
> offered as a source someone named Lewys Dwnn. Is anyone familiar with
> this writer?
>
Lewys Dwnn (1550-1616) was the deputy Herald at Arms for Wales, and was
responsible to the Clarencieux King at Arms for checking out the validity of
Welsh Claims to Amoral bearings in the late 16th early 17th century. His
collections of heraldic and genealogical documents are not preserved
together, some are in the British Library, some are in the NLW and some,
sadly, have been lost.
The collection was published in two volumes in 1846 by S R Meyrick.
I can't comment on how authoratative the book that quotes Dwnn is, because I
know very little about it, however Dwnn himself is well respected as an
authority.
All the best
Alwyn
I found a non-circulating book (two I think) in my library and it
contained an article on one of my ancestors (Pulestons). The article
offered as a source someone named Lewys Dwnn. Is anyone familiar with
this writer?
The book that had this article (quoting Lewys Dwnn) on my Pulestons was:
"Annals and Antiquities of the Counties and County Families of Wales "
By Thomas Nicholas, M.A., Ph.D, F.G.S., etc. (an editor, I suspect)
2nd Issue, Rev. and much enlarged in two volumes
Vol. I
Pub'd first in 1872, then 1875, and now 1991 by Genealogical Publishing
Co., Inc
Second question--
Is this book widely accepted as authoritative? I had the feeling that it
was a compilation of a lot of self-written genealogies. It was very
interesting to me, especially since it said:
"Robert Puleston, Esq., of Emral [Flintshire], who m. Lowri, dau. of
Gruffydd Vychan Ap Gruffydd of Rhuddalt (sister of Owen Glyndwr).
Robert became a strong supporter of the insurrection headed by the heroic
Owen, his brother-in-law, in consequence of which his estates were
imperiled." This was the father of my Elin/Eleanor Puleston who married
Goronwy Ap Ieuan Ap Einion Ap Gruffydd of Gwynfrun. Either she or her
father (Robert) was born in 1358.
I can't say that I really recommend this book(s) since it doesn't appear
to have great organization--no index that is workable. You almost
stumble into things.
Betty Pace
Hi Lynn,
I don't know if I answered this or not. I don't have a specific date for
my Hugh Thomas but here are some surrounding generations that do have
dates.
13 Richard Lloyd (of Rhosgyll Fawr & Tan Yr Allt)
+ Elinor Hughes
14 William Lloyd (of Rhosgyll Fawr & Tan Yr Allt, Caer.)
14 Catherine Lloyd b: BET. 1667 - 1668 d: 10 NOV 1710
+ Richard Madryn d: 1694 (no children)
+ Hugh Thomas (her 2nd husband)
15 John Thomas d: 29 MAY 1767, Rhosgyll Fawr, Eifionydd, Caer.
+ Jane Williams d: 3 MAY 1735
16 Richard Lloyd Thomas d. 1811, Caer.
16 William Thomas
16 Thomas Thomas d. 1731
16 John Thomas (1732-1787) Rector Llanfrolhen
16 Griffith Thomas (chr.4-24-1735)
16 Anne Thomas b: 1733Rhosgyll Fawr d: 1812Llanpatrick, Ang.
+ John Parry b: 1726 d: 1825Llanpatrick, Ang
According to J. E. Griffith's "Pedigrees of Anglesey and Caernarvonshire
Families..." and the WILLPERF database on world connect, rootsweb.com,
the dates would be earlier than your Hugh Thomas. I haven't yet had the
courage to try searching for a Thomas Hughes, hoping it will be the same
fellow.
Betty
> From: Beachcomber259(a)aol.com
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> To: WLS-GWYNEDD-L(a)rootsweb.com
>
> Subject: [GWYNEDD] Regarding Hugh THOMAS
>
> >
> Betty.....could you please tell me when Hugh THOMAS
> was born. I have a
> Hugh
> THOMAS......Great-great grandfather who lived for a
> time in BrynEithin,
> Bodedern, Anglesey Wales and was a farmer there.....he
> had a son named
> John
> THOMAS and another son Thomas HUGHES......my
> great-grandfather. Realize
> it
> may not be any connection, but had to ask. My Hugh
> THOMAS waas born
> about
> 1821 in Ceirchiog Anglesey Wales and had a sister
> named Margaret THOMAS
> who
> was born sometime abt. 1799 Know this is all
> confusing...but with all
> the
> HUGHES, THOMAS,JONES,ROWLAND, and ROBERTS.......it
> becomes a tangled
> web.
> Let me know if any of this connects.
> Warm Regards,
> Lynn
>
>
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Am still trying to find information on my grandfather and g/grandfather. My
grandfather was Hugh Owen and was living at Hendurnpike Tregarth when he got
married aged 26yrs in 1903 his fathers name was John Owen[ deceased] can any
"lister" be so kind and see if they can find the family on the1881 census
please.Also information on my grandmother's father Morris Owen who I believe
lived at Pontraich ,Tregarth in 1903 This was the marriage of an Owen to an
Owen.Information on this part of the family also required please.Regards.
Alun.
>From: Jonathan Gentry <jgentry(a)idirect.com>
>Subject: [GWYNEDD] Llanfihangel-y-Treathau, MER
>Are the memorial inscriptions recorded for this parish anywhere?
>
Hello Johnathon
According to the April 2002 publication of the Gwynedd Family History
Society magazine, 'Gwynedd Roots' the MI's for Llanfihangel-y-Traethau,
Capel Nasareth (MC/CM) have been recorded but no mention of any Church
records.
This is available on fiche or hard copy.
You might try the societies web page.
--
Pat Hughes
Hello list,
this is an E-Mail i got off a very kind lady who was looking at the year
1850 ..........
Hello Einir
I was actually doing some research for a lady and I was in the Caernarfon
archives. I was looking at either Bethesda censuses or parish records. I
couldn't remember who was researching the name,but it's so unusual that it
stuck out!
Maggi
now as far as i know my ggg grandfather william Roscoe was living in 3
dinorwig terrace caernarvon in the 1881 census, he was aged 35 at this time
therefore puts him born in 1846 i wonder if his family moved to wales namely
caernarvon or bethesda area when he was a baby ? he lived at 3 donirwig
terrace with his wife ellen (nee owens) and his 4 children but i was led to
beleive that he was born in runcorn the name Roscoe is an unusuall one, for
north wales anyway so if anyone has come accross or knows of any records
regarding this name in or around 1850 in the bethesda or caernarvon area i
would dearly love to know what you know . thanks to all in advance.
kind regards
Einir
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Hi,
A few weeks ago someone, in reply to a request by me, sent details of the
locations of Llangystennin Church and Brodnant Farm. Unfortunately I have
"lost" the E-Mail, so would be obliged if it could be resent.
Thanks
John Price
I'd appreciate it if any response to this could be posted to the list,
please - just in case the occupant is a relative of my Llanllyfni
PARRY/WILLIAMS family.
Gordon Evans
Herefordshire
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From: "Keith Morris" <keith(a)members.v21.co.uk>
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Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 4:04 PM
Subject: [GWYNEDD] Ty Hwnt i'r Avon, Llanllyfni.
> Is there SKS with access to the 1881 Census Index who could lookup and
tell me who was living at "TY HWNT I'R AVON" in the Parish of LLANLLYFNI?
>
> I would be very grateful.
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Keith Morris.
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My heads of household for HUGHES families in Wales and Wirral were:-
William HUGHES, blacksmith, Ceidio, llannerchymedd, Anglesey c1780-c1845
Richard HUGHES, Madoc Street, llandudno, Wales, 1815-1897
William HUGHES, Tudno Villa, llangollen, Wales, 1839-1912
Arthur Richard HUGHES, Morfen, Abbey Road, llandudno, 1869-1949
Hugh HUGHES, llandudno - moved to USA in c1870s, was in USA 1904 for sure
John HUGHES, Llanbeblig, died sometime close to 1890
William Charles Llewelyn HUGHES, Raeburn Avenue, West Kirby, Wirral, Cheshire
1897-1975
Others in my family are connected to these HUGHES's, ie sons, daughters etc.
Hugh HUGHES was the one who moved to USA and we lost him there! apart from
appearing on a Will of his sister in 1904 as "living in America"
Mark HUGHES