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There would I locate the will of a master mariner (John Williams) died at
sea when the Truant disappeared in late Oct. 1874? The ship left
Liverpool and was never seen again. I don't know where it was headed.
John Williams' family lived in Amlwch, Anglesey at the time. I am not
even sure that this John Williams is mine, and that is why I want to view
the will. The master of the Truant was b. in 1836.
Betty Pace
I have just spent two days in Carvarvon archives and one day in the
University of Bango MSS collection and have the following information about
PARRY which are unrelated to me but may be of interest to someone else on
this list.
I have "copies" of Pension "cheques" for Grace Parry widow of William Parry
from Penrhyn Quarries. They are for half-year annuities dated Dec 31 1869;
June 30, 1870; Dec 31, 1870, and June 29, 1872. The pension for Dec 31,
1869 is for a partial annuity and not the full amount.
Parry Quarrymen who died at Penrhyn Quarry include:
William Parry, Llidiartygwenyn, Medi 9 1864
William Parry, Tynymaes, Gorphenaf 3 1867
John William Parry, Carneddi, Mehefin 26, 1874
Richard Parry, Llanllechid. Ei daraw yn sy dyn yn wael, a bu farw yn union
yn yr yspytty Rhagfy 7, 1874 yn 82 oed.
...extracted from a book of deaths from quarry accidents for Llanberis and
Penrhyn Quarries.
from Register of Burials, Llanllechid Parish
no 39. Grace Parry, Caellwyngrydd July 1 1864, 55 yrs
no 85. William Parry, Llydiart y Gwenyn, Sept 22 1864, 68 yrs
no 49. William Parry, Tyn y Mach, July 6, 1867, 6 years
no.63. Grace Parry, Caellwyngrydd, Nov 13 1867, 2 months
William Parry, Gerlan, Feb 11 1869, 63 years
William Parry, Caellwyngrydd, Mar 28 1871, 10 yrs
Ann Parry, Caellwyngrydd, Mar 28 1871, 82 yrs
William Parry, Caellwyngrydd, June 24 1871, 5 yrs.
Children of William & Grace Parry of Llidiartygwenyn
Marry Born July 31, 1829
John Born Sept 25 1830
Mary born Oct 27 1832
Henry born Nov 18 1834
John born May 24 1837
All were christened at the Welsh Calvinist Methodist Capel yr Achub,
replaced by Capel y Carneddi in 1816.
If any of this is of any use to anyone, good luck tracing your family.
in friendship,
tina helfrich
Birmingham, UK
Tina Helfrich
Birmingham, UK
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Hello Listers,
Did anyone reply to the above query which was sent to this List last month
(October)?
Haven't noticed a reply & I too would like to know if any records are
available & where to find them.
Kind regards,
Brenda Jones.
All incoming & outgoing mail is protected by NORTON ANTI-VIRUS.
Researching;
ALLASON - CUL. 18 -19c.
BLYTHING; BICKERSTAFF; ILLIDGE; ROWLANDS - LIVERPOOL & LAN. 17-20c.
GRIFFITH; JONES; ROWLANDS - AGY & CAE. 18 -20c.
MIDDLETON -YKS. 18 -19c.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tina Helfrich" <tinahelfrich(a)blueyonder.co.uk>
To: <WLS-GWYNEDD-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 6:52 PM
Subject: [GWYNEDD] Records of Penyrhyn Quarries
> Does anyone know if the records from Penyrhyn Quarries are available for
> family research?
>
> My ancestors were all slate quarry workers in Llanllechid and Tre-r-garth
> and I think all the quarries in this region were owned by Lord Penyrhyn.
>
> I am visiting my friends in Bethesda in November and plan to set aside
four
> days for family research so would like to be able to research their work
> history if possible.
>
> thanks for the help
>
> tina helfrich
>
Trying this one again>
Geraint
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From: "Geraint L. Jones" <geraintjo(a)lineone.net>
To: <WLS-GWYNEDD-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 6:47 PM
Subject: [GWYNEDD] 1871 Census
> I wonder if anyone could possibly check the 1871 census for Nefyn. I'm
looking for a family living at Tan y Bragdy Nefyn. They should be John and
Ann Parry.
> regards
> Geraint
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From: Malcolm Bebb <bebb(a)embetech.demon.co.uk>
To: POWYS-L(a)rootsweb.com
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 22:58:36 +0000
Subject: [POWYS] PRO Update
Hi All,
just passing this on:
---------
The 1901 Online Census has moved into a full service, operating
twenty-four
hours a day, seven days a week.
Please see the below link to the PRO's homepage for more information on
this
development.
http://www.pro.gov.uk/about/access/statement.htm
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Malcolm
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Helo Bobol
I am in the process of researching the old slate and slab quarry known
as Craig y Fachddu,Cwmodin and Abercorris, There was were six houses just
below the quarry named Craigyfachddu. Has anyone got information about the
inhabitants of these properties, as I would like to names, or even characters
into my findings. Maybe this will help others in their family research.
Best regards to you
all
Bill
jones.
................my grandmothers remedies for such occasions: "Syrup of
Figs", "Wermod Lwyd" "Oel Morris Ifans" "Asipheta" "Panagoric" Each remedy
was so "unforgettable", (many a cure worse than the pain) I'm sure that
they must bring back memories to many listers -
As a 'Gog' who was forcefully immigrated into the wilds of North Wales at an
early age (the Lledr Valley in 1928 actually) I am only familiar with one of
your Nain's remedies - Olew Morris Ifans. Syrup of Figs was replaced by
Senna Pods, and Goosegrease covered for the others.
Mr Ifans in fact produced 2 different oils, one for humans and one for
cattle, both for external use' only and both with an overpowering, pungent
smell of embrocation. His best sales were in fact to local jobbing builders
who used the human variety for paint stripping and the other for the
removal of plaster.
I think every footballer in the Vale of Conway League playing for Trefriw,
Llanrwst, Betwsycoed, Penmachno and Dolwyddelan used the former and always
emerged from the dressing rooms with tears streaming from their eyes. The
teams from the coastal area such as , Conway, Llandudno and especially Glan
Conway were much too posh to use oil from Ffestiniog and, after dabbing
themselves with a few drops of perfume, would take advantage of the
streaming eyes and score a couple of goals before we could see our
opponents, never mind the ball ! However we almost invariably prevailed in
the end, our supple, well-oiled (and well proportioned, I might add ) limbs
easily outlasting those of our rivals.
Allen (Criccieth)
This may help some Jones researchers. This was a reply to a lookup
request.
Betty Pace
----- Forwarded Message -----
From: "barbara lane" <BABILULA50(a)msn.com>
To: ENG-LIVERPOOL-L(a)rootsweb.com
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 10:31:27 -0000
Subject: [ENG-LIV] JONES-liquor dealer
In 1791 Universal British Directory there is an EDWARD JONES who has
several premises and is listed as a victualler, but it sounds like liquor
would be involved too!
Two Brewers 4 Matthew Street
Fenwick Street Coffee House at Brunswick Street
Golden Ball 1 Chapel Street
Also John Jones Vine Tavern 3 Cleveland Square
I stopped too soon!! The one you probably want is JONES WILLIAM & JONES
wine Merchants 22 Park Lane. But there are also the following:
Edward Jones Gidarts Gardens Bevington Bush
John Jones Anglesea Coffee House 32 Chapel Street
Robert Jones The Red Lion Spitalfields
William Jones The Horse 13 Harrington St
William Jones Duke of York New Strand Street
Richard Jones Carpenters' Arms 30 Moore Street
Robert Jones clerk to the Porter Brewery ??
Seems like the Jones clan had just about got the serious business of
drinking in Liverpool well sewn up!! Hope something from this might prove
useful. Sure someone else will find more for you.
Happy hunting
Barbara
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In a message dated 21/11/2002 22:12:28 GMT Standard Time,
aledfychan(a)yahoo.com writes:
> William JONES and ELEANOR poss. in LLANFAIR cabt1826,
> they had a son RICHARD christened in PENYSTRYD
> INDEPENDANT CHAPEL Trawsfynydd in 1827.
>
There are only two marriages between a William Jones and Elinor in the
Ardudwy area between 1813 and 1837 recorded in the Merioneth Marriage Index
William Jones and Elinor Evans married in Llanfihangel y Traethau
(Penrhyndeudraeth area) 13th Nov. 1822
and
William Jones and Elinor Williams married in Trawsfynydd 6 Dec 1813.
Although 1827 is a long way from 1813 it is possible that this is the couple
you are after as they had children baptised in Penstryd in 1813 (William)
1816 (John) and 1819 (Ellin).
The baptism record for Penstryd is in the PRO in London, but Dolgellau
Archives office have a typed transcript of it, which they might be willing to
e-mail details from.
As a number of my own ancestors were members in Penstryd I know that the
baptism record contains the parent's address and occupation, so it may be
possible to compare these details to see how likely it is that the earlier
William Jones and Ellin are the same couple as your William Jones and Elinor
Pob hwyl
Alwyn
Hi All
could someone lookup the following two marriages;
William JONES and ELEANOR poss. in LLANFAIR cabt1826,
they had a son RICHARD christened in PENYSTRYD
INDEPENDANT CHAPEL Trawsfynydd in 1827.
Also;
David THOMAS and Mary EVANS cabt1822 LLANUWCHLLYN,they
had 4 known children, GWEN 1823, MARGARET 1824, LOWRI
1826 and Thomas 1830 christened in Ebeneser
INDEPENDANT Chapel LLANUWCHLLYN.
THANKS.
Cofion gorau
ALED...
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i used to live in Amlwch and went to school with a John Draper, his mother
had a small holding near a place called Burwen which is about a mile or
perhaps less outside of amlwch her husband died very young and john and his
older brother helped run the farm with their mum, john had very distinctive
blonde tight curly hair and the most amazing irridescent blue almond shaped
eyes. long shot maybe but they could be related in some way i assume they
will be in the local directory, look under Amlwch , if no joy then look
under bull bay, and then under Burwen, good luck.
regards
Einir
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To continue in the Latin vein, this has stuck in my mind more than anything
on the official Latin curriculum many years ago ("Show me the way to go
home"):
Monstra viam qua domeam;
Fatigatus et dormire cupio.
Aliquantum aliquando cum Baccho cenaveram
Atque benepotus sum ergo.
Quo cumque pereram
Per aequor aut terram
Carmen hoc me semper canentem audies:
Monstra viam qua domeam.
I apologise to any ex-Latin teachers on the list for any spelling mistakes.
Also to you, Alwyn, for cluttering up the list with non-genealogical stuff!!
Enid.
Ffestiniog.
----- Original Message -----
From: <Skrimhe(a)aol.com>
To: <WLS-GWYNEDD-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: 19 November 2002 10:41
Subject: Re: [GWYNEDD] Latin
> In a message dated 19/11/2002 09:17:21 GMT Standard Time,
AlwynapHuw(a)aol.com
> writes:
>
>
> > I use to have one in my "favourites", but seem to have mislaid it.
> >
>
> Sorry I can`t help with the website you are after Alwyn but thought you
might
> like this little diversion.
>
> "Meum est propositum in taberna mori, ut sint vina proxima morientis ori"
>
> My plan is to die in a pub so that I'll have a drink close to my lips as I
> fade away
>
> Keith.
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From: DCLEATOND(a)aol.com
To: POWYS-L(a)rootsweb.com
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 05:07:28 EST
Subject: Re: [POWYS] advice on WW1
Hi Denise,
Most of the UK fallen in WW1 are on the Commonwealth War Graves
Commission
website. I think it is at "www.cwgc.gov.uk", I used it to locate my
mother's
father who died in Gallipoli in 1915 with the Herefordshire Regt - she
never
knew him.
Regards,
Dennis C. in Rads.
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In a message dated 19/11/2002 09:17:21 GMT Standard Time, AlwynapHuw(a)aol.com
writes:
> I use to have one in my "favourites", but seem to have mislaid it.
>
Sorry I can`t help with the website you are after Alwyn but thought you might
like this little diversion.
"Meum est propositum in taberna mori, ut sint vina proxima morientis ori"
My plan is to die in a pub so that I'll have a drink close to my lips as I
fade away
Keith.
Does anybody know of a site which gives a basic Latin glossary of words found
in PR's wills, etc.?
I use to have one in my "favourites", but seem to have mislaid it.
All the best
Alwyn
Hi John,
Ynyscynhaiarn was the parish that covered the Porthmadog/Tremadoc area.
The Record Office at Caernarfon has the marriage registers for the parish,
but there is a gap between 1886 and 1889. I would be able to have a look for
you, but it will not be for a week or two as I am away on holiday. Unless
someone else can do it sooner, I will have a look when I come back.
Regards,
Keith Morris.
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From: "johnratcliffecq" <johnratcliffecq(a)supanet.com>
To: <WLS-GWYNEDD-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 9:21 PM
Subject: [GWYNEDD] GRIFFITH GRIFFITHS MARRIAGE
> Hello all from a new subscriber in Clwyd,
> Would SKS
> with access to marriages in the Porthmadog area please do a look up for me
> re the marriage, c1884 of :- GRIFFITH GRIFFITHS aged 39/40 (at marriage),
> born Borth and living at Ynyscynhaiarn with his parents William & Jane
> Griffiths inthe 1881 Census and
> ANN MORRIS? aged 34 (at marriage) born Beddgelert and in service at
> Llanfihangel y Pennant in the 1881 Census. Her mother was possibly
Catherine
> Morris widow 67 born Beddgelert and living in Ynyscynhaiarn.
> PS Where exactly is Ynyscynhaiarn?
>
> With thanks, John, Connah's Quay
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Hello all,
Would SKS with access to the above Census please do a look up on
the above family for me. The mother is possibly CATHERINE MORRIS aged 37 and
born in Beddgelert with an infant baby, ANN MORRIS. It is the ANN MORRIS'S
family that I am trying to trace.
With thanks, John, Connah's Quay.