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Hi Linda, Why don't you try an email to the Gwynedd Archives in Caernarvon or Dolgellau? I have an email address as: archives(a)gwynedd.gov.uk I have written them dozens of times, and have quite a few of the MARITIME WALES books written thru the 80s. They may have written a story on it; they have on hundreds of others. Barb G.
----- Original Message -----
From: Linda Jones
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 6:21 AM
To: WLS-ANGLESEY-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: RE: [ANG] Princess of Wales
My sister in law has a picture of a schooner called the Princess of Wales
which was registered in Amlwch Anglesey sometime during the early 1800's. It
was owned by William Roberts who I'm told, was related to the Jones family
of Tynywaen or Pensarn, Llaneilidan.
Anyone know anything about this ship?
Linda
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Hi Arlene
Thanks for your message. I take it you don't have any connections with the
family at the above addresses? I'm getting nowhere fast on these.
Linda
-----Original Message-----
From: Arlene Berta [mailto:aberta@surewest.net]
Sent: 14 September 2002 22:53
To: WLS-ANGLESEY-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [ANG] Tynywaen, Llaneilian / Pensarn, Llaneilian - Jones
Linda,
My great great grandfather and great grandfather lived in the same house on
the 1881 census, they are both listed as head of household, so it does
happen. I don't know why, but it does.
Arlene
----- Original Message -----
From: "Linda Jones" <linda(a)activeservice.co.uk>
To: <WLS-ANGLESEY-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 11:05 PM
Subject: RE: [ANG] Tynywaen, Llaneilian / Pensarn, Llaneilian - Jones
Hi Arlene
thanks for your reply. I agree that there were numerous places containing
more than one family, but generally each 'schedule' was individual to only
one, containing one 'head' of family and the rest showing their relationship
to that person.
Best wishes
Linda
-----Original Message-----
From: Arlene Berta [mailto:aberta@surewest.net]
Sent: 10 September 2002 19:23
To: WLS-ANGLESEY-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [ANG] Tynywaen, Llaneilian / Pensarn, Llaneilian - Jones
The two 'head' would indicate two families in the same home. Could be son
or son in law.
Arlene
----- Original Message -----
From: "Linda Jones" <linda(a)activeservice.co.uk>
To: <WLS-ANGLESEY-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 10:45 AM
Subject: RE: [ANG] Tynywaen, Llaneilian / Pensarn, Llaneilian - Jones
Hi All
I have the birth certificate for John Jones b 27 October 1876 in Tynywaen,
Llaneilian parents were William Jones and Ellen Jones formerly Williams.
John had siblings William, Mary, Grace and Roland (born about 1883)
In the 1841 census - I can only find a place called Tynywayn Sarn but in the
1901 census Tynywaen is there - complete with John Jones (student) living
with a Roberts family.
In 1881 the family seemed to be in Pensarn, Llaneilian - but there are two
families - two 'heads' of families.
Questions: Would Tynywaen and Tynywayn Sarn be the same place?
Does anyone have access to the 1851 or 1871 census or either Tynywaen,
Tynywayn Sarn, and/or Pensarn?
Is anyone else researching the same family?
Regards
Linda
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Betty,
They are just like our condominiums, which are just apartment buildings that
sell apartments. This is extremely common in large cities and the east
coast. Florida has many, as does NY, Chicago, LA and San Francisco.
All the units have their own thermostats, therefore pay for their own
utilities. They also charge a monthly fee for homeowners association which
generally covers building maintenance, cable TV, water and garbage. You own
the apartment, not the building, therefore any thing that goes wrong inside
of your apartment is your responsibility.
Lots of elderly people opt for this lifestyle, as do busy executives.
Arlene
----- Original Message -----
From: "Betty A. Pace" <bapace2(a)juno.com>
To: <WLS-ANGLESEY-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 11:52 PM
Subject: [ANG] Flat ownership or rental
I have just discovered that people in the U.K. buy flats/apartments.
Here in the U.S. generally we buy houses but rent apartments, paying a
monthly rental. How does this work in the U.K.? If you buy an apartment
in a building with other tenants, who pays for the heat? Plumbing
repairs? I was astounded by the below quote from an e-mail message
from London:
"Gwen's flat in Surrey was incredibly expensive - 146,000 pounds for a
two-bedroomed ground floor flat which needs a lot of work."
Betty Pace - Virginia, U.S.A.
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David,
Just catching up on my email. I have seen many grave stones in North Wales
with house names on them. It usually means the place they lived in at the
time of death. Have you sent for her death certificate to see where she
passed away? This could end the enigma.
Arlene Berta
----- Original Message -----
From: "David John" <djohn(a)tcd.ie>
To: <WLS-ANGLESEY-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 4:53 AM
Subject: [ANG] Dwelling name in 1901 Census
Hi!
I wonder if anyone can help with a dwelling name in the 1901 census. My
g-grandfather Evan Parry moved from Penmon to Llandegfan sometime between
1881 and 1901. The dwelling in the 1901 Census for Llandegfan was called
"Tyddin Bach." Does this translate as "small holding"? Also I have found
that my grandmother's gravestone in Llandegfan churchyard also bears the
inscription "Tyddin Bach." However, to my knowledge, she never lived in a
dwelling with this name. All very confusing! I am hoping that someone can
offer an explanation.
Regards,
David John
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I have just discovered that people in the U.K. buy flats/apartments.
Here in the U.S. generally we buy houses but rent apartments, paying a
monthly rental. How does this work in the U.K.? If you buy an apartment
in a building with other tenants, who pays for the heat? Plumbing
repairs? I was astounded by the below quote from an e-mail message
from London:
"Gwen's flat in Surrey was incredibly expensive - 146,000 pounds for a
two-bedroomed ground floor flat which needs a lot of work."
Betty Pace - Virginia, U.S.A.
Hi David
Tyddyn bach does indeed translate as small holding or dwelling.
But I cannot help with the other part of the mystery
Neil
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From: "David John" <djohn(a)tcd.ie>
To: <WLS-ANGLESEY-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 12:53 PM
Subject: [ANG] Dwelling name in 1901 Census
> Hi!
>
> I wonder if anyone can help with a dwelling name in the 1901 census. My
> g-grandfather Evan Parry moved from Penmon to Llandegfan sometime between
> 1881 and 1901. The dwelling in the 1901 Census for Llandegfan was called
> "Tyddin Bach." Does this translate as "small holding"? Also I have found
> that my grandmother's gravestone in Llandegfan churchyard also bears the
> inscription "Tyddin Bach." However, to my knowledge, she never lived in a
> dwelling with this name. All very confusing! I am hoping that someone can
> offer an explanation.
>
> Regards,
> David John
>
>
>
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>
Hi!
I wonder if anyone can help with a dwelling name in the 1901 census. My
g-grandfather Evan Parry moved from Penmon to Llandegfan sometime between
1881 and 1901. The dwelling in the 1901 Census for Llandegfan was called
"Tyddin Bach." Does this translate as "small holding"? Also I have found
that my grandmother's gravestone in Llandegfan churchyard also bears the
inscription "Tyddin Bach." However, to my knowledge, she never lived in a
dwelling with this name. All very confusing! I am hoping that someone can
offer an explanation.
Regards,
David John
Hello Arlene,
Thank you very much for your messages, your help is much appreciated, they
have been very useful and helpful and to see a picture of the ship was
great.
Regards,
Alison.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Arlene Berta" <aberta(a)surewest.net>
To: <WLS-ANGLESEY-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 6:51 AM
Subject: Re: [ANG] The Clio
> The Clio was a training ship. Parents must have threatened to send the
boys
> into training as seamen. What can we use today, Outward Bound on
Hurricane
> Island in Maine? :o)
> Arlene
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <WELSH53(a)aol.com>
> To: <WLS-ANGLESEY-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 6:23 PM
> Subject: [ANG] The Clio
>
>
> In my ref book "ships and Seamen of Anglesey" there is one reference to
the
> Clio
>
> ...The Bishop attributed this wecome improvement (...to preventing
> shipwrecks) in part to better training facilities for seamen, and paid
> tribute to the CLIO, "just in front of the windows of my house". Although
he
> did not say so, the Bishop must have known that to generations of local
> boys,
> the CLIO was a threat which irate parents hurled at them incases of
> misbehaviour, the ultimate sanction for undisiplined boys.........
>
> Not sure what all that means but that is the only reference.Please also
try
> the ship's list at:
> <A HREF="http://www.theshipslist.com/">TheShipsList Home Page-Passenger
> Lists, Passenger Ships, Shipwrecks</A>
> SUE
> Connecticut, USA
>
>
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Hi Roberta
The chapel you refer to is still in the village in which I live.
If you can supply more information or copies of the photograph i will see if
any one here knows more.
Neil Summers
In case you need a translaton it is :- Gorslwyd chapel.... My aunty WM
Jones's old chapel in rhosybol.
----- Original Message -----
From: <Prehistric(a)aol.com>
To: <WLS-ANGLESEY-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 6:09 PM
Subject: [ANG] Gorslwyd Chapel and Anglesey vehicle registration in the
early 1900s
> Greetings:
>
> I recently received three old family photos, taken in North Wales. They
are
> undated.
>
> One photo partially includes a vehicle and the registration EY121. Could
> anyone provide information about researching this vehicle registration?
>
> One photo is of a chapel and surrounding buildings. At the top of the
photo
> is a handwritten note, which reads, "Capel y Gorslwyd Rhos-y-bol,
Anglesea,
> North Wales Hen Gapel fy modryb WM Jones." Could anyone offer me
information
> about Gorslwyd Chapel?
>
> Many thanks, in advance
> Roberta
>
>
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Hi All
I have the birth certificate for John Jones b 27 October 1876 in Tynywaen,
Llaneilian parents were William Jones and Ellen Jones formerly Williams.
John had siblings William, Mary, Grace and Roland (born about 1883)
In the 1841 census - I can only find a place called Tynywayn Sarn but in the
1901 census Tynywaen is there - complete with John Jones (student) living
with a Roberts family.
In 1881 the family seemed to be in Pensarn, Llaneilian - but there are two
families - two 'heads' of families.
Questions: Would Tynywaen and Tynywayn Sarn be the same place?
Does anyone have access to the 1851 or 1871 census or either Tynywaen,
Tynywayn Sarn, and/or Pensarn?
Is anyone else researching the same family?
Regards
Linda
Greetings:
I recently received three old family photos, taken in North Wales. They are
undated.
One photo partially includes a vehicle and the registration EY121. Could
anyone provide information about researching this vehicle registration?
One photo is of a chapel and surrounding buildings. At the top of the photo
is a handwritten note, which reads, "Capel y Gorslwyd Rhos-y-bol, Anglesea,
North Wales Hen Gapel fy modryb WM Jones." Could anyone offer me information
about Gorslwyd Chapel?
Many thanks, in advance
Roberta
In my ref book "ships and Seamen of Anglesey" there is one reference to the
Clio
...The Bishop attributed this wecome improvement (...to preventing
shipwrecks) in part to better training facilities for seamen, and paid
tribute to the CLIO, "just in front of the windows of my house". Although he
did not say so, the Bishop must have known that to generations of local boys,
the CLIO was a threat which irate parents hurled at them incases of
misbehaviour, the ultimate sanction for undisiplined boys.........
Not sure what all that means but that is the only reference.Please also try
the ship's list at:
<A HREF="http://www.theshipslist.com/">TheShipsList Home Page-Passenger Lists, Passenger Ships, Shipwrecks</A>
SUE
Connecticut, USA
Hello everyone,
I have just discovered that my Wellstead family had moved to Llanfair, Anglesey in the 1901 census & were still there until 1929 at least..
Father Thomas was a coachman in service & the family have proved very elusive.
If anyone has a Wellstead on their tree or has come across any Wellstead's anywhere I would really like to hear from you!
Cheers.
Shirley
Hello
My mother was Elizabeth Ann Griffiths from Llithfaen . Her brother Capt.
Richard Griffiths was fairly well known in the area he died in Colwyn Bay .
Mother was born in 1894. Is there a connection ?
Best
Trevor Evans
----- Original Message -----
From: <WLS-ANGLESEY-D-request(a)rootsweb.com>
To: <WLS-ANGLESEY-D(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 2:06 AM
Subject: WLS-ANGLESEY-D Digest V02 #163
Thanks for your reply. Your Emma Prydderch is rather more recent than my
Ellen, but you might be able to find out more about her by e-mailing
Anglesey Lookup Exchange's facility for checking the Griffith's Pedigrees of
Anglesey and Caernarfonshire Family, since there were a lot of Prydderchs
in the Llangristiolus area, some of whom are in the Pedigrees. Anglesey
Lookup Exchange can be reached at:
freespace.virgin.net/isabel.easter/Ang.htm or you could e-mail Glyn Jones at
glynphoto(a)btinternet.com . I hope this will be successful.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Annette Beasley" <annettebea(a)optusnet.com.au>
To: <WLS-ANGLESEY-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 9:02 AM
Subject: Re: [ANG] Prydderchs of Anglesey
> I don't know if this helps but I have a record of Emma Prydderch born
Llangristiolus, Anglesey in 1811 marrying Thomas Chambers, widow, in 1837 at
Llangristiolus. She died in 1866 and is buried at Llanfaelog.
>
> Cheers
> Annette Beasley
> Melbourne, Australia
>
> *********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********
>
> On 2/09/2002 at 6:39 AM Iolo Griffiths wrote:
>
> >I would be grateful if some kind person could check the registers for
> >parishes surrounding Llanddyfnan for an Ellen Prydderch born around 1775.
> >She married a William Williams of Llaneugrad in 1796, at Llanddyfnan, and
> >later lived at Tyddyn Fadog, Llanfairmathafarneithaf, and was buried in
> >1840, aged 65, at Llanddyfnan. I have just been to Anglesey, and have
> >established that she was not born in either Llanddyfnan nor LlanfairME,
> >but will not have another opportunity for a while.
> >I am aware that there were Prydderchs at Plas Tregaean, in the parish of
> >Tregaean, which borders on Llanddyfnan, so that may be worth checking.
> >Thanks.
> >
> >
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I'm after a Hugh Prydderch who married Mary Crowell in 1871 in Anglesey.
Does anyone have these people in there line who could help with any info
Regards
Kristene (sunny Sydney)
Here is the Liverpool mailing list.
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Betty Pace
A few general bits of information for list members.
1. Remember that the Gwynedd and Clwyd Family History fair is being held in
the North Wales Conference Centre in Llandudno next Saturday. Very well worth
attending if you are in travelling distance to Llandudno (Or better still, if
you're not in travelling distance, a worthwhile part of a weekend break in
one of the finest resorts in Wales)
2. If any of you have been using the old newspapers and periodicals in The
University Library in Bangor for research, there has been some structural
damage to the part of the library that contains them and it cannot be
accessed for some weeks.
All the other services at the library, e.g. census films, archives, local
interest books are unaffected. It is just the newspapers and periodicals that
cannot be got at.
3. I have a lot of outstanding lookup requests for list members. Now that the
children are back in school, I will try to catch up with my backlog this
week, sorry to all those who have been kept waiting.
All the best
Alwyn
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