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Dear Listers,
I've just uploaded a new set of thirty 'Images of Wales' pictures onto
my website.
The feature illustrates the wide variety of colourful wild flowers found
in the hedgerows, fields, and woods in south-west and mid Wales, in the
late winter, spring and summer.
I have tried my best to identify the flowers correctly, but I am not an
expert on wild flowers. If you think I have wrongly identified any of
the specimens, please let me know by e-mail and I will rectify the
error(s).
Each webpage contains 10 images and may be slow to download via a
dial-up Internet connection.
'Images of Wales' is at http://home.clara.net/wfha/walespic/
Enjoy!! :o)
Best wishes,
John
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John Ball, Ystalyfera, South Wales, UK
E-mail: wfha(a)clara.co.uk
Homepage: http://home.clara.net/wfha/
Welsh Family History Archive (WFHA): http://home.clara.net/wfha/wales/
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Does anyone on the list have access to the Parish Registers for Llanfihangel Nant Bran? I am in need of a look-up for William WILLIAMS who was born there in 1820/1821.
Thank you. Judith in the U.S.
Friends
My Name interests are as follows - in the hopes that the brief information
with each just might strike a chord with GB and USA listers. Please just
look at the name and/or location that may connect with you or yours.
It certainly isa way of learning 'social history'. I wonder why the earlier
school masters and mistresses didn't recognise this genealogy [or Family
Tree] stuff as a carrier for teaching social history, and why it is still
not in use, in all UK schools.
MATERNAL - NAMES GB etc.
AMESBURY - from 1805 in Mangotsfield, Gloucestershire to Bristol.
BAGLEY - from 1820's Easor[?Eastnor] in Herefordshire England, to Pipton,
Talgarth, Hay, Breconshire, Wales.
BROOKS - St. George, Bristol.
COLEMAN - from ca.1780's Frome, Somersetshire, to Bristol.
COX - from 1790 in Stoke Gifford, Gloucestershire to Bristol
DEACON/DEAKIN - from 1830 in Wellington, Salop' to Bedwas, Glamorganshire.
HILL - from 1770 Bristol to 'as yet unknown'
GOOD - from 1639 Bristol to 'as yet unknown'
GREENAWAY - 1809 - unknown.
JOHNS - from Stanton Drew, Somersetshire, to Bristol.
LAW - from 18th Century Beverstone, Gloucestershire to Bristol.
MATTHEWS - Query - Waters Upton, Shropshire, England.
MORRIS - from 1830's in Waters Upton Shropshire.
NEALE - from ca.1790 in Coalpit Heath, Gloucestershire to Bristol.
NORTHAM - from 1837 Bristol to 'as yet unknown'
RABLE - from 1780 Bristol to 'as yet unknown'
ROCK - from 1660's Bristol to 'as yet unknown'
RUSSETT - from 'as yet unknown' to 17th Century Bristol.
SMITH - from 1809 in Bristol to 'as yet unknown'
SWAIN - from 18th Century Evercreech, Somersetshire, to Bristol
THOMAS - from ca. 1640 "Newchurch, in ye County of Monmouth"
WALL - from 1830's in Chapel Allerton, Somersetshire to Bristol.
WILLIAMS - from 1820's Builth to Llandefalle in Brecknock, Breconshire
WITHEY - from 18th Century Westbury, Wiltshire to Bristol.
PATERNAL - NAMES USA etc.
BARBA[s]CH - Kiev in Russian-Germany to New York, USA
BOENSKA - Poland to USA
COHEN - from Jerusalem to Ramatgan, Israel & New York, USA
DWORSKA - Poland to USA
REIGLER - from Europe & Jerusalem to New York, USA
REINER - from Europe & Jerusalem to New York, USA
SZYTKO/SITKO - Poland to USA
TOPOLSKI - Poland to USA
WIEZEL/WEISEL - from Czechoslowakia to New York USA
WESOLOWSKI - Poland to USA
ZANDER/ZANDAR - from Europe & Jerusalem to New York, USA
ZAREK - from Ruda, Prussia/Poland to Pennsylvania & New York. USA.
ZUCHOWSKA - Poland to USA
ZUSSMAN - from Ramatgan Israel to New York USA
Many thanks - if you reached this far you deserve a ' Gert big cuppa teee,
wiv' a chocci biscit'.
Bye for now,
Granny Giggles
from the Original Bristol.
My Name interests are as follows - in the hopes that the brief information
with each just might strike a chord with GB and USA listers. Please just
look at the name and/or location that may connect with you or yours.
It certainly isa way of learning 'social history'. I wonder why the earlier
school masters and mistresses didn't recognise this genealogy [or Family
Tree] stuff as a carrier for teaching social history, and why it is still
not in use, in all UK schools.
MATERNAL - NAMES GB etc.
AMESBURY - from 1805 in Mangotsfield, Gloucestershire to Bristol.
BAGLEY - from 1820's Easor[?Eastnor] in Herefordshire England, to Pipton,
Talgarth, Hay, Breconshire, Wales.
BROOKS - St. George, Bristol.
COLEMAN - from ca.1780's Frome, Somersetshire, to Bristol.
COX - from 1790 in Stoke Gifford, Gloucestershire to Bristol
DEACON/DEAKIN - from 1830 in Wellington, Salop' to Bedwas, Glamorganshire.
HILL - from 1770 Bristol to 'as yet unknown'
GOOD - from 1639 Bristol to 'as yet unknown'
GREENAWAY - 1809 - unknown.
JOHNS - from Stanton Drew, Somersetshire, to Bristol.
LAW - from 18th Century Beverstone, Gloucestershire to Bristol.
MATTHEWS - Query - Waters Upton, Shropshire, England.
MORRIS - from 1830's in Waters Upton Shropshire.
NEALE - from ca.1790 in Coalpit Heath, Gloucestershire to Bristol.
NORTHAM - from 1837 Bristol to 'as yet unknown'
RABLE - from 1780 Bristol to 'as yet unknown'
ROCK - from 1660's Bristol to 'as yet unknown'
RUSSETT - from 'as yet unknown' to 17th Century Bristol.
SMITH - from 1809 in Bristol to 'as yet unknown'
SWAIN - from 18th Century Evercreech, Somersetshire, to Bristol
THOMAS - from ca. 1640 "Newchurch, in ye County of Monmouth"
WALL - from 1830's in Chapel Allerton, Somersetshire to Bristol.
WILLIAMS - from 1820's Builth to Llandefalle in Brecknock, Breconshire
WITHEY - from 18th Century Westbury, Wiltshire to Bristol.
PATERNAL - NAMES USA etc.
BARBA[s]CH - Kiev in Russian-Germany to New York, USA
BOENSKA - Poland to USA
COHEN - from Jerusalem to Ramatgan, Israel & New York, USA
DWORSKA - Poland to USA
REIGLER - from Europe & Jerusalem to New York, USA
REINER - from Europe & Jerusalem to New York, USA
SZYTKO/SITKO - Poland to USA
TOPOLSKI - Poland to USA
WIEZEL/WEISEL - from Czechoslowakia to New York USA
WESOLOWSKI - Poland to USA
ZANDER/ZANDAR - from Europe & Jerusalem to New York, USA
ZAREK - from Ruda, Prussia/Poland to Pennsylvania & New York. USA.
ZUCHOWSKA - Poland to USA
ZUSSMAN - from Ramatgan Israel to New York USA
Many thanks - if you reached this far you deserve a ' Gert big cuppa teee,
wiv' a chocci biscit'.
Bye for now,
Granny Giggles
from the Original Bristol.
Hello Hazel
This looks like the family - which I found by checking the 1881 census and noting that two
of the children were born in Sirhowy at about the right time. [I have found that tracking the
birthplaces of children listed in a later census will often reveal the family in an earlier one].
1851 census
HO107/2448 Folio 818
36 Roseland Row, Sirhowy Iron Works, MON
GAMESON, Thomas, HD, M, 44, Brickmaker, BRE Beaufort
Harriet, Wife, 37, GLA Merthyr Tydfil
John, SO, 20, Brickmaker, MON Varteg
William, SO, 18, Brickmaker, "
Mary, DA, 16, At Home, "
Margaret, DA, 14, Brickmaking, "
Elizabeth, DA, 11, Scholar at home, "
Thomas, SO, 9, Scholar at home, BRE Beaufort
Ann, DA, 4, " "
James, SO, 2, Infant at home, MON Sirhowy
Pam
in New Zealand
Hazel <SWLady123(a)aol.com> asked:
<<Can a kind soul help me with an 1851 Census look-up please?
Thomas Gameson b: 1843 Beaufort, Brecknock>>
Hazel <SWLady123(a)aol.com> asked:
<<Can a kind soul help me with an 1851 Census look-up please?
Thomas Gameson b: 1843 Beaufort, Brecknock>>
Hi Hazel!
Sorry, but the surname Gameson does not appear in the Index to the Powys FHS
transcription of the 1851 Census of Breconshire, and appears only once in
their 1861 transcription:
======================================================================
1861 BRE Census (Powys FHS transcription) - ED: Brecon - SD: Brecon
Parish: Cantref - Dwelling: Pencafadog
PRO Ref RG9 - Piece 4211 - Folios 32&33 - Pages 2&3
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[head is absent]
GAMESON Mary wife m 24 farmer's wife CMN Llandingad
GAMESON Henry James son - 04 ---------- MON Trevethin
GAMESON Morgan Thos son - 04 ---------- MON Trevethin
WILLIAMS Mary Ann svnt u 18 house servant MON Trevethin
JONES John svnt u 20 carter BRE St David
JONES Henry svnt u 24 farm bailiff HEF not known
======================================================================
Surprisingly, the surname Jameson doesn't appear (it was just a thought!)
apart from a 50 year old housekeeper, Hannah JAMSON from RAD 'Cwndauddwr' in
LLanwrthwl Parish in 1851.
Perhaps Thomas GAMESON is in that part of Beaufort which was already
enumerated under Monmouthshire in 1851 & 1861?
In the meantime, the closest match found in Breconshire is Thomas GAMES,
born abt. 1842/3
Below is his more immediate family. If you feel this is your man, then
there are a few other households (about half the GAMES in Breconshire) that
would seem to be close relatives.
======================================================================
1851 BRE Census - ED: Crickhowell
PRO Ref HO107 - Piece 2490 - Folio 039 - Pages 6&7
Parish: Llanfihangel Cwm-du - Dwelling: Myarth
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GAMES David head m 35 woodman BRE Cwmdu
GAMES Margaret wife m 35 ---------- BRE Cwmdu
GAMES Thomas son u 08 scholar BRE Cwmdu
GAMES Gwenllian daur u 06 scholar BRE Cwmdu
GAMES David son u 03 ---------- BRE Cwmdu
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GAMES William head m 70 ag lab BRE Cwmdu
GAMES Mary wife m 65 ---------- BRE Llandefalle
GAMES Mary * daur u 27 ---------- BRE Cwmdu
GAMES Howell * vstr m 35 collier BRE Cwmdu
GAMES Mary * gdau u 03 ---------- MON Mynyddislwyn
======================================================================
* = not found in 1861 Breconshire Census
======================================================================
1861 BRE Census (Powys FHS transcription) - ED: Crickhowell
PRO Ref RG9 - Piece 4214 - Folio 040 - Page 02
SD: Llanfihangel Cwmdu - Parish: Tretower - Dwelling: Heoldraw Cottage
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GAMES David head m 45 woodward BRE Cwmdu,
GAMES Margaret wife m 45 ---------- BRE Trallong
GAMES Gwenllian daur u 16 scholar BRE Cwmdu
GAMES David son u 14 scholar BRE Cwmdu
GAMES Elizabeth daur - 09 scholar BRE Cwmdu
======================================================================
======================================================================
1861 BRE Census (Powys FHS transcription) - ED: Crickhowell
PRO Ref RG9 - Piece 4214 - Folio 040 - Page 02
SD: Llanfihangel Cwmdu - Parish: Tretower - Dwelling: Deers Park
----------------------------------------------------------------------
GAMES William head m 80 ag lab BRE Cwmdu
GAMES Mary wife m 73 ---------- BRE Defynnog
GAMES Benjamin * son u 34 ag lab BRE Cwmdu
======================================================================
* = not found in 1851 Breconshire Census
======================================================================
1861 BRE Census - ED: Crickhowell - SD: Crickhowell
Parish: Llanbedr - Dwelling: Gutter
PRO Ref RG9 - Piece 4222 - Folio 062 - Page 01
----------------------------------------------------------------------
SAUNDERS Elizabeth head w 68 farmer 120ac BRE Scethrog
POWELL John svnt u 61 carter BRE Scethrog
PRITCHARD David svnt u 45 ag lab BRE Talgarth
EVANS John svnt u 21 ag lab BRE Llanbedr
GAMES Thomas svnt u 17 ag lab BRE Cwmdu
MORGAN Margaret svnt u 19 dairymaid BRE Crickhowell
======================================================================
If you want the details for the other GAMES households, let me know.
Best wishes!
Kate.
Hi....Hazel
No Gameson names on the Brecknock or Glamorgan 1851 census's
There is this one on the 1851 census in Brecknock
GAMES, Thomas, s, u, 8, scholar, BRE Cwmdu, Myarth, 90/f39/p6
Best wishes....Jack
----- Original Message -----
From: <SWLady123(a)aol.com>
To: <WLS-BRECONSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 8:49 PM
Subject: [WLS-BRE] Thos. GAMESON b. 1843 Brec
> Can a kind soul help me with an 1851 Census look-up please?
>
> Thomas Gameson b: 1843 Beaufort, Brecknock
>
> Thanks...Hazel
>
Hi All,
I have noted on several occasions lately that the names and details of
living persons have been mentioned on the lists.
In some cases this has been by people who are obviously new to genealogy.
Can I remind people that details of people who are, or might be, still
alive should not be posted to Rootsweb lists. In part this is to protect
their privacy, but also their security - the list archives are publicly
accessible.
Some lists operate a "hundred year" rule similar to that of census
information. I don't plan to go that far, but would ask list members to
exercise some discretion in this matter.
Obviously this does not apply to email addresses of other researchers, but
even so contact details are best exchanged in private rather than public
correspondence.
Thanks for your cooperation,
Cheers,
Malcolm
--
Simon Atkin <satkin(a)dbgroup.co.uk> asked:
<<Can anyone help translate this (found on an MI) to English please?>>
They are translations of these standard phrases:
<<Yr Arglwydd a roddod a'r Arglwydd ddygodd ymaeth.>>
"The Lord giveth & the Lord taketh away."
<<Bendegedig yw enw yr Arglwydd.>>
"Blessed is the name of the Lord."
with a few spelling or typographical mistakes - said the non-Welsh speaker!
Hope this helps!
Kate.
Can anyone help translate this (found on an MI) to English please?
Yr Arglwydd a roddod a'r Arglwydd
ddygodd ymaeth. Bendegedig yw enw yr Arglwydd.
Thanks,
Simon Atkin
In a message dated 06/08/2003 15:37:04 GMT Daylight Time,
satkin(a)dbgroup.co.uk writes:
> Yr Arglwydd a roddod a'r Arglwydd
> ddygodd ymaeth. Bendegedig yw enw yr Arglwydd.
>
Job 1:21
... the LORD gave, and the LORD hath taken away; blessed be the name of the
LORD.
Regards
Alwyn
Does anyone have information on the Walter Penry family of Breconshire S. Wales? I believe David Penry(may have been son of Walter Penry Sr.) with wife Mary Pugh came to Radnor, Ohio before 1810. Later around 1817 Walter Penry came with his other sons: Walter Jr.(b1779), William, Roger and Edward. Walter Jr. went back to Wales and picked up his sister Jane Penry Parry, widow of Uriah Parry. He then returned to Radnor with Jane and her two children. Her 3 older children had already come to Radnor with her brother William. Walter Sr. and his family were all born in Wales. Walter was married to Ann Davis supposedly the sister of a Bishop of South Wales and she died before he left Wales.
Connie Jones Maguire
I am researching CHAMBERS in Wales Elvery.Did your Chambers family come from
Wales by any chance?
regards,Jill
----- Original Message -----
From: "Elvery Chambers" <echamber(a)westnet.net.au>
To: <WLS-BRECONSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: 05 August 2003 00:56
Subject: [WLS-BRE] Place name
> I have the following birth place in the 1861 census ?Llantrabran - the ?
was added by the transcriber. Does anyone have any suggestions on what it
could be?
> Thanks
> Elvery Chambers
> Perth, Western Australia.
>
>
I have the following birth place in the 1861 census ?Llantrabran - the ? was added by the transcriber. Does anyone have any suggestions on what it could be?
Thanks
Elvery Chambers
Perth, Western Australia.
Elvery Chambers <echamber(a)westnet.net.au> wrote:
I have the following birth place in the 1861 census ?Llantrabran - the ?
was added by the transcriber. Does anyone have any suggestions on what
it could be?
===================
Dear Elvery,
Was the birth county indicated? If not, in what county was the census
address for the household containing the above birthplace?
You probably need to examine the microfilm of the original handwritten
entry, rather than relying on a transcriber's guesswork. All 19th
century censuses have been microfilmed and can be ordered for study at
any of the worldwide network of Family History Centres attached to
branches of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
We should always make it our policy routinely to study the original
document (or a microfilmed facsimile) even when the transcriber has not
indicated any problem.
Kind regards,
John
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John Ball, Ystalyfera, South Wales, UK
E-mail: wfha(a)clara.co.uk
Homepage: http://home.clara.net/wfha/
Welsh Family History Archive: http://home.clara.net/wfha/wales/
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Dear Listers,
This week's 'Retrospective Images of Wales', just uploaded onto my
website, features:
1. The 900-year-old Pembroke Castle in the county of Pembrokeshire.
This feature was first shown on 'Images of Wales'
in July 1999 (fourteen photos).
2. An exploration of the course of the River Tawe in the Swansea
Valley, from its source in the Brecon Beacons to its mouth in Swansea.
This feature was first shown on 'Images of Wales' in March 1998 (seven
photos).
To view the Retrospective webpages, go to
http://home.clara.net/wfha/walespic/retro/retro.htm
Enjoy!!
Best wishes,
John
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John Ball, Ystalyfera, South Wales, UK
E-mail: wfha(a)clara.co.uk
Homepage: http://home.clara.net/wfha/
Welsh Family History Archive (WFHA): http://home.clara.net/wfha/wales/
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