Ellen-
Thanks! I appreciate your input.
Paula Waupaca CC -
http://www.wigenweb.org/waupacaWaushara CC -
http://www.wigenweb.org/waushara/index.htm> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 19:00:24 -0400>
From: e.j.pack(a)speakeasy.net> To: wigen(a)rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [WIGEN] By-Laws
Proposal -> > > Hi, Paula -> > It should never be easy to change bylaws.
> > Additionally, there has always been a rather small group of folks who > would
love to make some serious changes to our bylaws,> changes that I'm not at all
convinced would be in the best interest of > the project. I'm not sure I'd like
to make it easier for them. <g> > > Our current bylaws allow for changes as
needed, via an amendment > process. That process has been successful in the past, and
is there for > future changes> as needed. I think that's the best way.> >
Ellen> > > Paula wrote:> > Ellen-> >> > I have read the other
emails about the actual proposal and I am just wondering > > if you would be willing
to share your reasons or opinions why you would vote no. If> > you would rather not,
I understand. I am just looking for some input from others> > so I can make a more
informed decision myself. > >> > Thanks-> > Paula> > Waupaca CC -
http://www.wigenweb.org/waupaca> > Waushara CC -
http://www.wigenweb.org/waushara/index.htm> >> >> > > >> Date:
Fri, 22 Aug 2008 16:45:52 -0400> >> From: e.j.pack(a)speakeasy.net> >> To:
wigen(a)rootsweb.com> >> Subject: Re: [WIGEN] By-Laws Proposal -> >>>
>> I think it is a well-written bad idea. > >>> >> I would vote
no.> >>> >> Ellen> >>> >> MAK - Transcriber wrote:>
>> > >>> I thought this was well written - I am forwarding this for
discussion - is this something that Wisconsin would like to Co-sponsor?>
>>>> >>> Please respond with your thoughts on the subject.>
>>>> >>> Thanks. R/S MAK> >>>> >>> -----
Forwarded Message ----> >>>> >>> To: usgenweb-ne(a)rootsweb.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 12:02:42 AM> >>> Subject:
USGENWEB-NE Digest, Vol 3, Issue 41> >>>> >>> Today's
Topics:> >>>> >>> 1. Bylaws Amendment Proposal (Jeff Scism)>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------->
>>>> >>> Message: 1> >>> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 20:27:58
-0700> >>> From: Jeff Scism > >>> Subject: [USGENWEB-NE] Bylaws
Amendment Proposal> >>>> >>> Hello, I am Jeff Scism, I am Co-CC
for three Indiana Counties, Montgomery, Fountain and Putnam.> >>>>
>>> As an introduction, the bylaws amendment proposal has been co-sponsored by
two states, Indiana and Mississippi.> >>>> >>>
http://usgenweb.org/volunteers/notice.shtml> >>>> >>> The ONLY
change this proposal makes is to change the number (%) of voters casting votes from a
current 2/3rds majority to a simple (50%+1 vote) majority to pass future bylaws
amendments, this one is under the current rules and will require a 2/3rds majority to
carry.> >>>> >>> A total of five states co-sponsoring is required
to place the issue on the ballot. If three more states do not sponsor it, it becomes a
"dead" issue.> >>>> >>> Why this amendment is
proposed...> >>>> >>> There are two "hoops" that have to
be jumped through to allow the membership to consider any Bylaws amendment.>
>>>> >>> The first "hoop" is the sponsoring by at least
five states. This, by our current bylaws, directs that the proposal be balloted during the
next annual voting period, July 1-31.> >>>> >>> The second
"hoop" is getting 66%+ of those voting to approve the amendment.>
>>>> >>> In the past there have been many well thought out and
desirable proposals which never got to the ballot, because five states could not agree to
co-sponsor.> >>>> >>> The Basic bylaws document has has many built
in flaws that have been known for years, and so far three full revisions have failed to
make it to the ballot.> >>>> >>> Although we are always tempted to
fix all of what is wrong, we must acknowledge that ONE small change at a time is likely
all we can convince people to adapt to, and get five states to co-sponsor.>
>>>> >>> This means that getting tech errors and flaws corrected will
take years, having only one opportunity per year to submit to the process, and if that
effort doesn't pass that is a t least a year wasted.> >>>> >>>
This is the first step, not only will it allow easier amendments, it will also give the
membership more of a say in how things are done.> >>>> >>>
Currently with the 2/3rds requirement, 34% of the voters in the Project is a majority. It
only takes 34% of those voters to over ride the remaining voters support. With passage of
this amendment the power to make changes is placed back in the hands of the simple
majority, The CCs will be able to have a vote that counts, without having to convince MORE
than 66% of the voters.> >>>> >>> In addition to this proposal,
NEXT year others will follow, if this passes, which will gradually work on the existing
issues. ADD the members' rights section, define a membership class, and a voting
class, establish how to join.> >>>> >>> These are things which the
current bylaws lack.> >>>> >>> Other issues which may arise:>
>>>> >>> Establish a single Parliamentary authority, so all states
operate under the same processes and rights. This will allow the bylaws to be a lot LESS,
as most issues and processes are already covered in the Guide. This will also install a
fair procedure that isn't "made up as we go" as past procedures have
been.> >>>> >>> Move the "Operating Procedures" out of
the bylaws and into an attached document, so that a Project wide vote isn't required
(and at least a year wait) to make changes that are specific to operations.>
>>>> >>> Install a separability clause, so if one portion of the
Bylaws is deemed to be void, the rest will be unaffected.> >>>>
>>> Establish a POLICY section where policies will be separate from Bylaws.>
>>>> >>> Remove sections that contradict Law.> >>>>
>>> Allow administrative amendments to correct errors in spelling, or sentence
structure. Make changes of things like links and addresses of websites that may change.
(An example is the current bylaws amendment procedure which references the USGenWeb-all
list, which is no longer used.)> >>>> >>> If you have any
questions about this or future proposals, feel free to write to me, Jeff(a)ibssg.org, or ask
on list.> >>>> >>> The aim of this process is to put the vote of
the members first.> >>>> >>> Thank You.> >>>>
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