I have some input on this from Chisholm, Arkansas and others. Any Erath
County input from someone who had connection t John Chissum of Ballinger,
Texas? I suspect it was him, not the one in Broken Bow, Okla. who drove
cattle to Lincoln County- N.M. \Billy the kid country. He sometimes
joined Col. Charles Goodnitht. A prong of the Goodnight- Loving trail
went through north Erath County. Some were driven south and up the Pecos
to Colorado pasture and market. One lady replied that old time
Arkansawyers said the Chisolms were Scottish and had intermarriage into 3
tribes of Indians. They were claimed to be mean and stole cattle from
anyone, especially Indian ranchers. I also now have reason to think some
of the Texas Trail crossed the Brazos at Waco and picked up Kuykendall
cattle in Bosque County. It was closer from Waco to Albany or Mineral
Wells by the Bosque and the Brazos, with much better grazing at times.
Charles A. Wyly
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From: "Charles A. Wyly" <wyly1(a)juno.com>
Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 12:06:43 -0500
Subject: Re: [Southern-Trails] TX & MO LOST BRIDGES (structures not
surnames) PART 2
Hi, I have another puzzle for you. I have 2 degrees heavy in Social
Studies and have taughg history several years. In my High School Texas
History book was the traditional story about John Chisolm, trail Driver.
How many Chisolms- Chisums were leaders in various trails? I find at
least 3. The movies rolled them all into one neat package, not 3.
1. John Chissum (One reference I found today called him Jesse) was from
Broken Bow, Oklahoma and drove his and neighbors cattle, pooled, across
Oklahoma to Illinois for Indians and the Chicago market. Some say he also
drove them to Lincoln, New Mexico up the Red River and across the Texas
Panhandle. and sold them to the employer of Billy the Kid. I don't think
2. John Chissum or Chisum of the Ballinger- San Angelo -Abilene- Concho
Valley area did drive cattle to Lincoln County to feed Indians or join
the Goodnight- Loving trail headed for summer pasture and Indian rations
3. John Chisolm had a store in Kansas and freight wagons which supplied
the Military and Indians. He was half Cherokee or Choctaw and spoke 17
languages and was a paid translator. He never drove a cow, especially in
Texas on what was then called the TEXAS TRAIL through Waco. One book
says he blazed a trail from Abilene, Kansas to Yukon, Indian Territory
near OKC (Oklahoma City) The other reference I saw today says he started
at Yukon and went to Kansas. Not many trees to cut that, mostly dodge
rough creeks and drag the grass down. He did have one old Milch cow
behind his store.
The other reference also said he was Jessee Chisolm. , not John. College
people have insisted on correcting name spellings for years, right or
wrong. Cowboys, (60 percent were Black by 1890)
4, This one was a generation or two older. He was John Chissum of
Knoxville, Tennessee who was part of the plot to impeach Senator William
Blount in Washington DC based on a letter carried by one of Sevier's
scouts, James Carey . He was accused of negotiating with Miss. River
Spanish to keep the river open to Overmountaqin men. When the letter was
read in the U.S. Senate, Blont walked in during the reading and left for
Tennessee. All Federal authorities sent to arrest him were politely
warned by an organized mob of supporters who said anyone who arrested
their friend William Blont would not live to see wasnhington, DC again.
John Chissum made a hasty exit to England for his retirement years.
Now , which Chissum had a Black lady Chuck wagon cook and two sons for
whom he bought land in the Grapevine- Keller- Richland Hills, Texas
area? The sons ran antique and other stores into the 1960's.
Don't confuse Hollywood writers with all this- they already have their
minds made up in a neat 3 hour movie bundle.
I met an 80 year old cowboy in Meridian, Texas about 20 years ago who had
driven cattle for #2 above, apparently.
On Mon, 22 May 2000 00:08:20 EDT PatsyPLQ(a)aol.com writes:
I finally got web access again and tracked down this site. It has
Texas bridges and bridges in Texas and Missouri for which they are
for more info - the X Files. The site is www.historicbridges.com
answer the folks that wrote to me cause my web access fix deleted my
;-( <A HREF="http://www.historicbridges.com/main_index.htm">Click
Historic Bridge Foundation </A>
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