Are you aware that Baylor University has an annual native American
Pow-wow each year in the new indoor stadium> Also, partly because of
these students a Buffalo River Indian Baptist Church was meeting in the
old chapell of Belmead Baptist- also a lot of Cherokee blood here- one
lady here is on Tribal Council in Tahlequah.
The church has moved to its own building in the Bosqueville area, above
We also had a Quala-T. Tee shirt factory here- sounds a lot like the
Quala - branch of the Cherokees.
Charles A. Wyly
On Sat, 26 Oct 2002 16:38:42 -0700 Randy Haynes
I will not respond on this forum re: this string since there are
have apparently taken offense.
Mr. and Mrs. McCarty I will respond to your remarks via your
address. If anyone else wishes to respond, please do so to my
e-mail address, and not to this forum. My Best, Randy Haynes
Haynes/O'Neil, Reno, NV
"May You Always Walk The Beautiful Path"......... Navaho
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Subject: [ERATH] Columbus Day
> I disagree about Columbus being an insult to Native Americans.
> Did you know that he wasn't the first to come over here to this
> Most of the native Americans are descendants of Europeans who
> crossed over the ice bridge...
> Native Americans didn't care about owning land. They were nomad
> roaming in reachable areas and fought amongst themselves over
> constantly......taking prisoners of other tribes who then served
> slaves for themselves.......
> During the 9th and 10th centuries many sailors who lived in what
> Norway and Sweden ventured across theAtlantic......About the year
> Norsemen, led by Leif the Lucky, reached the coast of North
> Here is some information to counter misinformation being taught
> Poor old Columbus has gone the way of Political correctness...
> His name was Christoforo Colombo and he was born in Genoa, Italy
> 1446. He was the son of a weaver. He was red haired and had blue
> and was of a lanky build. We know him as Christopher Columbus.
> When he was a little older, he began to sail to deliver his
> cloth along the coasts of Italy, France and Spain. When he was in
> early twenties, he got a job sailing from Genoa to England. Not
> afterwards, they were attacked by French ships. He was wounded
> thrown into the sea as his ship went to the bottom. He found an
> clinging to it, he began to swim. He went 6 miles to shore and he
> up on the coast of Portugal.
> Folks from his home city of Genoa lived in Lisbon. They took him
> cared for him until he was strong. While there he learned to
> Portuguese and read and write it also. He also learned Spanish.
> married the daughter of an important Portuguese navigator.
> In 1477, he sailed to England and Ireland and on to Iceland.
> time most believed the earth was flat. The compass had been in
> about 200 years before Columbus was born. The astrolabe was
> the Portuguese. This device told the position of a ship at sea by
> observing the position of the sun. They began to use square sails
> instead of the triangular one. They were easier to handle and
> possible to sail against the wind.
> Columbus was in King John of Portugal's court when Bartholomew
> returned from his exploration of Africa in 1488. He was looking
> way to the east toward Asia. He began to dream of going to sea to
> new way to the east, to adventure and to teach the Christian
> believed that God had called him to do that.
> When King John II turned him down, he went to Spain and sent his
> Bartholomew to England to try to get King Henry VII interested.
> Queen of Spain, Isabella helped him by raising the sum of about
> [1939 history book]. This was enough to provide three ships, The
> the Nina and the Santa Maria. He was named the Admiral of the
> The Nina and Pinta were caravels. They were small and light
> explore shallow water but strong enough for an ocean voyage. They
> as long as the Santa Maria when put together. The Santa Maria was
> 125 feet long and weighed 230 tons. She had a deck too! It was
> with unexperienced seamen as the experienced were afraid to go.
> left from Palos, Spain and set sail on August 3, 1492. 'In 1492,
> Columbus sailed the ocean blue'....There were 25 sailors in each
> small ships, called caravels. The Santa Maria had 40 on board.
> Pinta was his favorite and became his flagship. He was 40 when he
> He kept two books. The one showing the real distance traveled and
> other showing less so the men would not be afraid when in
> On October 10, the crew exploded with anger and fear. They had
> they saw land on September 25 and October 7. Columbus got them
> This is from his diary on Thursday, eleventh of October, 1492:
> As the caravel Pinta was a better sailor, and went ahead of the
> She found the land and made the signals ordered by the Admiral.
> was first seen by a sailor named Rodrigo de Triana. But the
> 10 PM being on the castle of the poop, saw a light, though it was
> uncertain that he could not affirm that it was land....After the
> had spoken he saw the light once or twice and it was like a wax
> rising and falling. It seemed to a few to be an indication of
> the Admiral made certain that land was close. When they said the
> [a hymn] which all the sailors were accustomed to sing in their
> Admiral asked and admonished the men to keep a good look-out on
> forecastle, and to watch well for land, and to him who should
> out that he saw land, he would give a silk doublet.
> Columbus named the Island San Salvador [Holy Saviour] It is one
> Bahamas. The trip took two months and nine days. They had
> about 4 thousand miles.
> He was an excellent sailor. He could read the stars at night as
> we read a road map today. he could sense a storm approaching from
> feel and taste of the air. One of his officers said that he could
> at a cloud or a star and know what was going to happen. He had a
> skill at what we call 'dead reckoning', making his best guess how
> was to a place and figuring out how long it should take to get
> But how are speed and distance measured at sea? They tied knots
> long piece of rope at regular intervals. Then they tossed one end
> rope into the water and counted how many knots were pulled
overboard in a
> given time. This was the ship's speed, counted in knots per hour.
> He made four trips to the new land. His last trip was in 1502 and
> two years. He died in 1506. In the 1498 trip, he went along the
> of South America. In 1499 while Columbus was on his third voyage
> named Hojeda commanded an expedition to the New World with an
> named Amerigo Vespucci. When he returned to Spain, Vespucci
> that he had discovered a new continent. In 1503 his account was
> and published in Latin and a Swiss geographer suggested that the
> World be called America for Amerigo Vespucci. He did not know
> Columbus had found the land first.
> Remember that the Spaniards were not just interested in getting
> wealth, but also in winning the natives to the Christian religion.
> sent Priests on every expedition.
> Christopher never set foot on what we now call America, if he
> ventured out, someone else would have sooner or later.
> *Info from two books. Christopher Columbus and other Early
> by Bourne and America's Road to Now by Coleman and Wesley.
> P. S. My family has Indian blood in its veins. We have German,
> Irish, Scottish, Welsh, French, Dutch, amd Swiss blood, but we
> ourselves Americans, not German American, or English American, or
> American, etc.....just plain old Americans.
> With respect,
> Mr. and Mrs. Dorvel McCarty
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