Hi MIchael.
Thank you for the info in this email. Actually your thoughts inspired me to
go back to FreeBMD which I hadn't used in a long time because of the number
of failed searches I used to get... But boy have they come a long way.
I have been fortunate to find marriages and even deaths for many of my
ancestors and hangers on.
I found Daniel Jenkins & Mary Ann Williams married in Neath so you are
correct to wonder whether he was still in BF in 1871, but I think he would
be, I guess I'll need to visit the archive in Port Talbot to check.
So I guess that my research in BF is done and thanks to you it was quick and
very painless. But I will remain on the list to see if I can help with
anything for a while at least.
God Bless
John.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael J Roberts" <mjroberts(a)glenwoods.freeserve.co.uk>
To: "John Jones" <genes(a)genesrus.org>; "Michael J Roberts"
<mjr.roberts(a)uk.com>; <WLS-GLAM-BRITONFERRY-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 2:30 PM
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Hi John,
Unfortunately the 1871 Census is not indexed so unless you know precisely
where Daniel lived it is difficult to track him down. His first born
Lyzod
was born 1875 in Morriston so its likely that Daniel was married 9 months
before that ! They could of course have had earlier children who died
shortly after birth. We know that Daniel was in Briton Ferry in 1861 and
Morriston in 1875 so in 1871 he could have been in either place or some
where else, probably where there was an iron works.
I had a look in the Square in Briton Ferry but could not find him there in
the 1871, but did not expect to, its unlikely that he would have boarded
at
the same place for ten years. Being possibly single, it makes it a little
more difficult to find him as you have to read each line rather than
family
groups.
You could try the Free BMD, you may be lucky and find his marriage and
his
death, this would give you a clue as the dates of these events.
Unfortunately I do not have the 1891 Census.
1881
Dwelling: 29 Dillwyn St
Census Place: Clase, Glamorgan, Wales
Source: FHL Film 1342290 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5353 Folio 15
Page
23
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Daniel JENKINS M 43 M Ystradgynlais, Brecknock, Wales
Rel: Head
Occ: Iron Bar Roller
Mary JENKINS M 35 F Morriston, Glamorgan, Wales
Rel: Wife
Lyzyzod JENKINS U 6 F Morriston, Glamorgan, Wales
Rel: Daur
Occ: Scholar
Mary Elizabeth JENKINS 7 m F Morriston, Glamorgan, Wales
Rel: Daur
I hope this helps,
Kind Regards,
Mike
( Penally Pembs )
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Jones" <genes(a)genesrus.org>
To: "Michael J Roberts" <mjr.roberts(a)uk.com>;
<WLS-GLAM-BRITONFERRY-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 12:35 PM
Subject: Re: [WLS-GLAM-BRIT] Just Subscribed
Hi Michael
Thank you for the warm welcome and that ultra fast reply :-)
I had had this census info at one point but lost it through a systems
crash,
but I'm wiser now lol.
You ask whether I have him on other census data? Well, I have him from
1841
up to (now) 1861..
Any chances of a lookup on the 1871 & 1891? Though I think he was married
by 1871. And I think he was already deceased by 1891.
He married (I think) a Mary (Ann) Williams before 1880 and moved to
Morriston at some point prior to the 1881 census.
The Thomas Jenkins in the same household in 1861 is possibly a relative
but
not a brother to Daniel. Daniel has a brother Thomas b. 1852 in Cwmafan
and
he is with his parents in Ystalyfera in 1861. Daniel's father was born in
Merthyr in 1814 so the Thomas listed could be a relative but that's pure
speculation and has no basis at this time as I haveb not found the
connection to Merthyr other than Daniel's father stating his birthplace as
Merthyr Tydfil in censuses.
I would be over the moon if he could be found in 1871 so thanks in advance
to anyone that can find him.
God Bless
John.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael J Roberts" <mjroberts(a)glenwoods.freeserve.co.uk>
To: <WLS-GLAM-BRITONFERRY-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 8:38 AM
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Hi John,
Welcome to the Briton Ferry list, yes it is quiet, a bit like Briton Ferry
these days.
Below is the information you requested, it's a possibility that Daniel was
accompanied by a brother Thomas, did he have one ?
4084 1861 CENSUS OF BRITON FERRY. R.G.9/4084, E.D.5.
> Piece: 4084 Folio: 062 Schedule: 080
>
> Address: THE SQUARE
>
> WILLIAMS MARGARET HD W 40 CARE OF HOUSE
>
> BRE YSTRADFELLTE (c1821)
>
> WILLIAMS VINCENT SO U 15 LAB.IRON WORKS
>
> GLA DOWLAIS (c1846)
>
> WILLIAMS JOHN SO - 13 LAB.IRON WORKS
>
> GLA BRITON FERRY (c1848)
>
> WILLIAMS CATHERINE DA - 10 SCHOLAR
>
> GLA BRITON FERRY (c1851)
>
> WILLIAMS WILLIAM SO - 6 SCHOLAR
>
> GLA BRITON FERRY (c1855)
>
> JENKINS THOMAS LG U 21 PUDDLER IRON WORKS
>
> GLA MERTHYR (c1840)
>
> JENKINS DANIEL LG U 23 BALLER IRON WORKS
>
> BRE YSTRADGYNLAIS (c1838)
>
> Have you found them on any other census ?
>
> "This lookup was made using material published by Glamorgan Family
> History
> Society, details of membership and their research service with a full
> list
> of published indexes and transcriptions for sale can be seen on
>
http://www.glamfhs.org/ "
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Mike
> ( Penally Pembs. )
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Jones" <genes(a)genesrus.org>
> To: <WLS-GLAM-BRITONFERRY-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 1:55 AM
> Subject: [WLS-GLAM-BRIT] Just Subscribed
>
>
> Hello All.
>
> Seams a quiet list but hopefully lots of info and help available :-)
>
> My name is John Jones, I live in Llanelli but am disabled which somewhat
> restricts my getting about so, travel to do my research is limited.
>
> I therefor turn to the various lists for initial help where and when
> available.
>
> My Interests in the Briton Ferry area are actually small as far as I know
> at
> this time.
>
> I have a Daniel JENKINS b 1838 in Ystradgynlais who lived in a boarding
> house or hotel in BF after splitting from his family, he had grown up
> with
> that family in Cwmafon by Port Talbot but when his parents decided to
> return
> to the Swansea valley he went his own way.
>
> I would be grateful if someone could find him on the 1861 census for BF.
>
> Well there's my intro and first lookup request.
>
> Thanks
>
> God Bless
>
> John Jones
>
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael J Roberts" <mjroberts(a)glenwoods.freeserve.co.uk>
To: <WLS-GLAM-BRITONFERRY-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 8:38 AM
Subject: Re: [WLS-GLAM-BRIT] Just Subscribed
> Hi John,
>
> Welcome to the Briton Ferry list, yes it is quiet, a bit like Briton
> Ferry
> these days.
>
> Below is the information you requested, it's a possibility that Daniel
> was
> accompanied by a brother Thomas, did he have one ?
>
> 4084 1861 CENSUS OF BRITON FERRY. R.G.9/4084, E.D.5.
>
> Piece: 4084 Folio: 062 Schedule: 080
>
> Address: THE SQUARE
>
> WILLIAMS MARGARET HD W 40 CARE OF HOUSE
>
> BRE YSTRADFELLTE (c1821)
>
> WILLIAMS VINCENT SO U 15 LAB.IRON WORKS
>
> GLA DOWLAIS (c1846)
>
> WILLIAMS JOHN SO - 13 LAB.IRON WORKS
>
> GLA BRITON FERRY (c1848)
>
> WILLIAMS CATHERINE DA - 10 SCHOLAR
>
> GLA BRITON FERRY (c1851)
>
> WILLIAMS WILLIAM SO - 6 SCHOLAR
>
> GLA BRITON FERRY (c1855)
>
> JENKINS THOMAS LG U 21 PUDDLER IRON WORKS
>
> GLA MERTHYR (c1840)
>
> JENKINS DANIEL LG U 23 BALLER IRON WORKS
>
> BRE YSTRADGYNLAIS (c1838)
>
> Have you found them on any other census ?
>
> "This lookup was made using material published by Glamorgan Family
> History
> Society, details of membership and their research service with a full
> list
> of published indexes and transcriptions for sale can be seen on
>
http://www.glamfhs.org/ "
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Mike
> ( Penally Pembs. )
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Jones" <genes(a)genesrus.org>
> To: <WLS-GLAM-BRITONFERRY-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 1:55 AM
> Subject: [WLS-GLAM-BRIT] Just Subscribed
>
>
> Hello All.
>
> Seams a quiet list but hopefully lots of info and help available :-)
>
> My name is John Jones, I live in Llanelli but am disabled which somewhat
> restricts my getting about so, travel to do my research is limited.
>
> I therefor turn to the various lists for initial help where and when
> available.
>
> My Interests in the Briton Ferry area are actually small as far as I know
> at
> this time.
>
> I have a Daniel JENKINS b 1838 in Ystradgynlais who lived in a boarding
> house or hotel in BF after splitting from his family, he had grown up
> with
> that family in Cwmafon by Port Talbot but when his parents decided to
> return
> to the Swansea valley he went his own way.
>
> I would be grateful if someone could find him on the 1861 census for BF.
>
> Well there's my intro and first lookup request.
>
> Thanks
>
> God Bless
>
> John Jones
>
>
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