Sharon,
Notice that Elizabeth married Robert Roberts.
I only have information on Capt. John Williams (Jr.) and his parents John
& Mary Williams of Llanddulas.
These are the known children of Capt. JOHN WILLIAMS (Jr.):
1)MARY JANE WILLIAMS - b. 1852 Liverpool; m. G. M. HUGHES 1874
(Her mother was Mary Jones,)
2)JAMES WILLIAMS - b. 1853-1861 (not on Amlwch census for 1861)
(His mother --unknown)
The below are the children of Mary Griffith probably.
3)JOHN G.WILLIAMS - b. 1864 Amlwch - became a seaman (?)
4)WILLIAM WILLIAMS- B. 1865 Amlwch (became a joiner)
5)THOMAS R. WILLIAMS - b. 1869 Amlwch
PARENTS OF CAPT. JOHN WILLIAMS (Jr.):
1841 Census, Tai'n y Llan, Llanddulas:
Mary Williams, 45
Jane Williams, 15, miliner's (sic) ass (i.e. assistant)
Mary Williams, 13
Elizabeth Williams, 6
William Williams, 3
(All born in county) [father John Williams is believed to have been a
mariner at sea]
The baptisms of the other children in this family read as follows:
May 22nd 1825: Jane, daughter of John and Mary Williams of Tyn (sic) y
Wal,Labourer [he might have later gone to sea]
June 8th 1830: Mary, daughter of John and Mary Williams, Llan (i.e.
Llanddulas), Labourer
1851 Census Llanddulas, Tai'n y Wall
John Williams, Head, Mar, 55, Grocer, born Abergele
Mary Williams, Wife, 54, born Abergele
Mary Williams, Daur, U, 22, Grocer's Assistant, born Abergele
Williams Williams, Son, U, 13, Scholar, born Abergele
The ages all tie up to the birthplace of their son (John Williams master
mariner, b. 1822 Llanddulas) )and I wonder whether Abergele is given as
the birthplace because Llanddulas is near Abergele, but it seems a bit
odd.
1861 Census records for Llanddulas missing
1871 Census Llanddulas, Moranedd
John Williams, Head, Mar, 75, Retired grocer, born Abergele
Mary Williams, Wife, Mar, 63 (a mistake?) born Denbighshire, St George's
(It seems from the census that St George's is the next parish so maybe
that is where they were married.)
I can't find them in 1881 so they may be dead by then.
Sacred to the memory / of / Mary wife of John Williams / Ty'n y Wal she
died Septembr / 25th 1862 Aged 66 years / also John Williams who died /
Nov 12th 1871 Aged 76 years.
The date of this John Williams' death Nov 12th 1871 and the entry in the
Burial Register - buried Nov 16th 1871 seems to confirm that it is the
right gravestone and that wife Mary, predeceased him.
This causes more confusion as on the 1871 Census included "Mary Williams
- wife - age 63". If the inscription is correct then I can only assume
that John Williams may have re-married [ another Mary! ] sometime between
the death of his first wife, in 1862 and the date of the 1871
Betty
From: <sharon.brown2(a)tesco.net>
To: WLS-DENBIGHSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 13:26:44 +0000
Subject: Re: [DEN] Elizabeth Williams 20 Spinster Penyllan Father: John
Williams Master Mariner
Hi do you have any other information on the williams family. mine
came
from betws-yn-rhos which is near abergele
best wishes
sharon
From: "Betty A. Pace" <bapace2(a)juno.com>
Date: 2006/02/06 Mon PM 06:59:51 GMT
To: WLS-DENBIGHSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [DEN] Elizabeth Williams 20 Spinster Penyllan Father: John
Williams Master
Mariner
Marriage : 20th June 1856 No. 48 after Banns --probably St. Cynbryd's
in
Llanddulas, Denbighshire
Robert ROBERTS Age 24 Bachelor Joiner Penybryn, Llanelian Father:
Thomas
Roberts Joiner
Elizabeth WILLIAMS 20 Spinster Penyllan Father: John Williams Master
Mariner
Witresses: Sylvanus F. Evans and JOHN WILLIAMS (probably Capt. John
Williams, Jr.)
Elizabeth Williams was the daughter of John & Mary Williams of
Llanddulas
& Abergele. Elizabeth had a brother named John Williams Jr. ,
mariner
(b.1821-22Llanddulas, m. Mary Jones 1851 & Mary Griffith 1860 ); Jane
(m.Thomas DAVIES ); Mary Williams; and WilliamWilliams. John Williams
Jr. became a master mariner. Mary and William Williams may have been
born. in Abergele.
Betty Pace
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