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Chapter 35 - Town of Seneca - has been added for the 1884
History of Crawford County.
http://www.rootsweb.com/~wicrawfo/chap35.htm
Off to do more of the 253 pages left to put online. Now with
school upon me and 1001 things to do, I'll go into a slower mode
on transcribing - so most likely it'll be awhile before something
else appears.
Also added - a link to the 1836 Crawford County census -
http://www.rootsweb.com/~wicrawfo/
provided by David Taft. Thanks David!
Tim
Hi all,
In Wiscosin, it is a punishable crime to digitize vital records. And to
answer the original question, I'm not positive either, but I believe that
only the records that appear on the pre-1907 fiche cards are able to be
digitized - which is why this is all we ever see outside of the counties or
the State vital records office. So it would be my belief that only those
ISSUED before Oct 1907 would qualify, regardless of the original birthdate.
They also have an email address now: VitalRecords(a)dhfs.state.wi.us
Thanks,
Peggy Perry, President
Iowa County Genealogical Society
<http://www.friendsnfamily.net/wiiowagensoc/index.html>
WIGenWeb Coordinator for
Dane <http://www.rootsweb.com/~widane> and Iowa
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"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />
Moderator for The Obituary Daily Times <http://www.rootsweb.com/~obituary>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Debbie Barrett [mailto:mrsgrinnin@attbi.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 9:33 PM
> To: WIGEN-L(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: Re: [WIGEN-L] Legality question
>
>
> Nance:
>
> I may be wrong, but a record such as birth, death and marriage is a public
> record and therefore not subject to the copyright laws.
>
> Debbie
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <nsampson(a)spacestar.net>
> To: <WIGEN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 3:30 PM
> Subject: [WIGEN-L] Legality question
>
>
> > I had a volunteer send me a scanned copy of a delayed birth record. The
> > actual birth took place on 04 Jul 1906, but this delayed record was
> > issued on 20 Sep 1955. Can I put this scan on my county website, or
> > would it be breaking a law of some kind? Isn't there some kind of
> > copyright law on all but the pre-1907 records as far as making copies?
> > Sure wish I could remember! Any advice would be appreciated.
> >
> > Nance
> >
> >
> >
> > ==== WIGEN Mailing List ====
> > Celebrate Wisconsin!
> > Visit the Waukesha County WIGenWeb Project Pages
> > http://www.rootsweb.com/~wiwaukes/indice.html
> >
> >
>
>
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>
FYI.
Tina
----- Original Message -----
From: Linda Haas Davenport <lhaasdav(a)mindspring.com>
To: <STATE-COORD-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 6:59 PM
Subject: [STATE-COORD-L] Official Recount Election Results
> The Re-count of votes is completed therefore;
> The 2002 Run-Off Election for Advisory Board
> Representatives is declared ended. The following are
> the results of the Run-Off Election.
>
> National Coordinator:
> Total Votes: 340
> Richard Harrison: 233
> John Rigdon: 107
> The Election Committee hereby declares Richard
> Harrison the winner.
>
> Northwest Plains Regional County Coordinator
> Representative:
> Total Votes: 66
> Gail Meyer Kilgore: 29
> Bill Oliver: 37
> The Election Committee hereby declares Bill Oliver
> the winner.
>
> Southeast Mid Atlantic Regional County Coordinator
> Representative:
> Total Votes: 117
> Jimmy Epperson: 74
> Diane Kelly: 43
> The Election Committee hereby declares Jimmy
> Epperson the winner.
>
> Southwest South Central Regional State Coordinator
> Representative:
> Total Votes: 87
> Phyllis Rippee: 45
> Bettie Wood: 42
> The Election Committee hereby declares Phyllis Rippee
> the winner.
>
> The full results of the Annual Election and the
> Run-Off Election will be available later today at:
> http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgwelections/
>
> The Election Committee wishes to thank everyone who
> voted and the Candidates for their participation and
> willingness to serve.
>
> The USGenWeb Project Election Committee
>
Thanks to all who responded to my question about the vital record scan. I
thought it was illegal, but with the actual birth date being pre-1907, I
thought maybe it would make a difference. Yet, the 1955 date sent me in a
tail-spin. My reasoning on thinking the 1906 date was okay, is that the
Wisconsin Historical Society can make copies of the old records, thus my
question.
I think I'll nix on putting the actual scan online. :~)
Thanks again for all the good advice,
Nance
joan benner wrote:
> YIKES! Yes, it is very much against State law to create an electronic image
> of a WI vital record...the law strictly prohibits photocopying, scanning,
> etc. The last I heard, the penalty is something like jail time and/or a
> several thousand dollar fine.
>
> You can place a transcription of the record though.
>
> Joan
> > I had a volunteer send me a scanned copy of a delayed birth record. The
> > actual birth took place on 04 Jul 1906, but this delayed record was
> > issued on 20 Sep 1955. Can I put this scan on my county website, or
> > would it be breaking a law of some kind?
-----------------
Calling a local Register of Deeds would be a good idea on this one.
Wisconsin is one of the most open states on public records but I believe
they do have strict laws on not creating an electronic image (scan or
another photocopy) of a vital record. Chapter 69 of the State Stautes is
the portion about vital records laws, you might find an answer to your
question there, too [http://www.legis.state.wi.us/rsb/Statutes.html].
To play it safe, could you place a transcription of the record, instead?
Joan
Coordinator Adams Co. WIGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~wiadams/adams.htm
and Marquette Co. WIGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~wimarque/wimarque.htm
Nance:
I may be wrong, but a record such as birth, death and marriage is a public
record and therefore not subject to the copyright laws.
Debbie
----- Original Message -----
From: <nsampson(a)spacestar.net>
To: <WIGEN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 3:30 PM
Subject: [WIGEN-L] Legality question
> I had a volunteer send me a scanned copy of a delayed birth record. The
> actual birth took place on 04 Jul 1906, but this delayed record was
> issued on 20 Sep 1955. Can I put this scan on my county website, or
> would it be breaking a law of some kind? Isn't there some kind of
> copyright law on all but the pre-1907 records as far as making copies?
> Sure wish I could remember! Any advice would be appreciated.
>
> Nance
>
>
>
> ==== WIGEN Mailing List ====
> Celebrate Wisconsin!
> Visit the Waukesha County WIGenWeb Project Pages
> http://www.rootsweb.com/~wiwaukes/indice.html
>
>
I had a volunteer send me a scanned copy of a delayed birth record. The
actual birth took place on 04 Jul 1906, but this delayed record was
issued on 20 Sep 1955. Can I put this scan on my county website, or
would it be breaking a law of some kind? Isn't there some kind of
copyright law on all but the pre-1907 records as far as making copies?
Sure wish I could remember! Any advice would be appreciated.
Nance
Thanks Holly! With this note, I am cc'ing Clark. If I can help in any way,
let me know.
Tina
----- Original Message -----
From: Holly Timm <usgenweb(a)cox.net>
To: <WIGEN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: [WIGEN-L] Fw: Idea for WIGENWEB
> At 09:25 PM 8/14/02 -0400, Tina S Vickery wrote:
> >Hi all,
> >
> >I received this today, and find it an interesting request/offer. I
visited
> >the IAGenWeb site http://iagenweb.org/iaorphans/. Do any of you have an
> >interest in helping Clark put this together for WIGenWeb Project? Do any
of
> >you feature Orphan Train information on your county sites?
>
> Tina, I think this is a great idea. Just think how difficult it must be
for
> descendants of those on the orphan trains to search their ancestries!
> Anything that will possibly help is, I think, a terrific project and an
> excellent addition to WIGenWeb. I'll volunteer to work with Clark to put
> this together.
>
> Holly
> Oneida
>
>
>
> >I forward this with Mr. Kidder's permission.
> >
> >Tina
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Clark Kidder
> >To: tsvickery(a)adelphia.net
> >Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 3:00 PM
> >Subject: Idea for WIGENWEB
> >
> >
> >Hi Tina,
> >I'm the author of a book on the orphan trains. My grandmother was brought
to
> >Wisconsin on such a train in 1906. I've been gathering information for
years
> >on Wisconsin's orphan train riders, and a friend has just teamed up with
> >Iowa GenWeb to create a fantastic set of web pages on Iowa's role in the
> >orphan train era. This has given me the idea to do the same here in
> >Wisconsin. How does this all work? Would you be interested in such a
topic
> >for Wisconsin's site? How is it all financed? Who designs the pages?
> >Sorry for so many questions.
> >I have a great deal of material and photos that could be used on the
site,
> >and would be happy to assist in arranging/editing it.
> >I'll look forward to hearing from you.
> >Best Wishes,
> >Clark Kidder
> >
> >Clark Kidder, Author of:
> >Marilyn Monroe UnCovers (Quon, 1994)
> >Marilyn Monroe Cover To Cover (Krause, 1999)
> >Marilyn Monroe Collectibles (HarperCollins, 1999)
> >Orphan Trains and Their Precious Cargo (Heritage, 2001)
> >Marilyn Monroe Memorabilia (Krause, 2002)
> >
> >Magazine Articles:
> >How to Research Orphan Train Riders (Family Tree Mag., June 2002)
> >
> >
> >
> >==== WIGEN Mailing List ====
> >Celebrate Wisconsin!
> >Visit the Vilas County WIGenWeb Project Pages
> >http://www.rootsweb.com/~wivernon/
>
>
> ==== WIGEN Mailing List ====
> Celebrate Wisconsin!
> Visit the Vilas County WIGenWeb Project Pages
> http://www.rootsweb.com/~wivernon/
>
>
I agree with Rita.
Linda - Dunn Co.
On Thu, 15 Aug 2002 17:25:43 -0400 Rita <ocontogal2000(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> I, too am well pleased with Tina's work and
> leadership. And agree that some sort
> of perameters need to be set for future use,
> before a problem arises. I suggest
> a 2 year term, as it is a difficult job and
> takes time to learn before being
> able to show your potential. One year is really
> not time enough. And if things
> come up that mean the elected official must
> leave the position, it is not very
> long before another election. I wonder about
> constructing a provision that would
> allow the WI. CC's to review an elected
> official's performance at any time
> during the term, through this list. No
> defensivesness, arguing, or
> attacking....save that for person e-mails if
> need be. What I mean would be
> something like this:
> 1. A CC would write in to the list and suggest
> a re-election vote for said
> individual.
> 2. Other CC's would repond with a simple "Yes
> or No" within a given period of
> time (? two weeks).
> 3. If the majority of those who respond say
> "No", then the election stands, if
> the majority to respond say "Yes", a
> confidential vote of confidence is held.
> Whatcha think??
>
> Rita - Oconto County
I, too am well pleased with Tina's work and leadership. And agree that some sort
of perameters need to be set for future use, before a problem arises. I suggest
a 2 year term, as it is a difficult job and takes time to learn before being
able to show your potential. One year is really not time enough. And if things
come up that mean the elected official must leave the position, it is not very
long before another election. I wonder about constructing a provision that would
allow the WI. CC's to review an elected official's performance at any time
during the term, through this list. No defensivesness, arguing, or
attacking....save that for person e-mails if need be. What I mean would be
something like this:
1. A CC would write in to the list and suggest a re-election vote for said
individual.
2. Other CC's would repond with a simple "Yes or No" within a given period of
time (? two weeks).
3. If the majority of those who respond say "No", then the election stands, if
the majority to respond say "Yes", a confidential vote of confidence is held.
Whatcha think??
Rita - Oconto County
Jan Cortez wrote:
> Leave it to me to jump right in here with both feet! <g>
>
> Please understand that I don't have any axe to grind with Tina. She's done
> a fabulous job. And I'm not looking for an election in WI - however I think
> that we should consider what the length of a term should be.. One year,
> two years??
>
> We are very lucky in this state, since we don't have problems, but, believe
> me there are problems in other states. Whether they are the fault of the SC
> or the CC's is not for me to judge. All I am considering here is the day
> that Tina may get tired of being SC, or whatever. Things happen.... And if
> we find ourselves with someone intolerable - I would like to think that we
> had an out......
>
> So lets give this some long hard thought - and do what we think is best for
> all of us.
>
> Just my two cents worth!
>
> Jan Cortez
> Ashland, Bayfield, Waushara & Winnebago
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tina S Vickery" <tsvickery(a)adelphia.net>
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > The WIGenWeb Project guidelines make no provision for elections and/or
> > term of the State Coordinator position.
> >
> > In November, I will be entering my 4th year as your State Coordinator,
> > and have enjoyed it immensely. But I also feel, that a discussion
> > should be opened to consider term/election of the State Coordinator.
> >
> > Comments, suggestions, ideas?
> >
> > Tina
>
> ==== WIGEN Mailing List ====
> Celebrate Wisconsin!
> Visit the Washington County WIGenWeb Project Pages
> http://www.rootsweb.com/~wiwashin/
Many thanks to Bob Strand <deerhavn(a)athenet.net>
who, back in March, sent a database of the Alban
Cemetery which he personally transcribed!!! I
appologize sincerely to Bob Strand for the delay
in getting it up on-line. Please be sure to send
him a THANK YOU - especially if you find one of
your ancestors...
It is now on-line at:
http://www.rootsweb.com/~wiportag/cemetery/Alban-transcriptions.htm
The surnames will be included in the PortageCoWI
PICO SEARCH as soon as it is done indexing in a
few hours.
Bob also sent a plat map of the cemetery which I
will try to get on-line as soon as I figure out
the HTML coding... It will be linked on the
Alban Cemetery page and announced to the
PortageCoWI Mailing List as well...
Again, many thanks to Bob Strand.
R/S MAK
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Hi all,
I received this today, and find it an interesting request/offer. I visited
the IAGenWeb site http://iagenweb.org/iaorphans/. Do any of you have an
interest in helping Clark put this together for WIGenWeb Project? Do any of
you feature Orphan Train information on your county sites?
I forward this with Mr. Kidder's permission.
Tina
----- Original Message -----
From: Clark Kidder
To: tsvickery(a)adelphia.net
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 3:00 PM
Subject: Idea for WIGENWEB
Hi Tina,
I'm the author of a book on the orphan trains. My grandmother was brought to
Wisconsin on such a train in 1906. I've been gathering information for years
on Wisconsin's orphan train riders, and a friend has just teamed up with
Iowa GenWeb to create a fantastic set of web pages on Iowa's role in the
orphan train era. This has given me the idea to do the same here in
Wisconsin. How does this all work? Would you be interested in such a topic
for Wisconsin's site? How is it all financed? Who designs the pages?
Sorry for so many questions.
I have a great deal of material and photos that could be used on the site,
and would be happy to assist in arranging/editing it.
I'll look forward to hearing from you.
Best Wishes,
Clark Kidder
Clark Kidder, Author of:
Marilyn Monroe UnCovers (Quon, 1994)
Marilyn Monroe Cover To Cover (Krause, 1999)
Marilyn Monroe Collectibles (HarperCollins, 1999)
Orphan Trains and Their Precious Cargo (Heritage, 2001)
Marilyn Monroe Memorabilia (Krause, 2002)
Magazine Articles:
How to Research Orphan Train Riders (Family Tree Mag., June 2002)
I just got a letter from someone trying to trace his roots. (of course ;-))
He tried to access an obit that was listed and the page will not display. The
following message was received, and also when I tried to get the obit.
> The requested URL /~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Wi/MarathonObits?read=873 was not
> found on this server.
Has something changed that I was not aware of, or is this a new problem?
Shelley
(Put Shelley or relevant subject matter in subject line, please)
Marathon County - www.rootsweb.com/~wimarath
Lincoln County - www.rootsweb.com/~wilincol
Personal web page - http://members.aol.com/sdgreen715/index.html
Mailing Lists - Marathon County - wimarath-l(a)rootsweb.com
Lincoln County - wilincol-l(a)rootsweb.com
Shelley:
That looks like a URL for the old Genconnect boards which are now defunct.
Everything (I think) was transferred over to the message boards at
Ancestry.com.
Please someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Debbie Barrett
Coordinator
Pierce County WIGenWeb Project
www.rootsweb.com/~wipierce/
----- Original Message -----
From: <SDGreen715(a)aol.com>
To: <WIGEN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 12:41 PM
Subject: [WIGEN-L] having problems with rootsweb
> I just got a letter from someone trying to trace his roots. (of course
;-))
>
> He tried to access an obit that was listed and the page will not display.
The
> following message was received, and also when I tried to get the obit.
>
> > The requested URL /~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Wi/MarathonObits?read=873 was
not
> > found on this server.
>
> Has something changed that I was not aware of, or is this a new problem?
>
> Shelley
> (Put Shelley or relevant subject matter in subject line, please)
> Marathon County - www.rootsweb.com/~wimarath
> Lincoln County - www.rootsweb.com/~wilincol
> Personal web page - http://members.aol.com/sdgreen715/index.html
> Mailing Lists - Marathon County - wimarath-l(a)rootsweb.com
> Lincoln County - wilincol-l(a)rootsweb.com
>
>
> ==== WIGEN Mailing List ====
> Celebrate Wisconsin!
> Visit the Trempealeau County WIGenWeb Project Pages
> http://www.rootsweb.com/~witrempe/
>
Hi all, [sometimes I think I should say me again <g>]
I have been struggling to articulate what I want to say.. so I will
just spit it out..
I have no desire to leave WIGenWeb Project, but I feel that you all as
a group of volunteers should have not only a say on some scheduled
basis, but also a mechanism to deal with the future within our
guidelines. Vote someone new in, or a vote of confidence that you are
all happy.
Tina
10 more bios added this evening (M-N-O) surnames from the 1906 history of
Richland County.
This leaves 73 bioa left to put online.
http://www.rootsweb.com/~wirichla/1906bios.htm
These have ties to other Wisconsin counties and states
back east among which are Ind., Ohio and New York.
Tim - 7 squared
remember.....
we can do what we want.....
and if we investigate the possibilities of some type of term or whatever, the present SC will be grandfathered in, and the changes will only apply to the next person.
:-)
Tracy
>
>It just seems to me that WIGenWeb is a good group of
>VOLUNTEERS - why make it more difficult to be in the
>position you would like to VOLUNTEER for?
>
Because a volunteer isn't always the best for the job.
A person can volunteer with all the good intentions in the world, but when
it comes right down to it, if they aren't doing their job, they need to be
relieved of their duties.
Because the genweb is so political already, we need measures in hand in
order to keep volunteers from volunteering friends to do things they are not
in the capacity to accomplish.
Ellen-
Waukesha
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OK, let me play the devil's advocate - speaking
as a CC, why do we need to make the SC a term
condition (unless they are changing the USGenWeb
bylaws to incorporate this)??? If it ain't broke
- does it need fixed? We have a great SC and we
all love her - unless she wants to step down - do
we really need an election just to vote her back
in - (grin)...
As for ASC - I have seen states where the person
coming in second in the election is ASC - this
doesn't seem to work unless the two people were
already on good working conditions. Also, I saw
where the SC picks the ASC (that is what WI does
currently) - if the SC picks the ASC they usually
can work together as a team - Tina twisted my arm
into taking the ASC position when her last one
stepped down, I have no vested interest in this
position and think perhaps this position could be
rotated without changing the SC - perhaps people
could volunteer for a 1-2 year stretch and the SC
pick from the pool of volunteers??? Just a
thought.
Second - if the SC does something "stupid" and we
don't like her any more, according to our
USGenWeb By-laws,
Section 5. State projects are empowered to
develop/adopt any additional rules/bylaws and
guidelines, as appropriate, for their state so
long as they do not conflict with these bylaws.
State projects shall be highly encouraged to
develop and adopt rules/bylaws that cover
grievance procedures within the state
Section 8. State Coordinators shall be elected
to those positions by the local-level
coordinators within the state. Those State
Coordinators and Assistant State Coordinators in
place at the time these bylaws are adopted shall
be exempt from election procedures, unless
he/she/they are removed, resign, or are unable to
perform their duties.
Section 9. State Coordinators and Assistant State
Coordinators are subject to possible removal by a
2/3 vote of the Advisory Board and a 2/3 vote of
the Local Coordinators within the state. A quorum
of 75% of the Local Coordinators shall
participate in order for the vote to be binding.
I do like the fact that Tina put it up this topic
for discussion - and possibly making WI Bylaws -
Remember what a good discussion we had coming up
with
http://www.rootsweb.com/~wigenweb/volunteer.html
I recall the majority of CC's back four years ago
did not want a lot of rules - perhaps this
perception has changed???
R/S MAK
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I don't usually speak up, but I feel pretty strongly
about this topic - If we make the SC/ASC positions
elected, they will become political! I think even two
year terms are too short. If the SC/ASC is
overwhelmed, they can still resign in the middle of
their terms, so why limit the length of good SC/ASCs?
Do we HAVE to elect our SC/ASC?
I understand that other states have problems. I've
been a CC here in Wisconsin for more than 4 years. How
about something a little more like we've done in the
past...
We have a vacancy in the SC/ASC position. We (the CCs)
take volunteers into consideration first. Using this
list (and it's a good discussion list), we would make
sure that nobody has any problems with the individual
volunteering. (For instance, we wouldn't really care
to have SneezyKat as a SC or ASC - I think!) Then we
could put THAT up to a vote, maybe saying a quorum (or
half or two-thirds) of CCs agree that the individual
should be SC/ASC. That SC/ASC may serve as long as
they have the desire (and energy). If anyone has a
problem with the SC or ASC, it should be discussed on
this list. If the problems are widespread, a vote of
confidence (or is it no-confidence?) would be taken.
Again, it would take the quorum (or half or two-thirds)
of CCs to remove that person from their position.
There may be a few details that should be worked out in
our bylaws about this (like, can anyone call for a vote
of no-confidence?), but I think it's a workable system.
It just seems to me that WIGenWeb is a good group of
VOLUNTEERS - why make it more difficult to be in the
position you would like to VOLUNTEER for?
We've got a very good atmosphere of cooperation here in
Wisconsin. Let's try to keep it simple,
straightforward, and easy for EVERYONE.
Roxanne
St. Croix CC
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