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Trying to find any information out about Vincent, born about 1915ish, brother Alan (D), mother was Elizabeth Foster (NEE DOUBLEDEE) father was Thomas, they were born in Lancashire,, has anybody any information, about Vincents children
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Subject: VINCENT PINNINGTON AND ALAN PINNINGTON
> Can anyone help me with info. on a Alan (d) or Vincent Pinnington mothers
> name Elizabeth Doubledee, Elizabeths mother was a Clara Doubledee married
a
> Thomas Foster. Clara born in 11 May 1960 (i think)
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Hi list,
I have an NCR Microfiche Viewer in good condition, working perfectly, 36x I
think and it is now surplus to my requirements. I will sell it for best offer
over £40.00 but it must be collected as I wouldn`t like to risk sending it
via delivery van. I live near Conwy. First agreed offer takes it. Ready,
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A little help please!
My ggg grandmother lists her place of birth as Machen, GLA on the 1851
census. When I go to the LDS website to check parish records for that
area, I get three choices: Machen, Upper Machen and Lower Machen. Are
they all in the same parish, area ,etc. or am I going to be going at it
blindly. To further complicate matters, my Hannah CALLEN (nee MORRIS)
didn't marry my ggg grandfather until she was 32 years of age, so she was
probably a widow and I don't know if Morris is truly her married name.
Hannah would have been born 1813 or 1814, Machen.
I know this sounds really out there, but I'd like a thoughtful next step
instead of sending off potshots into the dark.
TIA for any suggestions.
Dawn Perry-Taft e-mail: slo_taft(a)juno.com
It never rains in Southern California,
and boy do we need it !!!
interests:
CALLEN/ CULLIN/ CULLEN in Llangattock, BRE
DAVIES/DAVIS in Ebbw Vale, MON
MORRIS in Machen, GLA & SMITH, Thomas descendants Yarkhill, Ledbury,
HERE
Nice to read the transcript of Ivor Davies article about the Pen tunnels, and
I am sure you will receive some feedback on your Ann Jones/Watson.
Interestingly, the shop you talk about in Castle Street was Eagles Buildings
and prior to the turn of the century it was in fact a carpenters/chandlers
workshop. Through the thirties and for the next 40 years my father Stan
Roberts worked there first as a butchers boy and finally as Manager for
thirty years or so.. Yes the shop was J.T. Jones, purveyors of quality meats.
I spent my `formative years` there at weekends either plucking chickens or
delivering meat on the old shop bike with the basket on the front! But I
digress! Ann Forrest has written a super book about Penmaenmawr called "My
Whole World " and in it she describes the village in great and interesting
detail through the 1930`s to the 1960`s and up to present day but in doing so
she gives glimpses of the developement through Victorian times. Its a great
read and can be found now on most North Wales bookstands.
Sadly, Pen is not what it used to be, what with the coming of the expressway
which cuts off the village, plus the degradation of the once proud Victorian
landmarks, but I suppose thats progress aint it.
Have luck with your history,
PS. If anyone wants a jpeg copy of Eagles Buildings with the butchers
standing outside and taken around 1940 I will gladly mail one as an attachment
Keith Roberts. Conwy.
Transcript of an article from "Country Quest", date unknown
I recieved this article from a cousin of mine. I thought it may be of
interest to some of you. The child, Anne WATSON, mentioned in the article
was my g-g-grandmother.
"Making Holes in the Headland"
by Ivor E. Davies
Penmaenbach, between Conway and Penmaenmawr, is Snowdonia's northernmost
bastion, rising 700 feet directly out of the sea. Unlike its partner,
Penmaenmawr, it has not been touched by the despoiling hand of man. Its
sweeping profile is the result of abrasion under the moving ice-sheets of the
geologically recent "Glacial Periods" when our hills lay under a blanket of
ice a couple of thousands of feet in thickness.
Granite from Ailsa Craig-that rocky needle in the Clyde, from Dalbeattie, &c,
round as cobbles on the shores of Arvon, testify to their transport by this
moving sea of ice.
Penmaenbach completely blocked all passage-way until Telford in 1825-26
carried his road around its seaward face by cutting a shelf into tile solid
rock, leaving an isolated pinnacle, nicknamed "The Giant's Thumb," on the
sea side of his road. Telford made his "Penmaenbach loop road" as part of a
great improvement of travel between Chester and Holyhead when he made his
beautiful bridges over the Conway and the Menai, the object being to regain
the mail-coach traffic which had taken to the route via Nant Ffrancon.
It was the "Chester & Holyhead Railway Co.'' that brought the railway through
this district, one of the most
difficult stretches of railway construction of any in the whole kingdom. To
carry it through the flinty substance of old Penmaenbach was indeed a
formidable task as they had to bore through one of the toughest of igneous
rocks.
The contract was let to a firm of tunnelling contractors - Messrs. Harding &
Cropper and, tough and difficult
as it was, they completed their work in 19 months time.
Those who observed the making the road - tunnel at the same spot during
1930-32 have reason to marvel at
the speed with which the railway tunnel was made 85 years earlier. The
road-tunnel is 200 yards in length. while the railway tunnel has a length
three and a half times greater, viz. 718 yards. Modern high explosives,
pneumatic rock boring machines, and other powered devices were used in the
making of the road tunnel, but these aids to human labour were denied to the
railway tunnellers.
As was usual when tunnelling, work went on from both ends simultaneously, and
a "pilot tunnel" of small bore was driven on ahead. A through passage was
first attained when the two pilot tunnels met on the evening of December the
7th, 1846. One of the very first persons to be passed through the pilot
tunnels was a young girl, then 4 years of age, Anne Watson of "Tywern";
"Tywern" is a cottage whose ruins can be seen on the edge of the golf links
at Penmaenmawr. She is remembered as the late Mrs. Anne Jones, "Tudno
House." who lived to a ripe old age and who served her generation as midwife
for the parish for over half a century.
To celebrate the piercing of the headland by the meeting of the pilot
tunnels, two days later, each man was presented with a pound of beef, a quart
of ale, and a pound of bread with cheese and ham, and a day's wages.
From the early 1840s the country had passed through a period of acute trade
depression; these were "the hungry forties." Railway construction came to
provide valued employment. The Penmaenbach undertaking drew workers from far
and near, including miners from the copper mines on the Great Orme. Two
brothers walked each week-end to and from their home, "Lleiniau Hirion,"
Trevor, near Llanaelhaiarn. a distance of 40 miles.
Here it is of interest to dip into certain records, unrelated to each other,
but all having to do with the railway and the tunnel. In the shadow of Sr.
Gwynan's, the Parish church of Dwygyfylchi, a small slate headstone is a
melancholy reminder of a tragedy that brought grief and sorrow to the
superintendent of the tunnel undertaking, Richard McLellan and his family.
It bears the inscription --"Sacred to the memory of Donald McLellan. Died May
20, 1847. Age 8 years.'' From a newspaper of the period one learns that the
little boy came to his untimely end by falling from a tree which, it is
supposed, he had climbed in search of a nest when on his way to school.
From an account-book of the Conway built schooner ---the Lord Willoughby, we
read that, after delivering a
cargo of copper ore from Llandudno at Swansea , she brought back 109 ton of
culm (anthracite small coal) to
Penmaenbach. There, no doubt, she would have gone aground on the edge of the
tide and discharged the culm into carts. It would be for use in the workers
hutments, and for the blacksmiths who treated the tools of the tunnellers.
Not, perhaps, directly concerned with the tunnel, but with the railway in
that region, is an entry in a "Warfinger's book" belonging to the quay at
Trefriw. It records the Conovium - not the last of the Conway vessels of
that name - leaving Trefriw on January 4th, 1846, with 14 tons of "posts and
rails" (Fencing rails). Other similar consignments followed--all for
Penmaenmawr.
Then, from a shop-book that belonged to a Griffith Williams who kept a "Ship
Chandlers" business in Castle
Street, Conway, we can see that he supplied a varied assortment of articles
to "The Penmaenbach Company,''
-a nameplate for a cart, shovels, a milk pail.
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This hand written note was at the bottom of the article:
" The Anne Watson mentioned in this article was the daughter of Edward
Watson of Scotland who married a young woman who lived in "Tywern". We do
not know her name. Anne married William Jones and is the mother of Francis
Jones - my father".
It is signed: Mary (Jones) Gailmard
If any of you have any information on this or any of the people mentioned,
please contact me at MSmith3030(a)aol.com
Thank you,
Pat Jones Smith
Check out "Keeping up with the JONES' "
http://www.hometown.aol.com/msmith3030/myhomepage/heritage.html
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http://home.clara.net/wfha/walespic/oldwales/jones.htm
Richard JONES & the Horeb Chapel
(Dwygyfylchi, Caernarfonshire)
Pictures and family history provided by
Pat Smith (née Jones) of St Louis, Missouri, USA
Someone asked if 6 Castle Square, Caernarfon, housed a tailor in 1871.
According to the census for that year it was a DRAPERS SHOP, so there might
well have been a tailor employed there. Unfortunately I cannot find the
original request for the information, so am not sure if it was on the this
particular forum so am sending it to all of them.
Megan P.S. let me know if you want anything further.