Some descendants of Richard Robbins (b. c1710-12) of Rowan Co., NC, have
already had DNA tests. Some results can be seen at
[
1]http://www.ftdna.com/public/robins
The results match descendants of Daniel Robins (c1627-1714) of Scotland and
New Jersey, and support my warnings that the Welsh story is a myth and that
the emigrant Isaac is fictional. (I have posted several comments about this
on the Robbins board at
GenForum.com).
I do wish however that a male line descendant of Moses Robbins would
participate in the Robins DNA project. The paper trail does not give much
support to the claim that John Robbins was a son of Richard Robbins, but the
DNA test suggests a branching marker may be found among Richard's
descendants.
Nelda Percival wrote:
Hey Theresa and Steve,
Did you know a YDNA study could prove or disprove any relationship between the
descendants of the three brothers? Steve your:
(Family tradition is that three brothers came to America, Richard to N. C., on
e who went to New York, and one who went to Virginia. No confirming info at thi
s time).
I run a Ydna project for a different surname, but I like to share the informati
on on how it can be done....
If your interested go read my webpage about my Gilpin project:
[
2]http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/
It helps you understand how / why it works.
Nelda
From: [3]steve(a)economywebdesign.com> To: [4]tres257(a)yahoo.com; [5]wayne_in@root
sweb.com> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 16:29:00 -0800> Subject: Re: [WAYNE_IN] Moses
and Alice Harlan Robbins> > Theresa;> > Thanks for your reply. I know we have
c
onversed via e-mail before.> > You have filled in many blanks and left me curio
us for others. I am not surprised to hear that some facts may be a little off,
since family research was done in the 40's through 60's by one aunt, Elma Maltz
berger, who devoted much of her lifetime gleaning facts from family members and
distant relatives she encountered on her vacation searches. I am still trying
to find the time to put it all together and verify accuracy where I can.> > My
ancestra
l lineage on that branch of the family REPORTEDLY started with our emigrant anc
estor Isaac Robbins, who brought at least two children, Elisha and Richard to N
orth Carolina from Wales. (Family tradition is that three brothers came to Amer
ica, Richard to N. C., one who went to N!
ew York, and one who went to Virginia. No confirming info at this time). Richa
rd b. ca 1712 in Wales, was the progenator of the Indiana Robbins lineage. Rich
ard had six sons who may have come to America some time later to join their fat
her. In any event, Richards sons were (Richard, William, James, Isaac, John, an
d Michael). John (b.1741) m. Sarah Curtice (or Curtis, it is listed both ways i
n family records, but I think Curtice is correct) in Rowan Co., N. C., in 1763.
The Rev. John & Sarah Curtice Robbins> [AT THIS POINT, MY BRANCH TOOK A DECISI
VE SWING TO THE DISTAFF SIDE OF THE LINEAGE] >Ruth Robbins & Solomon Madden> El
izabeth Robbins Madden & Seymour Douglass> Martha Douglass & Jose!> phus
Edging
ton> Alice Edgington & James Fulton Thursby> Alice Arline Thursby & Gerard
Gile
s Davis> then ME .> > With regard to John's Revolutionary war service, my
Aunt
Elma's records indicate John served in the R
evolutionary war as a chaplain, achieving the rank of Corporal. He allegedly!
"served 84 months in the "Continental Line" and suffered a se!
vere hea
d would in the Battle of Guilford Courthouse on May 15, 1781, ... while fightin
g under General Nathaniel Greene."> > With regard to religion, her records
stat
ed, "John's son Moses seems to have broken with the Baptist faith of his forebe
arers and had become a Methodist by the time he was ready to migrate to Indiana
, but this was most likely due to the fact that he moved away from the area he
was raised, a little further away, but still within Randolph County, and the cl
osest church may have been Methodist."> > Interesting you should choose
Elizabe
th Robbins Crawford as the 'favorite' Robbins story. > > I moved here to
Lakepo
rt, Lake County, CA about fifteen years ago from Southern California. People up
here are kind of snobby about 'flatlanders' coming up here from SoCal. I heard
from all the 'pioneer families'. One day, I was entering data from family reco
rds regarding the Robbins branch of the family into my Genealogy software and c
ame across Elizabeth Ro
bbins, m. James Cr!
awford in Indiana, and died 1-2-88 in Ukiah, Mendocino County, CA. As it turne
d out, my G-g-g-g-great aunt, Elizabeth Robbins Crawford, was one of (probably
within 5 years) the first white women to enter into Lake County in the 1870's a
nd predated many of the "pioneer" snobs. As the result of their emigration, Cra
wford is also considered a pioneer name in this region. > > "Wow," I said,
"Tha
t is only 30 miles away, just over the border from Lake County, where I reside.
Shortly later, I discovered her daughter, Eliza Crawford Johnson, whose death
was recorded in Lake County. I found that Eliza was supposedly buried in the ol
d cemetary in Upper Lake, 6 miles away, so I went to find her headstone. I drov
e to the "old" cemetary which was in great disrepair, parked in a wide spot and
my wife and I split up and began searching headstones for Eliza. After an hour
of searching in vain, we met up at my truck and decided to try again another d
ay, when I glanced at the graveston
e I ha!
d parked closest to and there it was, right in front of me. I !
have pho
tos, but I can't put my hands on them right now.> > Further research found that
the pioneer mother, Elizabeth Robbins Crawford, was not buried in Ukiah, but w
as actually buried in a pioneer's cemetary in Hopland, a still rural town just
over the line from Lake County. I tracked down her burial location and headston
e after little trouble and have photos of it also. It had apparently been broke
n and someone repaired it through the years.> > In spite of the Lake County con
nection, My most 'interesting' was the family of Moses Robbins II, whom I have
as married to Sarah Elizabeth Long. To have lost their five youngest children t
o Scarlet Fever, and to have to have buried them all within 8 days, including f
our within two days, is incomprehensible to me. Such toughness was the life of
the pioneers, though.> > Hope to converse with you more soon.> > Steve
Davis> >
----- Original Message ----- > From: "Theresa Berghoff"
[6]<tres257(a)yahoo.com>
To: [7]<wayne_in(a)rootsweb.com>> Sent: Monday,!
November 24, 2008 10:44 PM> Subject: Re: [WAYNE_IN] Moses and Alice Harlan Ro
bbins>
References
1.
http://www.ftdna.com/public/robins
2.
http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/
3. mailto:steve@economywebdesign.com
4. mailto:tres257@yahoo.com
5. mailto:wayne_in@rootsweb.com
6. mailto:tres257@yahoo.com
7. mailto:wayne_in@rootsweb.com