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In a message dated 6/9/2003 2:48:44 PM Central Daylight Time, wyly1(a)juno.com
> Ammabelle Allison
I would like to find out more about Ammabelle Allison.
In my family Frances Hightower married a J.W. Allison
in 1882 in Erath County, Texas.
Some of my Erath County born Moring kin sent 4 photos of RATTLESNAKES
over 6 feet long caught alive near Kingsville Natural Gas Plant. I once
found one in the first Pony Creek Cemeterybetter known as the abandoned
Evans Cemetery, on hill in front of the church. A grave wascaved in and
some large animal had dug a hole into the grave big enough for a Fox-
There was appx. 4 ft. Rattler , big enough to have eaten a Rabbit or 2.
Later, in 1940's I had just forded the Paluxy on my Harley and killed a
Rattler over 6 feet long, but smaller at the waist than the one in the
Today's Waco Tribune Herald ( Wacotrib.com) had an article about West
Texas Prairie Dogs being sold in northern states as pets and they were
carriers of the MONKEY POX, similar to Cow pox or Small Pox. Some have
died from the disease, carriedby either Prairie dog or his parasites.
Some at Johnsille Reunion Saturday thought AFRICAN FIRE ANTS were
killing small snakes, just as they are our Horned Frogs They can also
kill newly born unattended infants and calves and baby armadillos.
I saw Bees swarming near Selden Saturday.some there are Killer Bees and
many countuies in Texas are Quarantined for moving Hives, but the
African - Mexicanized Bees don't recognize county lines. My grandson was
stung in Selden a few years ago- 54 stings showed up in 24 hours- in
hiseyes,nostrils, ears, mouth, lips, back, and anywhere they saw a bare
spot. I got him some shots at Stephenville Hosp[ital and he stayed in bed
with pain and swelling medicines most of 1 week. This type bee is highly
agitated by two Cylinder Riding Mowere and sometimes by weedeaters- as
their sound is highly obnoxious or threatening to the Killer Bees. Remove
their Quen and the next generationwill be more domesticated and hard
And we used to worry about chiggers- At last we can spray for them, or
put Downy pads in our Socks.
Have Fun but Take care, the world is more dangerous from changes in our
environment and our fellow man. Is there a Connection here?
Charles A. Wyly
please correct me if I am wrong, but mom attended Selden Church with an
Ammabelle Allison and I think she lived in Selden on road from kay and
Wyly farms towards Evergreen. Wasn't she the mother of Tarleton State
University Coach Johnny Dunn? I attended SHS and Tarleton at the same
time he was there, shining in Football. This Allison was in Selden
Community in 1920's
Before that, the Crockett School was across Hwy 67 and Evergreen School
was down the old Dirt Hwy 67, which joined Hwy 281 in the Valley Grove
Guess you know about the very old Ben Wheeler community and church
between Tyler and Canton, near Van, Texas.
anyone recognize this family who is on the 1910 Erath County census:
Robert H Wheeler, age 53, born TN
Hester, daughter, age 13, born TX
Sarah, sister, age 56
Julie, mother, age 75, born TN
I believe Robert is the son of William D Wheeler and Julie Ann Allison
(in 1880 Montague County TX)
Robert would have had brothers and sisters:
Goodson (1920 in Caddo County OK)
William D. L. (1910 in Hood County TX)
James H (1910 in Ottawa County OK)
George Luther (1910 in Pawmee County OK)
Oscar (1910 in Lampasas County TX)
Check this site out for the Scottish meaning of Redneck, Cracker, Gringo
, and Hillbilly
Several opinions on Red Neck- it has become Coloquial and does not mean
the same in all Areas, even in the South.
Gringo came from American Soldiers marching into Mexico, 184548 from
t singing te old Scottish Song
" Green Grow the Laurel ,All Coverred with Dew ( How sad 's been tne Day
since I parted from You)"
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From: "John Erwin" <jberwin(a)frontiernet.net>
Subject: [Sc-Ir] Redneck, the true story
Ok everybody click on this web site for the story about Rednecks.
Garvin Wood married dad's first cousin, Olive Wyly. She was raised in the
old house built by Great Granndad Robert Wyly's brother William Sevier
Wyly and wife Mary Hatchett Wyly Her mom died during the Depression and
her Dad Oliver Wyly #3 or 4 . he was a working man and had small
children. Her baby sister Louise was raised by "Aunt Myrt" Wyly
Hatchett and Uncle Will Hatchett. Two of the girls were raised by Agnes
Hatchett Wyly and their Uncle Charlie Wyly. Myrt, Bill, Robert, Charlie,
and Nora Estelle Kay, wife of Hensley David and Ida Minerva Wyly Kay ,
wife of John Kay were some of the 23 siblings of Oliver Cromwell Wyly and
first wife Lucy Eddins, second wife Martha Adeline Byrd, and 3rd wife
Martha Catherine Mitchell, who was a niece of Lucy Eddins with a double
first cousin there somewhere.
O.C. Sr. was a sheriff of Habersham county, Ga. and a Civil War officer.
One son and brother had a 4 story Wholesale Grocery in Atrlanta and
some claim that some Civil War records were in the 4th story storage when
Sherman tried to burn Atlanta.
12 of O.C. Wyly's children moved to Selden , Texas 1865-1890 Nova
Schouten could tell you much more about her mom and dad. Olive and
Garvin. Kevin Woods's children are the 5 the generation to live in
the"Uncle" Bill Wyly Home by the Hoelscher Dairy. Dorothy Scrimsher's
Hurley grandad Hurley used to stop with her at Great Uncle Bill's home
coming from the Stone Family Gin at Selden ( Garrett Springs) , he would
let the horses rest while he and Great Uncle Bill would sit and rock
and drink cool cistern water and discuss the Bible. Dorothy and Garvin
live in the home nearest Selden Gin and the Garrett Springs.
Dorothy Scrimsher attended Selden High the 2 years after I left
Johnsville for Selden., then 2 years at Stephenville. her brother Jerry
married Louise Wyly, who passed on last week in a Glen Rose home for
Altzheimer's . Jerry was sheriff of Throckmorton and cotton ginner there
and at Selden at one time or another. Dorothy and Jerry's mom was a
Darnell- one of the older generations of Darnells married Grandmother Ida
Moxley Wyly's sister Sallie Moxley and one of her sisters married a son
of Tom Arendell, who built the Log Cabin on what is now Moncrief Dairy,
and Garvin Wood completely restored Tom's Cabin , dirt floor and all.
At one time I must have been cousin to half the kids in Selden School -
seemed like it.
I am sure this more than you ever wanted to know about these
connections. I did not know Louise was buried last week until one of
Lucille Wyly's progeny notified me this week.
" Insanity is hereditary- you get it from your kids. "
I must have missed the beginning of this thread ... Dorothy and Garvin are
living and would be happy to visit with folks interested in their families.
Dorothy serves on the Erath County Historical Commission. They were both on
hand for a retirement party I attended last week. I have forgotten which
community they live at - either Duffau or Selden? - but I'm sure they have a
number in the phone book.
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From: "HaynesO'Neil" <nevadasage(a)sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 12:27 PM
Subject: [ERATH] Scrimscher
> I have Dorothy Scrimscher. Don't have much though.
> My Best, Randy Haynes
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> May you always walk the beautiful path.....Navaho
> Descendants of Dorothy Scrimsner
> Generation No. 1
> 1. DOROTHY1 SCRIMSNER1 was born Abt. 1925. She married (1) TRUETT CAREY.
> was born Abt. 1925. She married (2) MUTT SUITT1. He was born Abt. 1925,
> died Abt. 1999. She married (3) GARVIN DARRELL WOOD2 2002 in Prob. Erath
> County, TX, son of HENRY WOOD and GRACE BAILEY. He was born November 19,
> 1916 in Stephenville, Erath County, TX3.
> 1. Charles Wyly, <syly1(a)juno.com>, March 2003.
> 2. Erath County Birth Records of Nova Darlene Wood.
> 3. Snow Family Genealogy Print-out, unknown compiler given to Norma
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> From: "scrimshire" <scrimshire(a)pvtnetworks.net>
> To: <TXERATH-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 6:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [ERATH] Janes H. Burnett
> > I think that is a different Scrimscher. Srimshire is my husband line.
> > came from Arkansas. We may be related from way back.
> > mell
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