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----- Original Message -----
From: kshort <kshort(a)kroo.com>
To: <STATE-COORD-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2000 11:30 PM
Subject: [STATE-COORD-L] Election Committee
> TO: ALL State Coordinators
>
> Please forward this message to all cc's.
>
> Its time for elections and the advisory board is asking for County
> Coordinator (CC's) volunteers to serve on the election committee. If you
> are willing to serve, forward your name, position (CC of x county) to
> <nominate_2000(a)yahoo.com>, not later than Sunday, 21 May 2000, 2400 hours,
EDT.
>
> Ken Short
> Board Secretary
>
>
>
FWIW,
I HATE all the pop up ads on the first one.
The second is much politer --- 8^)
Freddie S.
From: Tim Stowell <tstowell(a)mccallie.org>
You may wish to pass this along to your CCs:
http://www.all-links.com/newscentral/northamerica/unitedstates.html
From: Tim Stowell <tstowell(a)mccallie.org>
The following link was also sent me this morning. It appears to have
better coverage than the first URL I sent.
http://ajr.newslink.org/statnews.html
Bath Co., VA. site Updated
Patricia
At 10:26 PM 5/14/00 -0400, you wrote:
>The Rockingham Co. VAGenWeb site has been moved to:
>
>http://www.rootsweb.com/~varockin/
>
>If you have links to my site, please update them.
>
>Thanks!
>Harriet Welch
Thanks, Mary!
I've added that link, and some others I had found:
http://www.rootsweb.com/~vagenweb/bb.htm
Linda
"Mary D. Taffet" wrote:
>
> http://www.longacrebb.com/
>
> My grandmother was an interior decorator with a flair towards historical
> items; the current owners are trying to show as much of that original
> flair as possible.
>
> What would it take to get this home included on the VAGENWEB page?
>
> If this question is one that I should already know the answer to as a CC,
> then please forgive me as I am fairly new to CC'ship.
>
> -- Thanks,
> Mary Taffet
> Prince Edward CC
Hello,
This evening I was looking on the Bed & Breakfast page located at:
http://www.rootsweb.com/~vagenweb/bb.htm
I am wondering what the criteria are to be included here. The reason I
ask is that the home my father grew up in, which was built by my
grandparents, has recently been turned into a Bed & Breakfast. It is
located in Appomattox County, and even has a webpage (with a good picture
of the home):
http://www.longacrebb.com/
My grandmother was an interior decorator with a flair towards historical
items; the current owners are trying to show as much of that original
flair as possible.
What would it take to get this home included on the VAGENWEB page?
If this question is one that I should already know the answer to as a CC,
then please forgive me as I am fairly new to CC'ship.
-- Thanks,
Mary Taffet
Prince Edward CC
The Rockingham Co. VAGenWeb site has been moved to:
http://www.rootsweb.com/~varockin/
If you have links to my site, please update them.
Thanks!
Harriet Welch
I have tried to change it and i dont understand why it isnt fixed. i'l try
again. i always respond to you. -----sigh.-----
Rena
-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Coffey <wcoffey(a)mindspring.com>
To: VAGEN-L(a)rootsweb.com <VAGEN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Date: Sunday, May 14, 2000 3:07 PM
Subject: [VAGEN-L] Rockbridge Co., VA Update
>Rena,
>
>Is there any reason why this change still has NOT been made???????
>I have been asking you to make the change since November 1999 and
>it still is not made. <sigh>
>
>
>PLEASE update your Rockbridge Co., VA page so that it reflects
>the correct address for Nelson Co., VA. The address for the
>Nelson Co., VA page is:
>
>http://www.rootsweb.com/~vanelson
>
>Your Rockbridge Co. page address where you have the broken
>link to Nelson Co., VA is:
>
>http://www.rootsweb.com/~varockbr/rock.htm
>
>Wayne
>
Rena,
Is there any reason why this change still has NOT been made???????
I have been asking you to make the change since November 1999 and
it still is not made. <sigh>
PLEASE update your Rockbridge Co., VA page so that it reflects
the correct address for Nelson Co., VA. The address for the
Nelson Co., VA page is:
http://www.rootsweb.com/~vanelson
Your Rockbridge Co. page address where you have the broken
link to Nelson Co., VA is:
http://www.rootsweb.com/~varockbr/rock.htm
Wayne
I wrote to the submitter to let her know about the change in her file.
Linda
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: RE: Linden Cemetery
Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 02:23:09 -0400
From: "McGlynn" <mcglynn(a)softhome.net>
To: "Linda Lewis" <cityslic(a)ix.netcom.com>
My mothers notes did say 1839. I thought I'd caught all the errors on
my
follow-up walk-through. Thank you for changing it.
> Linda, the actual census is not online. The index is online at:
> ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/va/shenandoah/census/1850indx.txt
>
> McWilliams appears on pages 1, 89B, 107 in SK Publications book for Shen.
> Co. 1850.
>
I contacted SK and John sent a corrected file which is now online,
replacing the old one.
A note was added to the below file, which is actually at:
ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/va/warren/cemeteries/
> The URL for the Linden Cemetery is:
> http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ifetch2?/u1/data/va+index+576791859654+
> F
>
> Showers, Annie Roy, wife of B.J. Showers, Born May 16 1839, Died Mar 3 1921,
> "Peaceful be thy sleep dear Annie it is sweet to breathe thy name in life I
> loved you
> dearly, in death I do the same"
>
> Annie Roy Figgins Showers was born May 16, 1889. The death date is correct.
> She is the daughter-in-law of
> Showers, George W., 1858 - 1935
> Sarah E., 1861 - 1931, "Gone but not Forgotten"
>
> She would be 48 years older than her husband if the birth date of 1839 was
> correct.....which it isn't.
>
> Would appreciate it very much if these entries were corrected.
>
> Alley
Thanks for pointing those out, Alley. :)
Linda
> We have to be careful about changing original information, or
> interpretations, or even changing a transcribers' work.
Hi LInda,
I know. That's why I offered proof. I've been asked to make changes on my
own web pages and I won't do it without proof even when the writer says "It
is MY direct line" because that doesn't prove the writer is correct.
I visited Linden Cemetery and took photos of the stones because my granddad
and his parents are buried there. The stone in question is for the woman
who married my great uncle who lived next door to my grandmother and the
stone's inscription was so sweet I took a keen interest.
Alley
Linda, the actual census is not online. The index is online at:
ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/va/shenandoah/census/1850indx.txt
McWilliams appears on pages 1, 89B, 107 in SK Publications book for Shen.
Co. 1850.
The URL for the Linden Cemetery is:
http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ifetch2?/u1/data/va+index+576791859654+
F
Showers, Annie Roy, wife of B.J. Showers, Born May 16 1839, Died Mar 3 1921,
"Peaceful be thy sleep dear Annie it is sweet to breathe thy name in life I
loved you
dearly, in death I do the same"
Annie Roy Figgins Showers was born May 16, 1889. The death date is correct.
She is the daughter-in-law of
Showers, George W., 1858 - 1935
Sarah E., 1861 - 1931, "Gone but not Forgotten"
She would be 48 years older than her husband if the birth date of 1839 was
correct.....which it isn't.
Would appreciate it very much if these entries were corrected.
Alley
> >
> >1) 1850 Shenandoah Co census lists George McWilliams as George Williams.
>
> Alley, what's the URL for that census? I don't see it in the Archives at
> all.
>
> Linda
>
>
Sorry.. I didn't see this the first time.
You can ask any question about the Archives. The mailing list is also
unarchived and can be searched. ARCHIVES-L
The guidelines have been in place since June 1996:
http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/timetodo.htm
By "same rules and regulations"... sure! The USGenWeb Archives must also
be in compliance with the USGW By-laws, or risk being delinked, just
like any XXGenWeb.
Linda
> You over looked one of my questions, so I will ask this question again,
> regarding whether the archives falls under USGenweb By-laws. Are the
> archives under the same rules and regulations as the rest of us? I have
> been hearing all kinds of rumors and since I am new to the project, I am
> not sure where the "appropriate" place would be to ask this question, so
> will ask it here. I also get "lost" when messages are "snipped", so maybe
> I am not just not understanding all of this?????
> Best Regards,
> Dodie Browning
Thanks Linda,
I understood that "porn" was an example, but if a board member used it (or
anyone else.) It is inflammatory, and could cloud the real issue. So you
are saying under the new proposal that if we have something the NC deems
"inappropriate" that we are delinked and then given two weeks to comply
with what the NC considers "appropriate", or be removed from the project?
The word "inappropriate" is what I am having problems understanding. If
wording in rules are plain and specific, then it leaves no room for
mis-understandings. (can't seem to get past my family therapy training-)
<grin>
You over looked one of my questions, so I will ask this question again,
regarding whether the archives falls under USGenweb By-laws. Are the
archives under the same rules and regulations as the rest of us? I have
been hearing all kinds of rumors and since I am new to the project, I am
not sure where the "appropriate" place would be to ask this question, so
will ask it here. I also get "lost" when messages are "snipped", so maybe
I am not just not understanding all of this?????
Best Regards,
Dodie Browning
-----Original Message-----
From: Linda Lewis <cityslic(a)ix.netcom.com>
To: VAGEN-L(a)rootsweb.com <VAGEN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Date: Friday, May 12, 2000 5:04 PM
Subject: Re: [VAGEN-L] Proposal
>
>> I would *not* vote for the proposal the way it is worded. The new
proposal
>> is arbitrary and so is the previous one. IMO when too much power is
given
>> to one person, it can easily become a dictatorship. If "porn" is the
>> issue, then why not word the proposal as such, so people do not
>> misunderstand? The way the proposal is worded would make me afraid to
post
>> anything on my website, because an NC who didn't like something I had
>> posted, or thought it was "inappropriate" could lock me out of my own
page
>> and take it over with no warning. "Inappropriate" is too arbitrary-
and
>> leaves the interpretation open to subjective opinions and whims.
>> Best Regards,
>> Dodie Browning
>> CC-Tazewell County
>>
>
>Oh.. I should have clarified your last paragraph, too. The proposal
>would not give the nc or AB power to "lock" anyone out of their pages.
>
>Linda
>
At 12:12 PM 05/12/2000 -0400, Alley Blackford wrote:
>If the purpose of the archives is to always have info online for
>researchers, then shouldn't that info be corrected if what was submitted is
>incorrect and proof is offered for corrections?
>
>Two examples that I know of:
>
>1) 1850 Shenandoah Co census lists George McWilliams as George Williams.
Alley, what's the URL for that census? I don't see it in the Archives at
all.
Linda
Hi Alley,
Several of us could make the corrections to VA files, including Harriet,
Jeannie, Yvonne and me.
We have to be careful about changing original information, or
interpretations, or even changing a transcribers' work. In the case of a
census transcription, did you contact the transcriber or proofreader?
Linda
Alley Blackford wrote:
>
> If the purpose of the archives is to always have info online for
> researchers, then shouldn't that info be corrected if what was submitted is
> incorrect and proof is offered for corrections?
>
> Two examples that I know of:
>
> 1) 1850 Shenandoah Co census lists George McWilliams as George Williams.
>
> SK Publication has McWms listed as Williams in the index and the info online
> duplicates the error. The proof is on the actual census page. I have a
> copy and can provide proof.
>
> 2) Linden Cemetery in Warren Co, VA gives incorrect date of birth for Annie
> Showers.
>
> I have a picture of her tombstone.
>
> I wrote to two different people about these errors. One reply was that the
> writer didn't know if the census online could be changed after it was
> online. I didn't receive a reply regarding the tombstone.
>
> The tombstone records of Linden Cemetery have now been copied to another
> website and the copy contains the same error. (The copying is an assumption
> on my part because if someone viewed the tombstone they would see the
> correct date. I think the submitted date of birth could be a typo.)
>
> Is it really impossible to correct errors in archives?
>
> Alley Blackford
> Shenandoah Co VAGenWeb CC
> alleyb(a)worldnet.att.net
> I would *not* vote for the proposal the way it is worded. The new proposal
> is arbitrary and so is the previous one. IMO when too much power is given
> to one person, it can easily become a dictatorship. If "porn" is the
> issue, then why not word the proposal as such, so people do not
> misunderstand? The way the proposal is worded would make me afraid to post
> anything on my website, because an NC who didn't like something I had
> posted, or thought it was "inappropriate" could lock me out of my own page
> and take it over with no warning. "Inappropriate" is too arbitrary- and
> leaves the interpretation open to subjective opinions and whims.
> Best Regards,
> Dodie Browning
> CC-Tazewell County
>
Oh.. I should have clarified your last paragraph, too. The proposal
would not give the nc or AB power to "lock" anyone out of their pages.
Linda
daisyoday wrote:
>
> Did I miss something here? What does porn have to do with the USGenweb
> sites? I read this as an example. I can't imagine that any volunteer with
> the US Genweb would have "porn" on their pages. Isn't this proposal a
> result of the delinking by the NC of the original USGenweb Census project
> without a vote?
>
Dodie, that's one of my reasons. If this wording had been in the
by-laws, the "delinking by the NC" could have been temporary, giving the
the offender time to bring the site into compliance.
"Porn" was an example in my message, not included in the proposal,
because that was the example given to me by one of our board reps.
Linda
If the purpose of the archives is to always have info online for
researchers, then shouldn't that info be corrected if what was submitted is
incorrect and proof is offered for corrections?
Two examples that I know of:
1) 1850 Shenandoah Co census lists George McWilliams as George Williams.
SK Publication has McWms listed as Williams in the index and the info online
duplicates the error. The proof is on the actual census page. I have a
copy and can provide proof.
2) Linden Cemetery in Warren Co, VA gives incorrect date of birth for Annie
Showers.
I have a picture of her tombstone.
I wrote to two different people about these errors. One reply was that the
writer didn't know if the census online could be changed after it was
online. I didn't receive a reply regarding the tombstone.
The tombstone records of Linden Cemetery have now been copied to another
website and the copy contains the same error. (The copying is an assumption
on my part because if someone viewed the tombstone they would see the
correct date. I think the submitted date of birth could be a typo.)
Is it really impossible to correct errors in archives?
Alley Blackford
Shenandoah Co VAGenWeb CC
alleyb(a)worldnet.att.net
I am really sympathetic to the problem of errors on the Internet. However,
we need to consider whether the error is in the orginal document or in the
transcription of the original document. For example, Chalkley's Chronicles
.... involved the scanning of three volumes of court records, about 1800
pages of material. There are errors made in the original text. We do not
correct those errors even though someone comes along and points out that
the spelling of a surname is wrong. Spelling was a relative thing in the
18th century. However, if what appears online is different from the
original, then we change it. Hopefully there is not much of this because
we did have a very careful system of proofing. None-the-less errors can
creep in, and these must be fixed.
Of greater concern to me is the total lack of any recognition on the part
of the USGenWeb entity that we help spread around a lot of misinformation.
The "project" takes no responsibility in trying to improve the lot of the
flawed information which we help disseminate.
Just as one small example, when the Augusta County started using GenConnect
boards, I tried to stem the tide, at least for Augusta County, of posting
hokey information on the system by giving some rules of good citation.
http://www.rootsweb.com/~vaaugust/augusta3.htm
Not sure it does any good, but it makes me feel better. :)
Carmen Finley
At 12:12 PM 05/12/2000 -0400, Alley Blackford wrote:
>If the purpose of the archives is to always have info online for
>researchers, then shouldn't that info be corrected if what was submitted is
>incorrect and proof is offered for corrections?
>
>Two examples that I know of:
>
>1) 1850 Shenandoah Co census lists George McWilliams as George Williams.
>
>SK Publication has McWms listed as Williams in the index and the info online
>duplicates the error. The proof is on the actual census page. I have a
>copy and can provide proof.
>
>2) Linden Cemetery in Warren Co, VA gives incorrect date of birth for Annie
>Showers.
>
>I have a picture of her tombstone.
>
>I wrote to two different people about these errors. One reply was that the
>writer didn't know if the census online could be changed after it was
>online. I didn't receive a reply regarding the tombstone.
>
>The tombstone records of Linden Cemetery have now been copied to another
>website and the copy contains the same error. (The copying is an assumption
>on my part because if someone viewed the tombstone they would see the
>correct date. I think the submitted date of birth could be a typo.)
>
>Is it really impossible to correct errors in archives?
>
>Alley Blackford
>Shenandoah Co VAGenWeb CC
>alleyb(a)worldnet.att.net
>
>
>
>
>
>
>