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Hi Listers,
I was up on the state site tonight and noticed a change, so I thought I
would just drop a line in the event I missed something along the way here.
I would like to Thank Jan for all of her time with Waukesha County. Glad to
see you will still be staying amongst us with your other counties. I would
also like to say Welcome Aboard Fulltime now to Ellen. I noticed Ellen is
no longer just Co-CC for Waukesha County, but has taken over as the County
Coordinator herself for Waukesha.
To Everyone here on the list, May you all have a very Merry Christmas,
Debie Blindauer
Calumet & Sheboygan Counties
Tina - Or you could all come to CA - while no snow - we do have plenty of
rain tonight - and during the day, it is in the low 60s... although I am
freezing at night.
Tim - Have a great vacation -
R/S MAK
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Thanks,
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-----Original Message-----
From: Lori Niemuth [mailto:dawnlea@ticon.net]
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 12:31 AM
To: WIGEN-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [WIGEN-L] heading to Wisconsin
You all spoke too soon; snow in the southern part of the state this
morning. It didn't stick but a storm is expected this weekend.
Lori in Rock Co.
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At 05:10 AM 12/19/01 EST, you wrote:
>Tim,
>
>Sounds like a nice trip....my son in Milwaukee said the weather's been
>relatively nice there lately (for this time of year!) I'd still bring my
>boots! You never know--maybe you'll have enough snow for a horse-drawn
>sleigh-ride!
>
>And Merry Christmas!
>Anne
>Shawano & Florence CC
Our Christmas tradition has been when in MN is to take an after Christmas
dinner walk right down the middle of the Rabbit River (a creek in the South)
past a beaver dam or two, raccoons in the trees, mussel shells along the
banks.
Sometimes if the snow is deep enough we go on skis - and I do so look forward
to cross-country skiing for there's not to much of that available hereabouts.
Tim
At 08:36 AM 12/19/01 -0600, you wrote:
>I'll be in Altoona (just across the city limits from Eau Claire) on
>Saturday for our family's Christmas gathering. Any chance you'll be
>doing some research on Sarah (Stowell) Burgess' father-in-law, while you
>are in EC?
>
>It's a lovely shade of brown right now (at least in northern Wisconsin).
>
>Wishing you safe traveling and a happy and healthy holiday season to
>all!
>
>Nance
>mailto:nsampson@spacestar.net
No Nance, Eau Claire will just be another exit alongside the freeway as we
try to beat the setting sun to western MN.
Tim
Have a safe trip Tim and enjoy the holidays....
Jan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Stowell" <tstowell(a)chattanooga.net>
> I'm heading out Thursday towards Wisconsin.
>
> I'll be traveling most likely through the state on Friday -
> Beloit to Eau Claire -
>
> one beautiful state.
>
> Tim Stowell
> Crawford - Richland
You all can come to Maine.. We have 8+ fresh inches of snow on the ground ... <g> ... HO, HO, HO!
Tina
In a message dated Wed, 19 Dec 2001 1:44:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, "traceroots(a)charter.net" <traceroots(a)charter.net> writes:
> ..and the southern portion as well! No need for skates or sleds this year.
>
> Thanks,
> Peggy Perry
>
> Original Message:
> -----------------
> From: Nance Sampson nsampson(a)spacestar.net
> Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 08:36:25 -0600
> To: WIGEN-L(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: Re: [WIGEN-L] heading to Wisconsin
>
>
> I'll be in Altoona (just across the city limits from Eau Claire) on
> Saturday for our family's Christmas gathering. Any chance you'll be
> doing some research on Sarah (Stowell) Burgess' father-in-law, while you
> are in EC?
>
> It's a lovely shade of brown right now (at least in northern Wisconsin).
>
> Wishing you safe traveling and a happy and healthy holiday season to
> all!
>
> Nance
> mailto:nsampson@spacestar.net
>
> Tim Stowell wrote:
>
> > I'm heading out Thursday towards Wisconsin.
> >
> > I'll be traveling most likely through the state on Friday -
> > Beloit to Eau Claire -
> >
> > one beautiful state.
> >
> > Tim Stowell
> > Crawford - Richland
> >
> > ==== WIGEN Mailing List ====
> > Celebrate Wisconsin!
> > Visit the Vilas County WIGenWeb Project Pages
> > http://www.rootsweb.com/~wivernon/
>
>
>
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..and the southern portion as well! No need for skates or sleds this year.
Thanks,
Peggy Perry
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From: Nance Sampson nsampson(a)spacestar.net
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 08:36:25 -0600
To: WIGEN-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [WIGEN-L] heading to Wisconsin
I'll be in Altoona (just across the city limits from Eau Claire) on
Saturday for our family's Christmas gathering. Any chance you'll be
doing some research on Sarah (Stowell) Burgess' father-in-law, while you
are in EC?
It's a lovely shade of brown right now (at least in northern Wisconsin).
Wishing you safe traveling and a happy and healthy holiday season to
all!
Nance
mailto:nsampson@spacestar.net
Tim Stowell wrote:
> I'm heading out Thursday towards Wisconsin.
>
> I'll be traveling most likely through the state on Friday -
> Beloit to Eau Claire -
>
> one beautiful state.
>
> Tim Stowell
> Crawford - Richland
>
> ==== WIGEN Mailing List ====
> Celebrate Wisconsin!
> Visit the Vilas County WIGenWeb Project Pages
> http://www.rootsweb.com/~wivernon/
==== WIGEN Mailing List ====
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I'll be in Altoona (just across the city limits from Eau Claire) on
Saturday for our family's Christmas gathering. Any chance you'll be
doing some research on Sarah (Stowell) Burgess' father-in-law, while you
are in EC?
It's a lovely shade of brown right now (at least in northern Wisconsin).
Wishing you safe traveling and a happy and healthy holiday season to
all!
Nance
mailto:nsampson@spacestar.net
Tim Stowell wrote:
> I'm heading out Thursday towards Wisconsin.
>
> I'll be traveling most likely through the state on Friday -
> Beloit to Eau Claire -
>
> one beautiful state.
>
> Tim Stowell
> Crawford - Richland
>
> ==== WIGEN Mailing List ====
> Celebrate Wisconsin!
> Visit the Vilas County WIGenWeb Project Pages
> http://www.rootsweb.com/~wivernon/
Take your skates! Just in case!
Debbie
----- Original Message -----
From: Tim Stowell
To: WIGEN-L(a)rootsweb.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 1:03 AM
Subject: [WIGEN-L] heading to Wisconsin
I'm heading out Thursday towards Wisconsin.
I'll be traveling most likely through the state on Friday -
Beloit to Eau Claire -
one beautiful state.
Tim Stowell
Crawford - Richland
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Tim,
Sounds like a nice trip....my son in Milwaukee said the weather's been
relatively nice there lately (for this time of year!) I'd still bring my
boots! You never know--maybe you'll have enough snow for a horse-drawn
sleigh-ride!
And Merry Christmas!
Anne
Shawano & Florence CC
I'm heading out Thursday towards Wisconsin.
I'll be traveling most likely through the state on Friday -
Beloit to Eau Claire -
one beautiful state.
Tim Stowell
Crawford - Richland
GenTech 2002, (25-26 January 2002) is being held in Boston, MA this
year and the USGenWeb Project has a double booth.
There will be an organizational meeting on irc.rootsweb.com Wednesday,
December 19, 2001, at 8pm EST, channel name #gentech for those that
are planning on attending and/or wish to help in the planning of the
USGenWeb Project's presence.
Contact us at: gentech2002(a)earthlink.net and/or join us on
irc.rootsweb.com Wednesday night. Any and all help will gladly be
accepted!!
Please feel free to forward to your state and other appropriate lists.
Tina Vickery
Richland County:
Uploaded today - an updated - Thompson's Death Index of Richland County.
The previous index had been to 1980. This one goes through 31 Dec 1998.
http://www.rootsweb.com/~wirichla/deadintr.htm
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Crawford County:
Uploaded - Chapter 10 - First Settlement in the County
from the History of Crawford County.
http://www.rootsweb.com/~wicrawfo/chap10.htm
which includes the Census of 1836:
http://www.rootsweb.com/~wicrawfo/cens1836.htm
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There is a rather neat section in this chapter which I quote in part
below from the sub-heading 'Pioneer Times' - this also includes a bit about
Green Bay and in fact the State of Wisconsin:
"The character of the pioneers of Crawford county was a compound of
civilization and primitive simplicity, exhibiting the polite and lively
characteristics of the French, and the thoughtlessness and improvidence of
the aborigines. Possessing the virtues of hospitality, and the warmth of
heart unknown to residents of cities, untrameled by the etiquette and
conventional rules of modern "high life," they were ever ready to receive
and entertain their friends, and more intent upon the enjoyment of the
present than to lay up store, or make provision, for the future. With few
wants, and contented and happy hearts, they found enjoyment in the merry
dance, the sleigh-ride, and the exciting horse-race, and, doubtless,
experienced more true happiness and contentment than the plodding,
calculating, and money seeking people of the present day. This was the
character of the settlers who occupied this country before the arrival of
the Yankees; a class now entirely extinct, or lost sight of by the present
population; but it is one which unites the present with the past, and for
whom the old settlers entertain feelings of veneration and respect.
H. S. Baird says: --- "During the early years of my residence here at Green
Bay, the social circle, although limited, was by no means insignificant.
It was composed of the families of the garrison and the Americans, and
several of the old settlers. If it was small, it was also united by the
ties of friendship and good feeling. Free from the formalities and customs
which are observed by the elite of the present day, we met to enjoy
ourselves, more like members of one family than as strangers. The young
people of that period (and all felt young then) would assemble on a few
hours' notice at the house of a neighbor, without form or ceremony. Young
ladies were then expected to appear at an early hour in the evening, and
not at the usual hour of retiring to rest; nor were they required to
appear in court or fancy dresses. The merry dance followed, and all
enjoyed themselves until the early hours in the morning. One custom
prevailed universally among all classes, even extending to the Indians;
that of devoting the holidays to festivity and amusement, but especially
that of 'calling' on New Year's Day. This custom was confined to no class
in particular. All observed it; and many met on that day, who did not
again meet until the succeeding year. All then shook hands, and exchanged
mutual good wishes. All old animosities were forgotten, all differences
settled, and universal peace established.
As time passed along, many changes took place. Other men and their
families came in, and became a part and parcel of the community,
introducing new ideas, and bringing with them the customs and habits of the
places from which they removed. The title acquired by the government, by
treaties with the Indians, and these lands being surveyed and brought into
market, and offered at a mere nominal price, increased the number of
settlers from the eastern and other States. By energy and perseverance,
they surmounted all obstacles, and by their courage and firmness; and to
them is owing the development of the country, the opening the way for the
introduction of civilization, education, and the arts and sciences; and to
them should be awarded the merit of having largely contributed, by their
talents and labor, to the formation and organization of the territory, now
State of Wisconsin. Not many years ago, the whole State of Wisconsin,
except Green Bay and Prairie du Chien, was a wilderness, with here and
there a settler, and those in the lead-region in the southwestern part. It
seems almost incredible to think, or in any way realize what has since
taken place, as it seems almost like enchantment.
But the delights of pioneer life carried with them many difficulties and
hardships. C. M. Baker, in his address at the old settlers' meeting of
Walworth county, in 1869, says:
"I have spoken of the men who first settled old Walworth; but what, old
comrades in this life-battle in the wilderness that was, what of our
companions, the women?
"Most of them had been delicately reared, and were accustomed to the
luxuries and refinements of cultivated society; and most, or all, had good
homes, with the necessaries and conveniences of life in abundance, and were
surrounded by kind friends and dear relatives. To these they had been
bred; to all these they were strongly attached. But these ties were
sundered, these homes were left behind, when, after the last trunk was
packed, and the last farewell was sadly uttered, they set their faces
westward for a new life and a new home, they knew not whither; but they
knew it must be among strangers. They shared with us the toils of the
journey, the weary miles of sunshine and storm, as we journeyed on and
onward. The partook with us of the coarse fare and rude accommodations of
the wagon and wayside, the canal-boat and the steamer, the log-tavern, and
the bivouac under the open heavens, all this they encountered without
murmuring, and cheerfully.
"And when, late in autumn or early spring, it may be, in the cold storm, or
driving mists and chilly winds that cut to the bone, they took their
departure from Chicago or Milwaukee, the last outposts of civilization over
those low, lonely prairies which surrounded the one, or through the gloomy
forests which enveloped the other, over dismal roads beset with ruts or
stumps, without sign of cultivation or human habitation, then it was that
the hour of bitter trial came to their hearts; then it was, that, amid
their loneliness and utter heart-desolation, the dear homes and kindred
they had left, rose up before them, and, through their tears, they looked
down upon the little ones who clung to them. But not a murmur, not a word
of regret or repining, escaped them. The feelings, too deep for utterance,
which swelled within them, were smothered in their bosoms. When we, at
last (some later, some earlier), had found a place where to make a home in
these pleasant groves and prairies, pleasant to us men; for here there were
herds of bounding deer, and flocks of wild fowl, the wolf and the sand-hill
crane, and game, large and small, to give us sport. The lakes and streams
abounded in fish, and we could take them at our will. The country was all
open, and free to roam over as one great park. There was excitement for us
in all this, suited to our rougher natures and coarser tastes. We could
roam and fish or hunt as we pleased, amid the freshness and beauties of
nature.
"But how was it for our wives? From all these bright, and, to us,
fascinating scenes and pastimes, they were excluded. The were shut up with
the children in log-cabins, when they were fortunate enough to get them,
rude huts, without floors often, and, not unfrequently, without doors or
windows, while the cold, bleak winds of March and December whistled through
them. Frequently they were covered with shakes fastened on with poles,
between which the stars at night looked down upon the faithful mother and
her sleeping infants. Here, in one small room, filled, perhaps, with
smoke; without furniture, except a little of the rudest kind, rough slab
stools, an equally rough table, and a bedstead, if any, made of poles
fastened into the house; without kitchen-utensils, save, perchance, a
kettle, a skillet, and a frying-pan; destitute of crockery, and with a
little tinware, they were called upon to do, unaided, the duties of a
housewife. With these conveniences and these surroundings, they took upon
them for weeks and months, and even for years, the burden of their
households in a continued struggle with hinderances and perplexities.
These were the heroic women to whom our hearts did homage; and I should
fail in my duty at this time, if, in the roll-call of worthy and honorable
names, they should not be remembered."
TSS - After reading this my thoughts were of saluting the pioneers, heroic
men and women who settled not only Wisconsin but the entire country under
circumstances probably not much different than these.
Tim
"We'll be there with bells on!"
Years ago, once snow had a good covering on the ground, people used
horse drawn sleds and sleighs. The rural roads were not plowed and
the runners of these vehicles left ruts to be followed in the deep
snow cover. Many folks walked to their destinations and used the
ruts as "the path of least" resistance to follow. Since these
pedestrians were bundled up from head to toe against the cold, it
was impossible for them to hear a sleigh coming until it was on top
of them. The snow cushioned the hoof beats and made the runners
almost silent. Drivers and riders in these open vehicles got the
full brunt of the wind and cold in their faces, making visibility
dicey at best; nonexistant in the dark. Consequently, the foot
traveler was at great risk of mortal injury. Bells, hand wrought by
local blacksmiths, were attached to the harnesses and leather
trappings so the walkers hear them coming and could quickly "get out
of their rut", before being run over.
Since each bell was slightly different in shape and size, it had
it's own sound. Putting a set together meant that each person's
horse harness had it's own distinctive sound and rhythm with the
horses movements. People would know long before seeing them, who was
coming down the lane. Inhabitants living in roadside homes could
tell who was passing and in what direction they were going without
looking. They also knew when there was a stranger in the vicinity or
someone was using new harnesses. "Yah, I heard Jake going to town
mid afternoon today, he was in no hurry". And if company was coming,
they would say "We'll be there with bells on" so you knew, even in
the dark, when they were coming down the lane and could meet them
at the door with a smile and hug.
Everyone in the sleigh was covered with blankets or fur hides to
keep warm. Sleighs were not often very roomy so it was close
quarters, but added to the warmth. Quarry stones that were cut into
squares or rectangles were set against the wood stove several hours
in advance of a planned trip. Once heated, these were used as
footwarmers on the trip, tucked in front of the seat, just behind
the part of the sleigh that curled up to block snow kicked off the
horse's hooves. That is also where the smallest children were
nestled; sitting up front, behind the sleigh front, on the adult's
feet which were on the warmer stones, under the blankets and hides.
Sometimes even under the seat itself. Snug and warm, you could get a
load of them in there, along with a few little gifts and some
"dishes" of food. Once at their destination, the blankets were
pulled off and out would tumble the giggling cargo. Older children
were to bring in the footstones to place by the stove until it was
time to go home. If they forgot, everyone got home "stone cold".
Rita - Oconto County http://www.rootsweb.com/~wioconto/
It was all records and it was Rootsweb and not the states that make the
decision to remove them... R/S MAK
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> lived or are living recently?
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Are these all the records, or just the ones that represent people who lived
or are living recently? I absolutely agree that privacy and safety are
essential, but the really old records should not be a concern, as a person
who would be 110 years old should ring a bell with anyone using that
information for credit. Rita - Oconto County
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