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Are there any kind souls out there who have access to 1871 and 1891 Censuses for Corwen Registration District and would search for entries for the following family:
Thomas OWEN (b. 1831/32 ? Llangwm), farmer
and his wife Jane OWEN (b. 1833/34 ? Llangwm)
together with various children including Owen (b. 1870/71), David (b. abt 1873), Hugh (b.1875), William (abt.1878).
In the 1881 Census this family were living at Tai Ucha, (Cerrig Y Druidion) Cwm, Denbigh.
I would be most grateful for your help.
Lesly
Hi there Shelia, I have used the following sites:
www.britannia.com/celtic/wales/language.htmlwww.gwybodiadur.tripod.com/resource.htm#courseswww.cs.brown.edu/fun/welsh
hope they help,
regards
Cahryl.
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From: <CloughGen(a)aol.com>
To: <WLS-DENBIGHSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 12:19 AM
Subject: [DEN] Welsh Language...
> Dear Listers,
>
> Finding aides in learning the Welsh language seem difficult, at best, here
in
> the US. Please advise on where I may obtain good tapes/CD's to help learn
> Welsh. I have yet to find a book that explains the pronunciation of Welsh
> words - they just list the Welsh words and the English equivalent. And, I
> have yet to find any tapes/CD's that walk you through Welsh like other
> languages. How maddening!
>
> You help his most appreciated! :-)
>
> Sheila
>
>
> ==== WLS-DENBIGHSHIRE Mailing List ====
> There is an excellent "tutorial" on Civil Registration at :
> http://home.clara.net/dixons/Certificates/indexbd.htm
>
>
>
Hi Sheila:
Could you use this URL perhaps?
Good luck.
Randi (Harrow)
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From: Leon [mailto:LGEDMUNDS@bigpond.com]
Sent: 12 September 2002 07:40
To: GLAMORGAN-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [GLA] English/Welsh/English.
Hi to all on list, thought many of you would be interested in the
following URL.This would be the answer to all Welsh/English translation
and or pronunciation questions. But may not the
Llanfairpwllgwyngychgogerichwrndrobwllllantisiliogogoggoch. Cheers for
now, Leon E , West Aus.
http://www.cs.brown.edu/fun/welsh/LexiconWE.html
______________________________
This is a multi-mail - so apologies for areas outside of yours.......but many
areas cross-over with boundary changes and also where she was born and then
migrated to.
Basic info from 1901 Census -
ANY advices on these girls would be much appreciated.
My great-grandmother was Emma (Elizabeth) Cartwright who married my
great-grandfather (Arthur Wakelam) in Birmingham 1903.
ALL EMMA CARTWRIGHT
Age 18 - Born Birmingham - living in Aston
Age 18 - Born Cradley - living in ditto
Age 18 - Born Dudley - living ditto
Age 19 - Born Wolverhampton - living in Bushbury
Age 20 - Born W. Brom - living Balsall Heath
Age 20 - Born Tipton - living ditto
(Emmie) Age 21 Born Dudley - living in ditto
Age 22 - Born Glossop - living ditto
Age 22 - Born Buckley - living Edgbaston (**particularly interested in this
one)
Age 23 - Born Brierley Hill - living ditto
Age 24 - Born Wem - living Audlem
Many thanks :o)
Jennifer in Devon
Searching: WAKELAM matrilineal line.
Still searching............
Can somebody please advise if there is a George Cartwright age between 20-35
in Denbigshire for this census.
Many thanks
Jennifer in Devon
Searching: WAKELAM matrilineal line.
Anwylyd Listers ,
I mewn 'm online chwilia achos Cymraeg aides ddes ar draws a website ble alla
ca rhyw destun Cymreigiedig. Cefais hon destun cyfieithedig i mewn gobeithion
chan yn cymell Cymraeg areithwyr at chyfnertha 'm i mewn 'm hymchwil at ca 'n
addas Cymraeg yn dysgu aides. Ai alli chymorth 'm bydda iawn 'n ddiolchgar.
Sheila
Dear Listers,
In my online search for Welsh language aides I came across a website where I
can have some text translated into Welsh. I have had this text translated in
hopes of persuading Welsh speakers to help me in my quest to find suitable
Welsh learning aides. If you are able to assist me I will be very grateful.
Sheila
Jennifer,
There is no Emma Cartwright born Buckley around 1878/9 in the National
Index. However there is an Emma born 1876 in Birmingham who was a visitor to
a family in Nottingham. There is an Emily Cartwright born in Mold around the
correct year, living with her family at Mold.
Nothing better than those entries and the one found in Anglesey by another
reader.
Regards,
John
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From: <WakelamTree(a)aol.com>
To: <WLS-DENBIGHSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 12:54 PM
Subject: [DEN] 1881 census look-up please
> Emma Cartwright age about 2.
> Born in Buckley, Denbighshire.
> Could have been a visitor on Census day.
>
> Many thanks for any assistance.
>
> Jennifer in Devon
> Searching: WAKELAM matrilineal line.
>
>
> ==== WLS-DENBIGHSHIRE Mailing List ====
> The official Web pages for the National Library of Wales are at :
> http://www.llgc.org.uk/
>
>
Dear Listers,
Finding aides in learning the Welsh language seem difficult, at best, here in
the US. Please advise on where I may obtain good tapes/CD's to help learn
Welsh. I have yet to find a book that explains the pronunciation of Welsh
words - they just list the Welsh words and the English equivalent. And, I
have yet to find any tapes/CD's that walk you through Welsh like other
languages. How maddening!
You help his most appreciated! :-)
Sheila
Dear Jennifer,
This is the only one I could find in 1881 that is close. Hope it is the
one. Regards
Doris Roberts-Florida
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From: <WakelamTree(a)aol.com>
To: <WLS-DENBIGHSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 7:54 AM
Subject: [DEN] 1881 census look-up please
> Emma Cartwright age about 2.
> Born in Buckley, Denbighshire.
> Could have been a visitor on Census day.
>
> Many thanks for any assistance.
>
> Jennifer in Devon
> Searching: WAKELAM matrilineal line.
>
>
> Dwelling: Mill Bank Terrace
Census Place: Holyhead, Anglesey, Wales
Source: FHL Film 1342344 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5595 Folio 17
Page 34
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Edward CARTWRIGHT M 34 M Shropshire, England
Rel: Head
Occ: Laborer
Mary CARTWRIGHT M 32 F Coedanau, Anglesey, Wales
Rel: Wife
Elizabeth C. CARTWRIGHT U 7 F Holyhead, Anglesey, Wales
Rel: Daug
Alice CARTWRIGHT U 5 F Holyhead, Anglesey, Wales
Rel: Daug
Emma CARTWRIGHT U 3 F Holyhead, Anglesey, Wales
Rel: Daug
Mary CARTWRIGHT U 1 F Holyhead, Anglesey, Wales
Rel: Daug
>
Hi Listers,
I have discovered two brothers of my grandmother, John & Isaac Evans, living
at Pen Y Coed Erryrys in 1901 census. Both were unmarried. I am interested
in any information about these two people.
regards
John Price
Emma Cartwright age about 2.
Born in Buckley, Denbighshire.
Could have been a visitor on Census day.
Many thanks for any assistance.
Jennifer in Devon
Searching: WAKELAM matrilineal line.
Dear Dahlis Marie (lovely name)
Thank you so much for your very swift reply and for the entry from the 1881
Census showing Thomas OWENS (49yrs), b.Llangwm, wife Jane and family
(including Hugh, 6yrs) at:
Address: Tai Ucha, (Cerrig Y Drudion) Cwm, Denbigh
[FHL film 1342330 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5539 Folio15 Page 8]
I have seen this extract previously and I have sent for Hugh's birth
certificate (on the strength of an entry in the 1901 Census) to see if it
ties in as I was a bit concerned about OWEN and OWENS ........ i.e. whether
it would be the same family.
I am hoping that someone "out there" is also researching this family and
will be able to "put some flesh on the bones".
I really do appreciate your kindness
Lesly
Many thanks for replying and for the advice... and yes I have joined the
Clwyd list (but only just!).
Lesly
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From: "Nia Thomas" <nia980(a)hotmail.com>
To: <leslyfinn(a)actrix.co.nz>
Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 9:10 AM
Subject: Re: [DEN] Thomas and Hugh OWEN - seaarching for needles in a
Haystack!!!
> Annwyl Lesly
>
> You'll probably have more advice on how to proceed with you research if
you
> subscribe to the Clwyd list which is a lot busier than this one.
>
> Pob hwyl
>
> Nia Thomas
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "leslyfinn" <leslyfinn(a)actrix.co.nz>
> >Reply-To: "leslyfinn" <leslyfinn(a)actrix.co.nz>
> >To: WLS-DENBIGHSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com
> >Subject: [DEN] Thomas and Hugh OWEN - seaarching for needles in a
> >Haystack!!!
> >Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 08:26:34 +1300
> >
> >CAN ANYONE HELP!
> >
> >I am trying to find my grandfather's family. He was Hugh OWEN, born abt
> >1875 in Cerrigydrudion, Denbighshire (according to the 1901 Census list).
> >
> >His father was a farmer called Thomas OWEN (Denbighshire), who died
before
> >1902.
> >
> >Hugh m. Elizabeth Ellen JONES, (b. abt 1880 in Corwen) in Everton,
> >Liverpool in 1902. .
> >
> >After the marriage they lived in W. Derby, where they had two sons,
Thomas
> >OWEN b. abt 1904 and Hugh OWEN b.1907.
> >
> >Hugh OWEN (Snr) died in a road accident in the Conwy area of Wales
sometime
> >around 1911.
> >
> >Has anyone any information that links in with any of these people?
> >Many thanks
> >Lesly
> >
> >RESEARCHING: OWEN, JONES, SPARKS, CLEARY, FINN (Kent).
> >
> >
> >==== WLS-DENBIGHSHIRE Mailing List ====
> >The official Web pages for the Federation of Family History Societies are
> >at :
> > http://www.ffhs.org.uk/
>
>
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CAN ANYONE HELP!
I am trying to find my grandfather's family. He was Hugh OWEN, born abt 1875 in Cerrigydrudion, Denbighshire (according to the 1901 Census list).
His father was a farmer called Thomas OWEN (Denbighshire), who died before 1902.
Hugh m. Elizabeth Ellen JONES, (b. abt 1880 in Corwen) in Everton, Liverpool in 1902. .
After the marriage they lived in W. Derby, where they had two sons, Thomas OWEN b. abt 1904 and Hugh OWEN b.1907.
Hugh OWEN (Snr) died in a road accident in the Conwy area of Wales sometime around 1911.
Has anyone any information that links in with any of these people?
Many thanks
Lesly
RESEARCHING: OWEN, JONES, SPARKS, CLEARY, FINN (Kent).
Hello All,
I would like to hear from anyone who may have connections with my g.grandfather Thomas MATTHEWS,
born September 8, 1849 at Llanferres,Denbighshire.He married Ellen (Ellin) Morris,born March 19, 1850 at Maentwrog,Merionethshire,Wales.They were living near Mold at the time of the 1881 census then moved to Co.Durham
where my grandfather Thomas MATTHEWS was born October 15, 1882 at 22 Maria Street,Tunstall,Sunderland,Co. Durham,England.
TIA,
Derick Smith.
Redcar,
Cleveland,
England.
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Hello All,
I would like to hear from anyone who has any connections to my g.grandmother Ellen (Ellin) MORRIS,
born March 19, 1850 at Maentwrog,Merionethshire.She married Thomas Matthews born September 8, 1849 at
Llanferres,Denbighshire, Wales. They moved to Co.Durham,England about 1881.
TIA,
Derick Smith
Redcar,Cleveland,
England.
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I am trying to find out about my grandfather's family. He was Hugh OWEN, born abt 1875 in Cerrigydrudion, Denbighshire (according to the 1901 Census list).
All I know about him is that his father was a farmer called Thomas OWEN of Denbighshire, who had died by the time of Hugh's marriage in Everton, Liverpool in 1902.
Hugh m. Elizabeth Ellen JONES, (b. abt 1880 in Corwen, Merionethshire). After the marriage they lived in W. Derby.
They had two sons, Thomas OWEN b. abt 1904 and Hugh OWEN b.1907.
Hugh OWEN (Snr) died in a road accident in the Conwy area of Wales sometime around 1911.
Has anyone any information that links in with any of these people? I hope that someone will be able to help me.
Many thanks
Lesly
Hello Fellow Listers!
My name is Sheila Andersen. I am an American who loves northern Wales and
brand new to this list. I wish to introduce myself because I am continuing
my search for descendants of Richard Clough Yr Hen, a glover of 16th century
Denbigh, and his sons, including Sir Richard Clough - merchant and agent to
Sir Thomas Gresham. Besides this, I am looking for ancestry information on
Richard Clough Yr Hen.
I descend from John Clough who sailed from London in April 1635 on the ship
'Elizabeth' and started his new life in Salisbury, Massachusetts.
Descendants of his created the 'John Clough Genealogical Society' back in the
1930s and I have had the privilege of being their genealogist for the past 6
years.
Our problem has always been that our John Clough did not leave any
information concerning his ancestry. So, last year we enlisted the help of
Oxford Ancestors, Ltd. in order to have some Y-Line DNA analysis done. To
make a long story short - the Y-Line DNA analysis results from a man who is a
direct male descendant of Sir Richard Clough through his illegitimate son,
Richard, and the Y-Line DNA analysis results of a man who is a direct male
descendant of our John Clough matched exactly. At least we now know that we
are genetically linked to the Richard Clough Yr Hen family of 16th century
Denbigh, but we have no idea how.
I have some information on the descendants of Sir Richard Clough (mostly
gathered from a very large book of pedigree's in the possession of the Ruthin
Records Office and certain family members) but I am looking for as much
information as possible on his family - his brothers descendants, his sisters
descendants, his father's ancestry information, etc.
I am also looking for individuals connected to this family to please contact
me since I am once again leading a group of American Clough family members to
northern Wales in September 2003 and we would love to meet as many family
members as possible. We should be staying for a night or two at Portmeirion,
built by Clough Williams-Ellis, a descendant of Sir Richard Clough, and
spending some time with the Williams-Ellis family members that descend from
Sir Richard Clough. Dr. Bryan Sykes, geneticist at Oxford University and
creator of Oxford Ancestors, Ltd., has agreed to meet with my group while we
are at Portmeirion, so I would like the opportunity of personally inviting
family members to join us if they would please contact me.
In addition, I am looking for individuals living in northern Wales who still
carry the Clough surname to please contact me whether they think they might
be connected to this family or not.
I hope I have not overwhelmed you or overstepped any boundaries set up for
this list. I am very happy to be a member of this list and I look forward to
hearing from list members about my query! :-)
Best Wishes to All!
Sheila Andersen
Genealogist
John Clough Genealogical Society
CloughGen(a)aol.com
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