and thanks, McCartys. I was thinking of the same as you wrote, but may I
add that a large - some say half- of Columbus's sailors were of Basque
origin in the Pyrineyes MountainsThis was the home of another missionary-
St. Francis Xavier- who was buried in France. Some of his family became
Hugenots and the Tennessee Sevier name and families were from this
lineage- Pierre D.Xavier , brother to St. Francis was Hugenot.
Early explorers under the Spanish Flag were about 50% of Basque origin
and I feel the Bosque River was named by Spanish Explorers with Basque-
Basque- Bosque. Maybe it reminded them of the foothills of the Pyrineyes
Mountains. These mountains were not taken by Moors or Hanibal in History.
Sevier researchers went to Pamplona library and found an old Priest who
could speak Basque and read it. The records there have Royal Bourbon
Court Records , signed by a name, then the title Grecian Del Bosque-
There was also a tribe of Indians on the Great Lakes- some Canadian, some
American- who spoke a language very close to the Basque tongue- the
Spanish Explorers could talk to them in a very Short time.
Another thing- the Spanish may have been ruthless and cruel with the
Indians of Central and South America. However, they stopped Human
sacrifice by native Americans. Do you think the Governor of New Mexico
was justified in calling out the national Guard about 40 years ago and
some since to stop the Pentitente Indians of the High Plateaus
Crucifyingon Easter ? most lived and were honored after they survived-
their churches had not seen a Priest in several generations, so they
combined Christian and native American ideas.
Also, the Indians greatest progress was made after the Spanish brought
horses and Spanish Black longhoprn cattle to this side of the ocean. TThe
Comanches of Quannah Parker's day had one Alaskan Plains Indian intheir
Nerw Mexico group.
If protester want to stop the extenction of the Mustang horses- has
anyone ever told them that the Mustangs ARE NOT native animals and
should be completely destroyed if their idea of going back to nature
were done. We would have to tear down fences and restock the plains and
cotton fields in West Texas with Buffalo and the mountains with whatever
the Mustangs replaced.
I have cousins with Cherokee and Choctaw blood- most refused to sign the
tribal rolls- they wanted to avoid being fed and controlled by the
Government and become educated and just be Americans, still proud of
their roots. History is interesting to study, but all of us today would
be miserable if were suddenly put back in the America of 300 years ago
where Tribes were trying to wipe each other out. The Tribasl Indians
were not united- they were too divided for their own good.
It is surprising how many Cherokee and Creek who were on the Trail of
Tears had a college degree and an Anglo and Indian name. John Ross was
one- a brilliant lawyer.
Charles A, Wyly
n Sat, 26 Oct 2002 14:38:52 -0700 svazmacjake3(a)juno.com writes:
I disagree about Columbus being an insult to Native Americans.
Did you know that he wasn't the first to come over here to this
Most of the native Americans are descendants of Europeans who
crossed over the ice bridge...
Native Americans didn't care about owning land. They were nomad
roaming in reachable areas and fought amongst themselves over
constantly......taking prisoners of other tribes who then served as
slaves for themselves.......
During the 9th and 10th centuries many sailors who lived in what is
Norway and Sweden ventured across theAtlantic......About the year
Norsemen, led by Leif the Lucky, reached the coast of North
Here is some information to counter misinformation being taught
Poor old Columbus has gone the way of Political correctness...
His name was Christoforo Colombo and he was born in Genoa, Italy
1446. He was the son of a weaver. He was red haired and had blue
and was of a lanky build. We know him as Christopher Columbus.
When he was a little older, he began to sail to deliver his father's
cloth along the coasts of Italy, France and Spain. When he was in
early twenties, he got a job sailing from Genoa to England. Not
afterwards, they were attacked by French ships. He was wounded and
thrown into the sea as his ship went to the bottom. He found an oar
clinging to it, he began to swim. He went 6 miles to shore and he
up on the coast of Portugal.
Folks from his home city of Genoa lived in Lisbon. They took him in
cared for him until he was strong. While there he learned to speak
Portuguese and read and write it also. He also learned Spanish. He
married the daughter of an important Portuguese navigator.
In 1477, he sailed to England and Ireland and on to Iceland. During
time most believed the earth was flat. The compass had been in use
about 200 years before Columbus was born. The astrolabe was
the Portuguese. This device told the position of a ship at sea by
observing the position of the sun. They began to use square sails
instead of the triangular one. They were easier to handle and made
possible to sail against the wind.
Columbus was in King John of Portugal's court when Bartholomew Dias
returned from his exploration of Africa in 1488. He was looking for
way to the east toward Asia. He began to dream of going to sea to
new way to the east, to adventure and to teach the Christian faith.
believed that God had called him to do that.
When King John II turned him down, he went to Spain and sent his
Bartholomew to England to try to get King Henry VII interested. The
Queen of Spain, Isabella helped him by raising the sum of about
[1939 history book]. This was enough to provide three ships, The
the Nina and the Santa Maria. He was named the Admiral of the Ocean
The Nina and Pinta were caravels. They were small and light enough
explore shallow water but strong enough for an ocean voyage. They
as long as the Santa Maria when put together. The Santa Maria was
125 feet long and weighed 230 tons. She had a deck too! It was
with unexperienced seamen as the experienced were afraid to go.
left from Palos, Spain and set sail on August 3, 1492. 'In 1492,
Columbus sailed the ocean blue'....There were 25 sailors in each of
small ships, called caravels. The Santa Maria had 40 on board. The
Pinta was his favorite and became his flagship. He was 40 when he
He kept two books. The one showing the real distance traveled and
other showing less so the men would not be afraid when in
On October 10, the crew exploded with anger and fear. They had
they saw land on September 25 and October 7. Columbus got them
This is from his diary on Thursday, eleventh of October, 1492:
As the caravel Pinta was a better sailor, and went ahead of the
She found the land and made the signals ordered by the Admiral. The
was first seen by a sailor named Rodrigo de Triana. But the
10 PM being on the castle of the poop, saw a light, though it was so
uncertain that he could not affirm that it was land....After the
had spoken he saw the light once or twice and it was like a wax
rising and falling. It seemed to a few to be an indication of land;
the Admiral made certain that land was close. When they said the
[a hymn] which all the sailors were accustomed to sing in their way,
Admiral asked and admonished the men to keep a good look-out on the
forecastle, and to watch well for land, and to him who should first
out that he saw land, he would give a silk doublet.
Columbus named the Island San Salvador [Holy Saviour] It is one of
Bahamas. The trip took two months and nine days. They had
about 4 thousand miles.
He was an excellent sailor. He could read the stars at night as
we read a road map today. he could sense a storm approaching from
feel and taste of the air. One of his officers said that he could
at a cloud or a star and know what was going to happen. He had a
skill at what we call 'dead reckoning', making his best guess how
was to a place and figuring out how long it should take to get
But how are speed and distance measured at sea? They tied knots in
long piece of rope at regular intervals. Then they tossed one end
rope into the water and counted how many knots were pulled overboard
given time. This was the ship's speed, counted in knots per hour.
He made four trips to the new land. His last trip was in 1502 and
two years. He died in 1506. In the 1498 trip, he went along the
of South America. In 1499 while Columbus was on his third voyage a
named Hojeda commanded an expedition to the New World with an
named Amerigo Vespucci. When he returned to Spain, Vespucci
that he had discovered a new continent. In 1503 his account was
and published in Latin and a Swiss geographer suggested that the new
World be called America for Amerigo Vespucci. He did not know that
Columbus had found the land first.
Remember that the Spaniards were not just interested in getting
wealth, but also in winning the natives to the Christian religion.
sent Priests on every expedition.
Christopher never set foot on what we now call America, if he hadn't
ventured out, someone else would have sooner or later.
*Info from two books. Christopher Columbus and other Early
by Bourne and America's Road to Now by Coleman and Wesley.
P. S. My family has Indian blood in its veins. We have German,
Irish, Scottish, Welsh, French, Dutch, amd Swiss blood, but we call
ourselves Americans, not German American, or English American, or
American, etc.....just plain old Americans.
Mr. and Mrs. Dorvel McCarty
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