Sorry - I also meant to add the link to the page describing the lead and
silver mines in this area (Gelli Fowler / Silver Rake / Waenbrodlas)
which seem to replicate the names of the dwellings adjacent to each
other on the 1871 page I have ?
http://www.cpat.org.uk/projects/longer/mines/18197.htm
Amanda
-----Original Message-----
From: butterfield_home(a)tiscali.co.uk
[mailto:butterfield_home@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: 09 March 2006 10:32
To: 'CLWYD-L(a)rootsweb.com'
Subject: RE: [CLWYD] 1861 census - ysceifiog
Carol , John
Thank you for your responses to my message
I do not know if Abel Williams + family were at Silver Rake in 1861, but
they were in Ysceifiog (given they married there and children born
there). All addresses I have are as follows(all Ysceifiog):
Pre 1853 marriage: Hannah Buly (father William Buly) at Penucharplwy,
Ysceifiog
1871 census : Silver Rake
Nov 1871: Llwyn y Cosyn
1881 census : Chwarel
1891 census : Prysan cottage
Carol - the copy of the 1871 census I was shown shows the following
neighbouring families / properties (RG10 / 5642)together on a page in
civil parish of "Ysceifiog - Penucharplwy":
Gelli fowler (?) : Williams
Silver Rake : Davies
Llwyn y cosyn:Edwards
Llwyn y Cosyn :Richard
Chwarel : Hughes
Silver Rake: WILLIAMS
Silver rake : Buly
Waen Birdlas : Blackwell
Warn Birdlas: Griffiths
Waen Birdlas: Jones
So it looks like there were several houses sharing the name Silver Rake,
and also that my Williams family moved between several properties close
to each other over the years
Amanda
-----Original Message-----
From: Carol Cross [mailto:cacrosswales@hotmail.com]
Sent: 08 March 2006 21:05
To: CLWYD-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: RE: [CLWYD] 1861 census - ysceifiog
Dear Amanda,
Silver Rake was my mothers home----I have details of my Davies family
living
there from 1750 to when my uncle sold it in about 1990.We still have
relatives living in the Ysceifiog area.I cannot find a link with your
Williams family to Silver Rake.Could your family live in the area of
Silver
Rake?
Carol
From: <butterfield_home(a)tiscali.co.uk>
Reply-To: CLWYD-L(a)rootsweb.com
To: CLWYD-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [CLWYD] 1861 census - ysceifiog
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 17:27:43 -0000
I am trying to find this family in 1861 - details shown are in 1871
census
Silver Rake, Ysceifiog
Abel Williams Head 40 Halkyn, Flint
Hannah Wife 40 Ysceifiog, Flint
John 14 Ysceifiog, Flint Ag labourer
William 11 Ysceifiog, Flint Ag labourer
Thank you for your help
Amanda
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