actually he was a Presbyterian Elder. His sons and grandsons apparently
strayed into the Baptist. Mainly, Colonial law said Presbyterians , as
the State Church of Scotland , said they had first choice of the land
from Mecklenburg County south to Georgia including the Carolinas. My
Hipp ancestors of Germany lived in England a few years and were given a
grant of land by the British King. Wasn't he German born?
The plan was for these Presbyterians was for them to be a buffer zone
between raiding Indians and the British bluebloods- Episcopal or
Anglican, on the seacoast and the 4 deep water ports like Charleston.
Children of John Copeland and some of my Hipp ancestors are buried in
Huricane Baptist Church between Clinton and Newberry , S.C. with a
notation that one's dad was buried in Duncan Creek Pres. Cemetery and was
a veteran of Rev. War. I think he died from injuries fighting the
British. Other of their kin buried there in Old Laurens District include
Nabors- Neighbors, Vaughn- Vaughan, Hipp, White, Dillard, and a few
Baptists , Lutherans, Brethern, and Quakers lived in the area as
squatters or on Indian land and were allowed to buy from Episcopalians or
Anglicans- but did not get first choice to free land in the buffer zone.
When Pres. pastor John Kennedy was there and Rev. Hezekiah, Balch , Pres.
of Greeneville, Tenn. College, rode down to ordain new Elders, records
show the men wore buckskin shirts , laced, and with fringe, wrap leggings
for pants, and Indian moccisans (sp. )They clubbed their hair and tied it
with deerskin. The Duncan Creek- Newbury women wore long sack dresses,
and had wood blocks nailed to their moccisans for high heels. Rev. Balch
warned them in his sermon to avoid the "modern sinful songs of Isaac
Watts and other radicals and sing only the Psalters ( Psalms ) of the Old
John Copeland of Arkansas and Lingleville- Huckaby, grandma Nancy
Elizabeth HippCarey, s cousin of Hope, Arkansas, and Selden, Texas cousin
, settled in Erath County also. Some of his kin claimed Cherokee land in
Arkansas with less than 1/32 blood. .Grandma's parents were from Clinton
One of Rev. Balche's daughters ( there were 2 Pres. Ministers named
married Robert Wyly. Their infant son , when Robert died, gr3ew up to be
Capt. Alfred Henderson Wyly , a Sgt. Balch, and other kin and friends-
East Texas Redlanders from Henderson, Texas- who , with 2 or 3 other
groups , joined Sam Houston at Groce's Crossing and a day or so turned
and whipped Santa Anna, thanks to the Yucatecian Navy and 4 large ships
of one of the Texas Navies keeping Santa Anna's ships from leaving
Veracruz Harbor with food and ammo. The Texian Runaway scrape left Santa
Anna and no supplies was not in his plans.
Descendants of Capt. A.H. Wyly & Balch kin are in Hopkins County, and
Vega Texas- check the Sons of the Republic of Texas list. Capt. Wyly is
buried near Waller, Texas.
I am desc. from his Uncle James Wyly of Pa. & Tenn. & Ga.
Als, Great Great Grandmother Mary Murphy , buried at Indian Creek, Erath
County, was Irish Catholic. While living with Great Grandad G.M. MOxley
and his second wife Mary Ann Fleming, she would fill her corncob pipe
each night, get her Catholic Bible, and read and rock until the pipe went
out. Then bedtime.She attended Pleasant Hill Methodist and Selden Baptist
Good to hear from the Grassbur country. I enterred Providence Hosp. in
Waco last Thursday for heretary Arterial Fibulation, and Dr. Schultz
laid down the rules and control. He , with Drs. Schultz Jr., Dr. Peper,
and 3 others are up to speed on open heart surgery and control and
prevention and have offices in both Providence Cathoplic and Hillcrest
Baptist hospitals. Good to be here- good to be anywhere.
Take care and thanks,
Charles A. Wyly
On Thu, 20 Jul 2000 13:45:49 -0500 Charles Blakley <geneb(a)htcomp.net>
"Charles A. Wyly" wrote:
> Thought some might be interested in this one. My John Copeland
> John Copeland of Duncan Creek, South Carolina and his children were
Well Charles, the Baptist were few and far between there then, so he
chose a Presbyterian for a spouse, eh?