I have a small McCarty puzzle. Bill said his dad or grandad was named
Wyly McCarty. It made me curious, . Then we went to West Monroe, La.
where a Wyly descendant and cousin Mattie Roberts Somerville of West
Monroe had passed away and her husband called me to pick up her research
files. I have checked them some. Mattie was in DAR and a leader in the
Natchitoches, La. Chapter. Mattie was also descended from a McCarty line
and had records back to the immigrant or near to him. She was also a
Roberts Descendant, but on a different line than I am. She , 9n doing her
research, had begun to wonder about our connection to Brushy Bill Roberts
AKA William Bonney (Bonney for his Aunt's second husband)AKA Billy
McCarty, (His aunt's name) AKA William Roberts, buried near Hico. He was
born in Buffalo Gap and his dad left for the Civil war, and returned to
find his wife dead and son gone with his (Billy's Aunt) to Oklahoma,
where he rode with Quantrill or Jesse HJames. When Billy was 12 he and
his aunt visited his dad in a James- Quantrill-Younger campout and
supposedly Jesse taught him how to shoot at a full gallop, holding his
rifle under the horse's neck.
Seems also that Jesse James and Jesse Woodson James were very close
cousins and rode together, sober, as they did not trust drunks on their
Mr. Courtney of Blevins Community, near Temple also performed this trick
shot by shooting a chicken's head off for unexpected Sunday company after
church at Little Deer Creek Baptist, which is still open and minutes back
that far still exist. Then , his granddaughter found a photo in an attic
Trunk (Betty Dorsett Duke) of the Choctaw Mother of Jesse James , with
one arm missing and the same dress as in the Missouri Museum photo. She
lost the arm from a bomb thrown into the house by Pinkerton Bounty
hunters. One Courtney was a Temple Mayor and the Texas State Veteran's
Land Board Home for vets, or their spouses, or Gold Star Mothers, is
named for Mr. William Courtney. Dad's sister, former Capt Mary E. Wyly ,
R.N. is now 90 and lives in the home and our cousin H.D. Kay passed away
there. he was from Selden and a Retired Troy , Texas Ag Teacher.
Also, I was told that Duffau McCartys and Walnut Springs McCartys were
not related- and Fretwells from Duffau and Scott Fretwell of Crossroads-
Chalk Mountain area were not related. Is that correct?
More later- Busy week coming up.
On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 17:32:58 -0800 David Salmon <dsalmon(a)salmon.org>
Here is some more about the hanging of the Edwards boys:
GENEALOGICAL INFORMATION: Joseph Edwards, age 19, and
brother Thomas, age 16, were out riding in the year 1873,
month of September when they came in view of a band of
cattle rustlers a few miles southwest of the community that
years later became known as Clairette. The brothers did not
approach the rustlers but one in the band did recognize the
brothers and informed the outlaw bosses. That night riders
came to the home of Joseph Edwards and asked the two to
accompany the riders which they did. The brothers were
found hanged -- as they were witnesses to a crime. Joseph
Edwards had married the previous year to Barbara Susan Dowdy
and was the father of a newly born baby girl, Nancy. The
article states that Sam Edwards had one sister -- Susan,
wife of Charles Hubbard. In fact, Mr. Edwards also had a
second sister, Mary Catherine or "Kate" who was the wife of
Ben Bowman. One of this couples' daughters, Lona Mae Bowman
married William J. Taylor and were parents of Johnnie Reed
Taylor who married Blanche Carr. Blanche Carr was the
younger sister of my mother Ollie Thelma Carr McCarty.
The piece from 1894 mentions that Mr. Edwards was the father
of two children. Lane Edwards was born in 1891 and the
infant as unnamed is Lee Edwards, born in July of 1894.
Samue lV. Edwards Jr. was born in April of 1859 and died
in October of 1931. There are literally hundreds of Erath
County surnames that Mr. Edwards would have been related
to----these are but a start: Wolfe, Roberson, Lee, Dowdy,
Cook, Clark, Loden, Whiteside, Turnbow, Koonsman, Owens,
Lane, McDonald, Phillips, Johnson, Sherrard, Alexander,
Head, Luckie, Ross, Dove, Pettitt, Dow, Morrison, Allen,
Magee, Thompson..and certainly we repeat the names of
Edwards and Salmon. The Clairette cemetery was started as
the Salmon family cemetery in the late 1850s.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles A.Wyly" <wyly1(a)juno.com>
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: [ERATH] Re: U S Marshall and mistaken identity
by bounty hunters.
> I attended Stephenville H.S. with one Lawrence Bell and
> Sam Bell was our
> pastor in Hill County . He also later had a booth at
> Circle Flea Market
> where he gave away religious material and sometimes
> counseled with
> workers are visitors. Lots of Bells here in Waco. Any
> Also, in 1946 0r 47 2 loads of Johnsville farmers went to
> the Smith
> farms while home crops were laid by or harvested. They
> snapped Dry coton
> Bowlies. Bob Ford exceeded 900 pounds one day. Dad would
> go over 600
> every day, . They slept on the ground. Some Mexicans slept
> on the seed in
> a barn.
> I went on to Knox City and worked in the Co- Op gin and
> found knives and
> such in the League Ranch trailer trucks of cotton to gin.
> had a small
> accident in a high norther and my head bent his door rain
> gutter. Spent
> a week in the hospital there in a night or two, and the
> Dr. released me I
> drove to look around Benjamin and got a drink of river
> Water- on the Salt
> Fork. Then I returned to Hospital with Amoebic Dysentery.
> The money we
> all made helpped to enrich Christmas in Erath County, esp.
> Some of the Cox and Laney families had moved to Leuters
> area with old
> trucks to contract cotton harvest. It was on one such trip
> that we
> learned that the town of OLD GLORY was called NEW
> BRANDENBURG before
> WW1. I taught my first year of school at Hamlin. where
> cousin Harold
> Eades was the Ag Teacher, I did not know that when I was
> Any input on Erath County folk in Aspermont- Knox City-
> Area or the Bell
> Take care,
> Charles A. Wyly
> On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 19:13:21 -0800 g w bell
>> THANKS FOR THE UPDATE ON THE BAYLOR LINE.
>> I AM A RESIDENT OF KNOX COUNTY AND THE ADJOINING COUNTY
>> TO THE EAST IS BAYLOR COUNTY.
>> ALSO, I ATTENDED BAYLOR U. I THOUGHT JUDGE BAYLOR'S NAME
>> G BELL
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "David Salmon" <dsalmon(a)salmon.org>
>> To: <TXERATH-L(a)rootsweb.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2004 9:19 PM
>> Subject: [ERATH] Re: U S Marshall and mistaken identity
>> by bounty
>> > Hello Mr. Wyly,
>> > My own family had a couple of people hung/murdered
>> > during that
>> > descended from Joseph Salmon (1806-1863), whose
>> > daughter Elizabeth
>> > 1869) married Samuel Vaughn Edwards, whose son, Samuel
>> > V. Edwards,
>> > later Sheriff of La Salle County, Texas. Two of Samuel
>> > Vaughn
>> > Jr.'s' brothers were hung by persons unknown in Sept.
>> > 1873; they
>> about 16
>> > and 15 years of age.
>> > According to Salmon family oral history/legend, some
>> > unknown men
>> came to
>> > door of the house not long after the boys came home one
>> > evening
>> dark, and
>> > asked them to come with them. They left without saying
>> > anything;
>> > were found the next day. There was a good deal of
>> > unofficial
>> hanging going
>> > about that time as the cattle business became better
>> > organized;
>> > considered all mavericks on their land as belonging to
>> > them,
>> custom had
>> > been that mavericks could be taken and branded by
>> > anyone. The
>> > put the maverick ranchers out of business. I've
>> > wondered whether
>> > were related to this, but family legend says they were
>> > good boys
>> who did
>> no one
>> > any wrong. The family theorizes that the boys perhaps
>> > saw too
>> much, i.e.,
>> > rustlers in action, were spotted, trailed, and killed.
>> > I wonder
>> > deaths influenced their younger brother to take up law
>> > See Samuel V. Edwards
>> > http://cindyradway.tripod.com/Erath/sedwards.html
>> > "Mr. Edwards' two brothers, Tom and Joe, came to Erath
>> > County,
>> Texas, and
>> > were foully murdered one night at their home in that
>> > county. "
>> > >>>
>> > Also does anyone know the connections between John R.
>> > Baylor,
>> Ranger and
>> > George Baylor of West Texas who chased Geronimo across
>> > the Border
>> > Mexican police aid chased him back into New Mexico
>> > Mountains?
>> Also the
>> > Baylor of that era was the founder of Baylor
>> > University, R.E.B.
>> > >>>
>> > Gen. John R. Baylor was the Confederate governor of
>> > Arizona who
>> issued a
>> > notorious order to
>> > "exterminate" all the Apaches, and a constant scourge
>> > of the
>> Indians in
>> > He was associated with John Salmon (1827-1897), oldest
>> > son of
>> > Sr., and brother of my ancestor, Joseph Salmon, Jr.
>> > (1837-1920).
>> > and John Salmon served together in the frontier
>> > Rangers, John as a
>> > (There is a monument about him on the Eastland
>> > courthouse lawn, if
>> > the location correctly.) At any rate, John named one
>> > of his sons
>> > Salmon, though who knows, it might have been one of the
>> > other John
>> > had in mind.
>> > Here is some information I found on the internet.
>> > John Robert Baylor
>> > http://www.forttours.com/pages/tocbrown.asp
>> > "Don't confuse John Robert Baylor with George W.
>> > Baylor, who is in
>> > Rangers Hall of Fame. That was his brother. And don't
>> > assume that
>> > was named for him. No, that was another brother, Henry
>> > Weidner
>> Baylor. Nor
>> > Baylor University his namesake. The school, the first
>> > one
>> chartered by the
>> > Republic of Texas, was named for an uncle, Robert E.B.
>> > Baylor."
>> > 'Bob Bledsoe of Richardson, writing about John R.
>> > Baylor, noted:
>> > shouldn't be confused with Robert Emmett Bledsoe
>> > Baylor. However,
>> > his uncle. John was the son of R.E.B.'s brother, Dr.
>> > John Walker
>> > grandfather, Walker Baylor, a member of George
>> > Washington's Life
>> > Jane Bledsoe in 1781."
>> > BAYLOR, ROBERT EMMETT BLEDSOE (1793-1873)
>> > BAYLOR, JOHN WALKER (ca. 1813-1836).
>> > "[John Walker Baylor] was possibly the only Texan to
>> > fight in
>> every major
>> > of the Texas Revolution. His brothers George W., Henry
>> > W., and
>> John R.
>> > became prominent as Texas Rangers, soldiers, and Indian
>> > fighters."
>> > BAYLOR, GEORGE WYTHE (1832-1916). George Wythe Baylor,
>> > Confederate
>> > officer and Texas Ranger, the son of John Walker Baylor
>> > . . . .
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