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Some Cherokee left voluntarily before 1838 to parts of Arkansas and then
on down into Northeastern Texas. Chief Bowl took a faction down into
Texas. Some stayed near Fort Smith between the two rivers. Some went on
the Talequah, OK.
Those who were forced to leave in the winter of 1838 - 1839 were divided
up and taken in groups, some in boats and some on horseback, but most
were walking. Before they left they were herded into compounds where
they waited before they left. The people who were supposed to feed them,
sold the food to townspeople instead so many starved to death before
they even left. When they were taken from their homes they were not
allowed to take any possessions so most did not even have blankets to
The thousands who died on the way were buried in shallow graves or just
covered over with stones when the ground was too frozen to dig in. They
were mostly Cherokee but some were Creek and a few Chickasaw. The
Cherokee were the last hold outs. When they got to OK they were herded
into large stone buildings that were open on top before they were left
mostly to their own devices. They never received the promised
compensation of several treaties that were made.
And now if you talk to a Native American of any other tribe and tell
them you are part Cherokee they will laugh at you. They do not recogize
Cherokee blood. I was working at several pow-wows that were held here
and heard this many times. But the Cherokee were one of the first tribes
to intermarry with the whites and the other tribes resent that.
AKA Barbara J. Hughes in CA
Porterville REACT Team #2517 - Unit #59
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Subject: Re: [ERATH] A Virtual tour of the Tennessee River and historical
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Thanks, Tom and Barbara& Mr. Cannon. & others,
According to the diary of Benjamin Bartlett Cannon# 1, he was travelling
from Dallas, Tennessee (Ghost town now) down the Tennessee in April,
1846. He was on a Flat bottom boat They picked up 110 bales of cotton at
Whitesburg, and tied up for the night because of contrary winds. On April
7 the they shot the suck,pot, and pan or skillet, the deadly whirlpool
which could wreck a barge or boat- near Chattanoga. the suck was the
whirlpool, the pot and pan or skillet were flat rock formations on the
banks below the whirlpool. The Tennessee Valley Authority built a dam
near there and a canal to bypass the whirlpool, but experienced river men
passed the spot regularly when wind was right and a rise also helped.
Someone tell me about the old whirlpool on Honey Creek where old Hico was
before the Railroad. heard at least one team of horses was lost in it
when the creek was on a rise and there was a dip crossing.
He mentioned, 1847, now, that they passed the Arkansas and White River
mouth and he was now on a Steamboat, which turned up the Red River to
Shreveport, La. , and others near them continued to New Orleans, so,
apparently small boats and flat bottoms and rafts could get past the
Mississippi Log jam,.Also, before the levees were built they may have
gone from the overflow near Baton Ridge. Todayit is used for flood
relief, as it is the Atchaflaya or Chaffalya River- or OLD RIVER which
comes out at Morgan City, La.
Somewhere last week I read- Waco library, I think, that early Cherokee
and intermarried who volunteered to leave when Principal Chief John Ross
was negotiating in Washington, until Andrew Jackson ordered forced
removal as winter was coming on, thus the trail of Tears. Those leaving
earlier were loaded on a steamboat and house flat boats tied to the boat
with cables. They went down the Tennessee and up the Arkansas River to
the docks in Fort Smith, Ark. Some of Grandad's first cousins were in
If you visit Fort Smith , drive over to and go down the historic French
or Spanish Quarter main street.of Van Buren. a concrete wall will be in
front of you, with a gate. and one dock is still in use for a small
paddle wheeler- or was in 1994. Then turn and look at the Van Buren flood
wall , with Fort Smith at your back, and you will see where each Senior
Class is given 20 feet of the wall to paint a historic or patriotic
picture, about 12 feet high, maybe higher.
They still say in Natchitoches , La. that the main channel of Miss.
and/or Red was impassable for deep draft vessels until about 1868.It was
still ppen to flat boats in 1845.
The Cane River does not look that large to me- it was a convenient port
for Fort Jessup, La. (1600 acres) and Old San Antonio Road through
Nacodoches from the 1600 Spanish Capitol of Texas near Raylene- Many La.
By the way, What was woodage? Passengers got cheaper fare if they took
woodage. I think it was, you had to work so many hours throwing wood into
the boiler fire and /or loading up more fuel wood at docks. Seems Grandad
said if one fed the boiler t Selden Gin before my time, they would give a
reduced fee for gin your cotton.
Grandad Henry Wyly of Selden had a first cousin Robert Fletcher Wyly who
married Mary Jane Buffington, a "Princess" or close relative of a chief,
descended from Ezekial Buffington and Joseph Martin either in North Ga.
before the Trail or in Mayesville, Arkansas. He was the first White to be
the Western Cherkee Supreme Court Justice and he and family had various
business interests, including the Cherokee Advocate in the Cherokee
alphabet of Sequoya, and a 2 story brick building still stands- once
operated on the Arkansas River by Wyly& Lawrence as a trading post. Some
in this family became M.D.s and one , Percy, was the FBI agent who
supervised integration of the State of Miss. He had worked under Hoover
in Dallas and filed the FBI report there that was on the Internet about
the Roswell Weather Baloon with a hexagonal brass disc about 18 inches
thick . He investigated, and before his death was the Supervisor of
Security for Sandia Corp, and Albequerque City Schools.
If I have Cherokee blood, it would be on mom's Arkansas ancestors- Carey
,Stone, Copeland, Hipp, Ramage, Bateman, or others- Have not proved the
connection. Kenneth Copeland, preacher, brags about his Cheroikee
heritage, and one Oklahoma Copeland was Can Aircraft Commander in the
|South Pacific. WW2- or was that a Clark?
Charles A. Wyly
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