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In a message dated 6/20/00 7:55:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
treinhardt(a)iosys.net writes:
> 3. Perhaps you could SELL advertising space to those who do this for profit.
> (to pay for photocopying data for your 'free' pages.)
To all,
{From the by-laws} http://www.usgenweb.org/official/bylaws.html
The USGenWeb Project is an organized group of volunteers working to
create an online center for genealogical research by linking every
county in the United States. The purpose of this organization shall be
to gather genealogical and historical information for free online
access by researchers
Solicitation of funds for personal gain is inappropriate. This is
defined as the direct appeal on the home page of any of the websites
comprising The USGenWeb Project for funding to do research, to pay for
server space, to do look-ups, etc. A website may, however, acknowledge
any entities who may host their website (i.e., provide server space at
no cost) or may include a link to a coordinator's personal page on
which they offer research services for reimbursement. The
acknowledgment may include a link to the hosting entity's website. A
website may list research materials and/or services which may be for
sale/hire, either by the coordinator, a genealogy society, or others.
Such a listing shall not be on the main web page for the site, but may
be linked from the main web page. It may be appropriate to include a
disclaimer that the coordinator and The USGenWeb Project do not
guarantee the contents of such research materials and/or the expertise
of any professional researchers.
Tina
Mea culpa, Mea culpa
as usual, Tina is on her toes <g>
There may be no right or wrong for the idea, but there is one NO-NO!
Thanks for the alertness to my hastily scribbled note. I hadn't intended to go
astray of the by-laws; just chalk this up to another of my many "senior moments"
and bring on my rocking chair!!!
While it does not totally answer the question as to whether or not you
can/should/could list paid researchers, it sure clarifies things for me.
You can link to websites of people who search for a fee.
A listing of researchers in the area (free or for pay) could possibly be
maintained, but of course, GET THEIR PERMISSION to post their name and address, if
it is your intention to provide research assistance for people who reside
out-of-state.
Stepping down now, heading for my cane and rocking chair, and bottle
of.........geritol! (do they still make that stuff???)
Twacy
Fond duh lack county
WIGenWebProject(a)aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 6/20/00 7:55:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> treinhardt(a)iosys.net writes:
>
> > 3. Perhaps you could SELL advertising space to those who do this for profit.
> > (to pay for photocopying data for your 'free' pages.)
>
> To all,
>
> {From the by-laws} http://www.usgenweb.org/official/bylaws.html
>
> The USGenWeb Project is an organized group of volunteers working to
> create an online center for genealogical research by linking every
> county in the United States. The purpose of this organization shall be
> to gather genealogical and historical information for free online
> access by researchers
>
> Solicitation of funds for personal gain is inappropriate. This is
> defined as the direct appeal on the home page of any of the websites
> comprising The USGenWeb Project for funding to do research, to pay for
> server space, to do look-ups, etc. A website may, however, acknowledge
> any entities who may host their website (i.e., provide server space at
> no cost) or may include a link to a coordinator's personal page on
> which they offer research services for reimbursement. The
> acknowledgment may include a link to the hosting entity's website. A
> website may list research materials and/or services which may be for
> sale/hire, either by the coordinator, a genealogy society, or others.
> Such a listing shall not be on the main web page for the site, but may
> be linked from the main web page. It may be appropriate to include a
> disclaimer that the coordinator and The USGenWeb Project do not
> guarantee the contents of such research materials and/or the expertise
> of any professional researchers.
>
> Tina
>
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Rather than fool around with something or someone I know nothing about - I
put a link on my pages (or at least some) to the Board of Certified
Genealogists. IMO - its about as reputable as you can get....... (And am
glad someone mentioned it - I got the link from one of my pages and it is
outdated - so need to go back and correct. <G>)
Current Link:
http://www.bcgcertification.org/rost_ix.html
And I'll slink back and correct the ones I have up. <g>
Jan
Ashland, Bayfield, Waukesha, Waushara
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What my question is-do any of you have these area researchers (paid
researchers) listed on your websites?
Thanks
Paula
WaupacaCC
Paula,
Recently I have also received several similar requests and have started
to work up a page of guidelines on what to look for and expect in hiring
a family researcher. Just simple points to ask about, and to give the
reader a basic understanding of what to expect as most have no idea at
all. I also hope to give a brief explanation on the various most
commonly found accreditations. I am still undecided as to actually
listing researchers to contact as I have no way of knowing their
qualification or offerings. If I eventually do, it will be with a very
CLEAR disclaimer stating that this is only meant to help in making
contact between parties and is definitely not an endorsement of anyone
listed. Any transactions agreed upon remain strictly between the parties
involved in the contact. Since researchers offer differing services at
varying prices, and set their own individual schedules, it is really not
possible to give consistently reliable specific information. I, too, am
interested in what others think. Rita - Oconto County
http://www.rootsweb.com/~wioconto/
I have a question for the other County Coordinators. I some times get
requests for referrals to researchers (for hire), people asking me if I know
someone in my county's area that will do extensive research and that they
are glad to pay for this.
Well I usally do as much of what I can for free, refer them to someone else
that can help them free and then if there is too much to research or a great
deal of time involved I refer them to a few of the people in the Waupaca
Area Genealogical Society for further help.
What my question is-do any of you have these area researchers (paid
researchers) listed on your websites? I know we are trying to get as much
information out there for FREE! (And I do this in every way I can) But I am
wondering if this is also a service that I should have on my website (not
the homepage). I would really like to hear what the rest of you are doing
about this and what your thoughts are on it?
Thanks
Paula
WaupacaCC
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Melissa, The seach engines I have are searchable at county and national...
The code can be taken from:
http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/wi/wood/wood.htm
Just change the info for your county and state....
If you need help, let me know.
Marie, Can you tell me what information this book has, I would like to buy it
if it is a historial in nature, as it has many of the counties I need, can you
send details or URL to me P4 (that means to me, not the list). Thanks.
R/S MAK
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Shelley's comment about getting her next project in line for 2005 was really
inspirational! I am only backlogged to 2002 (grin), ha ha ha... so I had
better start looking for MORE stuff! If you haven't seen some of the latest
Marathon stuff, well, it's great, especially since some of my Portage guys seem
to overlap there!!!
Second, I have really been feeling ill the last two months, and haven't been
doing much of anything on the internet, so it isn't that I don't still love ya
all, and my regulars have been extremely concerned, as their inputs are backing
up!!! hee hee hee, at least they asked if I was OKAY first and to please let
me know when they could start resending...
I really enjoy working with all of you here at WI... Catching up (only 125
emails to go). R/S MAK
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I was following the thread on why are there so many (places to post info) and
where should I put it, and wanted to add a few comments. First, most people
don't understand that USGenConnect is affilicated with Rootsweb. Therefore,
the engine search is at a national and county level with Rootsweb, NOT
USGenWeb. So when you use the USGenConnect search engines, you only get
information submitted at rootsweb. USGenWeb does have it's own search engine,
and it can be programed at the county and national level also. And when you
use their search engine, you only get information from USGenWeb.
I use this simple example. There are three libraries within my area, one is
county and two are cities. They have books, magazines and other resrouces,
etc, and different people work at them and they serve some of the same
clienteel... Now, which one do you use? I would say, all three for differing
resources...
Those of us who had accounts at rootsweb grumbled enough about having to do
"extra" work, that the USGenConnect Boards were created. So, if you have your
USGenWeb counties at rootsweb, it makes sense to make use of the USGenConnect,
rather than post it on your pages separately (MY OPINION and MY PREFERENCE),
but you are not required to do so. Some people don't have their accounts at
rootsweb and may not "trust" rootsweb, so don't use the USGenConnect Boards,
and use USGenWeb. There are also several other organizations which can be
used... like ALHN and WLHN, smaller and normally concentrate on history...
Now, the Archives are part of the USGenWeb program. If you put your
information in at USGenConnect and for some reason it goes away, then USGenWeb
wouldn't have it in their Archives. And vice versa. Therefore, some of us put
it in more than one place, and sometimes in differing formats. I normally ask
people to type it in an email, and cut and paste it to the USGenConnect Board.
Whew, hope I didn't confuse anyone. R/S MAK
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Hi Fellow CC's,
Wow, I've been reading all of the communication back and forth over the
weekend, and I have to say, I like it! Questions are good, suggestions
are good, and the general attitude of helping each other is really
wonderful to see. I haven't seen any messages in the "redundancy" vein
today, but would like to add my 2¢ worth. I am guilty of redundancy. I
post most of my data both on my counties' main webpages and also in
their archives. I also like to send a link to the Special Projects that
Rootsweb hosts, such as the Tombstone Transcription project. The reason
why I do this is that some people only browse through the 'pretty'
county pages, while others only search through the text files because
they only want the 'meat' of the material. Still others are only aware
of the Special Projects websites. So, by posting them to every area
that these records can possibly be posted at, they WILL be seen by those
who otherwise might not find them. It is my way of trying to help those
that can't get to the area to do the research themselves, and also,
since I can't get to the county seats of all of my counties either, by
plastering as much info out there as I can, maybe something will be the
key to what that far-away researcher needs. I also send alot of this
info out on my mail lists in the form of "daily news". So, I guess I
really AM guilty of being redundant -- but no one has complained yet!
Having said that, Tina, I have another cemetery that's been added to the
Burnett Co. Archives that I would also like to donate to the Tombstone
Transcription Project. This one is for the Davidson Island Cemetery, a
history of one of the earliest cemeteries in Burnett Co., and one that
is little known. Most of the graves are unmarked, but the story is very
interesting. The URL is
ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/wi/burnett/cemeteries/davidisl.txt
Thanks for the opportunity to get the info out there!
--
Nance
mailto:nsampson@spacestar.net
Thanks to all of you for the response. I have gotten something that a
person wanted posted - which I think is good material.
Thanks Melissa - as you can see - I am one of those persons who like to
forge ahead and only read the rules if I have to. That is after I can't
figure out how to do it any other way!!! (And I have read all the rules -
way back - who remembers.) <g>
All I want to do is link from the front page to a publications available and
do think it best to state that the USGW, WIGenWeb and myself are in no way
endorsing any materials.
Thanks again,
Jan
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Here is what it says in the bylaws:
"...A website may list research materials and/or services which may be for
sale/hire, either by the coordinator, a genealogy society, or others. Such a
listing shall not be on the main web page for the site, but may be linked
from the main web page. It may be appropriate to include a disclaimer that
the coordinator and The USGenWeb Project do not guarantee the contents of
such research materials and/or the expertise of any professional
researchers. "
So it seems that so long as it's not on the main page than it's OK.
Melissa
>From: "Jan & Glenn" <cristian(a)netonecom.net>
>To: WIGEN-L(a)rootsweb.com
>Subject: [WIGEN-L] Question???
>Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 21:06:35 -0400
>
>Have never done anything like this - but can some one tell me if it is okay
>if I list publications for sale that are available, and cover county
>vitals,
>etc.
>
>If so - would we need some sort of disclaimer on the page?????
>
>
>
>
>Visit Jansdigs for History & Genealogy - New & Under Construction
>http://www.jansdigs.com/
>Check Out Internet Pathways in History
>http://www.ipih.org/
>
>
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YES, my point exactly! Why add to people's confusion?
>From: "Shari Milks" <skeeter(a)peoplepc.com>
>Reply-To: "Shari Milks" <skeeter(a)peoplepc.com>
>To: WIGEN-L(a)rootsweb.com
>Subject: [WIGEN-L] Archives
>Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 16:11:33 -0500
>
>I have everything on my county page. I find it less confusing for the
>researcher if everything is in one spot. I put obits with the tombstone
>inscriptions whenever possible, family information and pictures in the
>marriages. I feel the fewer lists especially ones that are scattered here
>and there, the easier it is for them to find what they are looking for.
>It's a "one stop shop".<G>
>Shari Milks, Manitowoc county
>
>
>==== WIGEN Mailing List ====
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I have my own search engine for my county page. I think it's great and it's
makes searching the county page much much easier, but that's not what I was
talking about. I mean something that would search ALL the county pages at
once. You still have to be at my county page to use the search engine as it
is now. Someone who has no clue their relatives migrated to such and such
county will have no idea to look there.
The way the bot for the search engine I use (and probably the one others
use) takes your web page address and searches all files below that main
thread you enter. What I'm trying to get across here is that if rootsweb
made their own search engine (which they already have for the archives and
other separate projects) and made the main stem be rootsweb.com, the bot
would index everything below that. So everything below rootsweb.com, like
rootsweb.com/~wigen.. /~wikewaun.. /~wirusk all down the line along with all
the files below the county stems would be indexed. Each county would not
have to be entered separate. The only problems I see with something like
this is that I think rootsweb is selling web space to non-genealogy related
sites. Also the people who don't have their county pages on a rootsweb
server wouldn't be included for obvious reasons. On the plus side though,
it would also index those personal sites that people have that ARE genealogy
related.
It could even be done on a state level, but a national level would be much
better.
Ah well, I suppose nothing will ever come of this anyway and it'll just be
my responsibility to include the other projects more in my county page.
(which is a good idea to begin with) but I still think we could come up with
a better use of time.
Melissa
>From: "Kelly & the Flock" <kellyj(a)snowcrest.net>
>Reply-To: <kellyj(a)snowcrest.net>
>To: WIGEN-L(a)rootsweb.com
>Subject: RE: [WIGEN-L] Late Night Thinking
>Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 14:21:12 -0700
>
>
>Actually Melissa, you can do your own search engine. I found this (Maybe
>Tim
>found this) and it works terrifically for my Monroe County, OH site...
>which
>does have a lot of data on it.
>
>http://www.picosearch.com/
>
>This will index all of your pages, and then your pages are completely
>searchable. It is also unobstrusive and doesn't require huge ads or any
>ugly
>things on your page <grin>. What you ask sounds simple, but the search
>engine would have to be individually set up for each county.
>
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Paula,
We have a book on sale at the Polk Co., Wi Museum ($55.00) which is a remake of
a 1888 history by W.L. Folsum called "50 years in the Northwest" which is a 3"
book listing all of the counties of Northwest Wisconsin and part of Minnesota
"i.e." Washington Co., Pine Co. Chisago Co. Etc.
Is this the same book? I also have the book from 1909 published by the
Stillwater paper by
A. B. Easton. called the " History of St. Croix Valley" which is a 2 volume set.
Listing not only the founding fathers of the communities but the bios of just
regular "folk" , farmers, merchants, and neighbors which gives more of a sense
of community and the genealogy of the neighborhood.
Marie - CC Polk Co.
Paula Vaughan wrote:
> For those of you who had asked what other counties were in the History of
> Northern Wisconsin-I checked the book at the library today and here are the
> counties covered in the book. Some of the counties have alot of
> details/information and others have very little.
>
> Adams, Ashland, Barron, Bayfield, Brown, Buffalo, Burnett, Calumet,
> Chippewa, Clark, Door, Douglas, Dunn, EuClaire, Green Lake, Juneau, Jackson,
> Kewaunee, Langlade, Lincoln, LaCrosse, Manitowac, Marathon, Marinette,
> Marquette, Monroe, Oconto, Outagamie, Pepin, Pierce, Polk, Portage, Price,
> Shawano, St. Croix, Sheboygan, Taylor, Trempealeau, Waupaca, Winnebago and
> Wood.
>
> Paula
> WaupacaCC
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Have never done anything like this - but can some one tell me if it is okay
if I list publications for sale that are available, and cover county vitals,
etc.
If so - would we need some sort of disclaimer on the page?????
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Kelly-
I too try to link as much as I can from my website. I spend time searching
the net to find links that can help the researchers of Waupaca County.
I will have to play with the archives and text thing as see what I can do.
Paula
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Hi again,
I understand the point of the archives with the national search capabilities
and I'm all for that, but why can't there be a search engine that DOES cover
the county level if they are on the rootsweb server? It might take a little
longer, but just let that be an option on the search page. Also, if it's
still all about the archives than all of the files we have on our county
site could realistically go into the archives project, except for maybe
queries, but library and historical society contact info too (the info we're
supposed to have) and our county sites would be absolutely obsolete. That
just doesn't feel right to me, and I don't think that's what we're striving
for. Besides the question of what was brought up the other day. If we're
submitting all the goodie info to the archives what happens when someone
emails the state coordinator complaining that the page hasn't been updated
in a year. The researcher appears to not be enlightened on the archives
thing even though a lot of us probably have links to the archives on our
page as well. If things are better off in the archives then we probably
need to advertise that more. To the CC's and the researchers.
What I personally don't like while trying to look things up in the usgenweb
system is all the different places I have to go for just one county. First
I go to the county page, then I go to the archives to see if anything is
there, then I visit the genconnect boards (which usually aren't even linked
from anywhere) It would be nice if there was a search that covered at least
the archives and county pages. It's also good I think to have links to
files on the archives like someone else mentioned if it's not already on
their page. That's what I'm talking about here, just a coming together of
some of these different projects to make things easier on everyone.
I have notetab, but I use frontpage which I like a lot more for page making.
I'll have to try the conversion thing. I've always just started over when
doing something new, which is why I've never submitted anything to the
archives though I've been thinking about it for awhile.
Melissa
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Oh, I have two search engines on my site. If one isn't working right, there is another one to use. They are both free ones, and I can have the site reindexed anytime I add new material, which is almost every day.
Shari Milks, Manitowoc county
I have everything on my county page. I find it less confusing for the researcher if everything is in one spot. I put obits with the tombstone inscriptions whenever possible, family information and pictures in the marriages. I feel the fewer lists especially ones that are scattered here and there, the easier it is for them to find what they are looking for. It's a "one stop shop".<G>
Shari Milks, Manitowoc county
For those of you who had asked what other counties were in the History of
Northern Wisconsin-I checked the book at the library today and here are the
counties covered in the book. Some of the counties have alot of
details/information and others have very little.
Adams, Ashland, Barron, Bayfield, Brown, Buffalo, Burnett, Calumet,
Chippewa, Clark, Door, Douglas, Dunn, EuClaire, Green Lake, Juneau, Jackson,
Kewaunee, Langlade, Lincoln, LaCrosse, Manitowac, Marathon, Marinette,
Marquette, Monroe, Oconto, Outagamie, Pepin, Pierce, Polk, Portage, Price,
Shawano, St. Croix, Sheboygan, Taylor, Trempealeau, Waupaca, Winnebago and
Wood.
Paula
WaupacaCC
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