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So you all suggest not listing anyone in my tree under 70 years old? Or do
you suggest limiting the info to just their name, or name and dob, or name,
dob and pob? I wouldn't want to list anything that would put my family at
risk.
LeeAnn
Shelta Shrum wrote:
>
> Does anyone know if there is a 70 year rule regarding genealogy?
> Someone has sent me a Bible Record, which I am most appreciative of, but
> it has some dates in it that I am afraid to use because they are fairly
> recent. Given my personal feeling I probably won't use them, but I was
> wondering about this rule, or did I dream it?
>
> Shelta Shrum
> Macon County http://www.nctc.com/~gshrum/tngen.htm
>
> ==== TNGEN Mailing List ====
>
> All URL's back to USGenWeb should read:
> http://www.usgenweb.org
> -- or --
> http://www.usgenweb.net
Shelta,
To my knowledge, there is no law that restricts private publication of
dates, however, there are three considerations here.
First is the personal right to privacy. We all need to respect that.
Second, the US Census Bureau will not publish a census until it has
passed its 70th birthday.
Third, I believe that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints
has restrictions on the publication of dates that pertain to any living
person.
In the third instance, I have seen in their records, dates on living
people. Many years ago, I found in the LDS records dates on a living
uncle.
He died yesterday (age 96) so I guess he is now in compliance with the
LDS standards.
Fred Smoot
Hi Shelta, and Folks!
I know there is a rule of good manners.. re: posting info about living
folks...I think it is a 'invasion of privacy' thing. You need to get
permission..and the net is full of creeps that woule love to get ther hands
on info they can convert to their use. But, there is a Law re: the Census
(I am fairly confident) about disclosure ..and the privacy thing is the same
reason... Right? I'ma really reaching deep and I can't confirm this..
Cher
Shelta Shrum wrote:
> Does anyone know if there is a 70 year rule regarding genealogy?
> Someone has sent me a Bible Record, which I am most appreciative of, but
> it has some dates in it that I am afraid to use because they are fairly
> recent. Given my personal feeling I probably won't use them, but I was
> wondering about this rule, or did I dream it?
>
> Shelta Shrum
> Macon County http://www.nctc.com/~gshrum/tngen.htm
>
> ==== TNGEN Mailing List ====
>
> All URL's back to USGenWeb should read:
> http://www.usgenweb.org
> -- or --
> http://www.usgenweb.net
Hi Shelta,
I know there is a 70 year rule for the government to
follow with records like the Fed. census. It is to protect the
privacy of living individuals. I do not think you
are bound by the same rules and must use your best
judgment :-) If it were me, I would not publish
info on anyone still living, or just make a brief mention
of those living, but no details. You are so lucky
to have this opportunity!
Pam
Hi Shelta,
I don't know about a 70 year rule in genealogy, if some writes to you
about this let me know okay? I know there is a 75 year rule for
copyrights, are you getting the two mixed up?
The databases I have on line do not include information on people who
were born this century. I have it set up to block information on
folks that are less than 100 years old. I have a distant cousin whose
mother is 92 so if there is a 70 year rule -- it would not cover her
nor my father who is 71.
Hope this helps,
Bridgett
On 26 Jun 98 at 9:02, Shelta Shrum wrote:
> Does anyone know if there is a 70 year rule regarding genealogy?
> Someone has sent me a Bible Record, which I am most appreciative of, but
> it has some dates in it that I am afraid to use because they are fairly
> recent. Given my personal feeling I probably won't use them, but I was
> wondering about this rule, or did I dream it?
>
> Shelta Shrum
> Macon County http://www.nctc.com/~gshrum/tngen.htm
>
>
> ==== TNGEN Mailing List ====
>
>
> All URL's back to USGenWeb should read:
> http://www.usgenweb.org
> -- or --
> http://www.usgenweb.net
>
>
>
~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~
Bridgett Smith
TNGenWeb State Coordinator
http://www.tngenweb.org/
Hi everyone else <g>
As you all know, Bridgett has been nominated as SC representative for the
South East Mid-Atlantic region.
With all the campaigning going on I thought I would write a little stump
speech and put it on a testimonials web page for folks to visit. Who
better to recommend her than the cc s of TNGenWeb.
So I invite you to join me in writing up a testimonial for
Bridgett. I will code it and put it on the server as soon as possible.
The voting will occur during the month of July, 1998, so I would like to
do the page soon....participation is strictly voluntary, but I thought it
would be nice to show the USGenWeb world what a great SC we have.
Nancy
ncole(a)coffey.com
Assistant TNGenweb Coordinator
Bledsoe County http://www.tngenweb.org/bledsoe
Rhea County http://www.tngenweb.org/rhea
DR (and all),
I am a "country boy" also. I live out in the "boonies", near the county
line between the two counties that I host, on TnGen (Cannon & Coffee).
Even though I occasionally "tawk kuntry", I find it difficult to do,
when typing. Besides much of the "Query of the Week", was just plain
LAZINESS !
Some of my lost kuzins have moved away, up nawth and uther furen places.
They may have forgotten how to tawk kuntry, but I still want to find
them. It seems to me that a reasonable stab at using the King's English,
(or some other recognizable standard) would be to the advantage of all.
--
Jess Lewis >> http://www.cafes.net/jlewis/ <<
I just want to take the time to thank everyone who responded to my plea for
lost win 95 files. It's nice to know you're not alone in the world of
computing. I will get the files installed and let you all know what happens.
We may fuss and argue over names and techni-leese, but when I needed help I
knew I could count on you all.
Thanks again for the help.
Chip Brown
Union County TnGenWeb
http://www.tngenweb.org/union
Please read carefully.
If you have any questions feel free to write.
Bridgett
------- Forwarded Message Follows -------
From: kmfkm(a)ptw.com
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 18:45:27 +0000
Priority: normal
Subject: [STATE-COORD-L] list test
To: STATE-COORD-L(a)rootsweb.com
Reply-to: STATE-COORD-L(a)rootsweb.com
Please share this with your CCs. Thank you..
We will be running a test on the list of USGW members that we will be
using for the July Elections for National Coordinator and the
Bylaws. We want to make sure that we have everyone on the list, and
that everyone's email address is correct.
The test will be tomorrow, June 25, 1998. If you do not recieve a
message from CAMPAIGN98-L-ANNOUNCE by Friday morning, please contact
your State Coordinator, who will contact the Election committee.
This list is an "announce" list and does not accept replies.
Thank you
USGenWeb Census Project
http://www.usgenweb.org/censushttp://www.usgenweb.net/census
Kansas Unknown Counties
http://skyways.lib.ks.us/kansas/genweb/unknown
I'm kinda new here and maybe my opinion isn't of much interest to some of
you. But I figure the only way for people to get to know me is to be brave
enough to open my mouth once in awhile to state my opinion too, for what
it's worth. Daddy always had a story about people's opinions, but that never
stopped him from stating his...
This thread about country talk and all made me stop and think a bit. One of
things I'm trying to learn about and preserve with my genealogy, if only for
sake of my memories that I hold precious and near to my heart, are the ways
of my people. The way they looked, talked, lived and died. Their accents and
vocabulary, even their spelling style all go into their personality and who
they are. Personally, I would have liked to have preserved some of the
unique and distinct accents and manner of speech (or writing) instead of
making everyone in the world sound so homogenized into one bland flavor of
speech. I still get a thrill traveling the country and hearing different
flavors. Unfortuantely, it's a dying art.. or maybe an evolving art... I
know the language of my grandparents has been distilled and diluted into the
language of my parents and my generation has lost the ability almost
entirely. Some may say it's good, that each generation has gained more
literacy. But I feel like we have lost something along the way too. Some of
that uniqueness that is our heritage.
So with that said, I say post them as they come. They may be hard to read,
may be hard to understand, might be misunderstood, but they are the truth
and they are what we are. So long as we have truth we are free to be... And
as a good neighbor, if a little something extra added might help someone hit
their target.. okay. But don't take away from the truth.
Your friend in genealogy,
LeeAnn Pease Sharpe
Glendale Arizona USA
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Chip,
I have them. Please reply privately and we can
figure out how to get them to you.
George of Lincoln
On 24 Jun 98 at 12:36, Chip wrote:
> I know this isn't genealogy but...
>
> Well I spoke too soon. After upgrading to Windows 95 I decided to uninstall
> Netscape Navigator and install Navigator 32. When I uninstalled it took
> several files with it.
>
> nwlink.vxd
> nscl.vxd
> nwredir.vxd
>
> These are all virtual device drivers that really don't affect Windows but
> cause a lot of error messages. They are available from Microsoft free to
> download however their download area is constantly too busy for access. They
> are listed as being in every Windows 95 directory (folder). I went to my
> other computer to steal them from it but they are not there. That leads me to
> believe that Netscape changed some network setting and is now asking for
> these files. The files are used in Novell Netware.
>
> My question is this do any of you have these files on your system?
>
> Oh by the way I have already checked all my .ini files and these files are
> not being called from any of them. Probably from the registry. It would be
> easier to add these files back rather than edit registry.
>
> Chip
> Union County TnGenWeb
>
>
> ==== TNGEN Mailing List ====
>
>
> All URL's back to USGenWeb should read:
> http://www.usgenweb.org
> -- or --
> http://www.usgenweb.net
>
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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 19:40:18 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Celia G. Snyder" <cgsnyder(a)uiuc.edu>
Subject: [STATE-COORD-L] Forward to CCs - Revised Bylaws Online
To: STATE-COORD-L(a)rootsweb.com
Reply-to: STATE-COORD-L(a)rootsweb.com
Please let your CCs know that the revised Bylaws are online at:
http://www.usgenweb.org/official/propbylaws.html
Thanks!
Celia Snyder
On behalf of the Advisory Board
Shamey, Shamey, Shamey.
How do we know what may be the struggles of the person who made that
query. They obviously have a lack of education, but guts to get in there
and try. Maybe they grew up in a home where the parents also had no
education. Maybe they had to raise themselves. There is not all that
much personal help in the schools for those with special needs. I think
it is quite an accomplishment to be able to figure out how to get online
and to post queries. I know I cried a lot the first weeks I was on and
shulks I have a high school education. I bet it is a real struggle for
some out there to hunt and peck their messages. Why not correct the
message. The person will see it and maybe learn from you. Hit want hirt
nothin' to be nise.
Through preachin'
Judy
Jess Lewis wrote:
>
> DR (and all),
> I am a "country boy" also. I live out in the "boonies", near the county
> line between the two counties that I host, on TnGen (Cannon & Coffee).
> Even though I occasionally "tawk kuntry", I find it difficult to do,
> when typing. Besides much of the "Query of the Week", was just plain
> LAZINESS !
> Some of my lost kuzins have moved away, up nawth and uther furen places.
> They may have forgotten how to tawk kuntry, but I still want to find
> them. It seems to me that a reasonable stab at using the King's English,
> (or some other recognizable standard) would be to the advantage of all.
> --
> Jess Lewis >> http://www.cafes.net/jlewis/ <<
>
> ==== TNGEN Mailing List ====
>
> Be sure to send your updates to this mailing list to be
> included on the "What's New" page.
In Macon County talking country is when you ask for hope on something
and your kindly neighbor understands and offers all the hope he can.
That's what country is in Macon County.
Shelta Shrum
Jess Lewis wrote:
>
> DR (and all),
> I am a "country boy" also. I live out in the "boonies", near the county
> line between the two counties that I host, on TnGen (Cannon & Coffee).
> Even though I occasionally "tawk kuntry", I find it difficult to do,
> when typing. Besides much of the "Query of the Week", was just plain
> LAZINESS !
> Some of my lost kuzins have moved away, up nawth and uther furen places.
> They may have forgotten how to tawk kuntry, but I still want to find
> them. It seems to me that a reasonable stab at using the King's English,
> (or some other recognizable standard) would be to the advantage of all.
> --
> Jess Lewis >> http://www.cafes.net/jlewis/ <<
>
> ==== TNGEN Mailing List ====
>
> Be sure to send your updates to this mailing list to be
> included on the "What's New" page.
I go about the internet looking here and there for aids in helping
with HTML and making a web page more compatible with all browsers.
Awhile back I found Web Site Garage, I think I posted this once
already, but for those who are new to our project, give it a try.
However, I also sign up to get newsletters from various sites and
received one from them today which was excellent. Some really good
tips, so I thought I would pass it on to you folks.
Bridgett
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I know this isn't genealogy but...
Well I spoke too soon. After upgrading to Windows 95 I decided to uninstall
Netscape Navigator and install Navigator 32. When I uninstalled it took
several files with it.
nwlink.vxd
nscl.vxd
nwredir.vxd
These are all virtual device drivers that really don't affect Windows but
cause a lot of error messages. They are available from Microsoft free to
download however their download area is constantly too busy for access. They
are listed as being in every Windows 95 directory (folder). I went to my other
computer to steal them from it but they are not there. That leads me to
believe that Netscape changed some network setting and is now asking for these
files. The files are used in Novell Netware.
My question is this do any of you have these files on your system?
Oh by the way I have already checked all my .ini files and these files are not
being called from any of them. Probably from the registry. It would be easier
to add these files back rather than edit registry.
Chip
Union County TnGenWeb
On 24 Jun 98 at 11:22, LeeAnn Pease Sharpe wrote:
> I'm kinda new here and maybe my opinion isn't of much interest to some of
> you. But I figure the only way for people to get to know me is to be brave
> enough to open my mouth once in awhile to state my opinion too, for what
> it's worth.
LeeAnn, everyone's opinion is not only welcome here but very useful,
so being *NEW* to this project shouldn't stop anyone from posting
theirs, feel free -- just no flame wars <VBG>
<<<snipped>>>>
> Personally, I would have liked to have preserved some of the
> unique and distinct accents and manner of speech (or writing) instead of
> making everyone in the world sound so homogenized into one bland flavor of
> speech. I still get a thrill traveling the country and hearing different
> flavors.
I agree with this. Between the ages of 2 and 11, I lived in Rhode
Island and had that distinctive accent. When visiting in Greene
County during the summer time during this period, my relatives would
sit me down and ask me questions, just so they could listen to me.
Funny thing, I also remember asking them questions because I loved to
hear THEM talk.
I lost my RI accent (which George can tell you can not really be
called a NE accent, it is definitely different from the rest of those
states in that area) when moving to VA Beach, VA. Apparently it is
easy for me to pick up accents as I soon started saying oooot instead
of out, aboooot instead of about, etc. Again my relatives in TN kept
me talking <VBG>.
However, I've never lost my love to hear the East TN "twang" (my
mother's description of the accent) and was in 7th heaven last year
when I visited for 2 weeks. But remember I said I pick up accents
easy? Well, by the 2nd week, when talking to my husband on the phone,
he asked me why I was talking so funny <VBG>. I lost that accent
about 2 weeks after I returned home, sad to say.
Many people type as they would speak, I am one of them, and my
fingers get crossed a lot when typing, so you will see errors, and
probably grammatical ones, and I use a lot of non-standard english
words, does that make me less literate than the next person? (I also
like run-on sentences, LOL). I think not. We all have our expertise
in certain areas, so what might appear as an illiterate person
writing a message may be the person to do circles around you in
another area. (And that person also may contain a clue to the deadend
in your research.)
In this hobby we are in, we need to be a little less critical about
the way people write, although I know it is hard not to be at times.
Jess, I am not criticizing you in anyway, please be sure of that. We
all get queries that we wonder if it is a child writing them, and
they just may be -- a child in the hobby of genealogy or in our
vernacular a "newbie". I think the only query that really gets to me
is the one that lists the surname, and that's all, only because I
feel (and I could be wrong) that posting that query is a waste of
bandwidth -- more than likely no one will respond to it.
Sorry about the long post, but I have never been the type to be
"short and sweet" in msgs (it's in the genes).
Bridgett
Bridgett Edwards Smith
bascs(a)wizard.com
TNGenWeb State Coordinator
http://www.tngenweb.org/
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Thought you guy & gals might enjoy this Query for Coffee Co. I'm tired
of fixing them!! Gonna post it just the was I got it.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
TIMMONS-HOWELL-TATE
</A></FONT></H3>
I am lookimg for informatin on bettie Timmons she married Robert
Howell of bedford co.i think she was the daughter of "sokey"(dont
know about the spelling)Timmons and an indian girl (rumored to be
cheifs daug.)also had a bro. named peat. bettie died in 1903,dont
have much more info on family.bettie and robert had six children
,they went to live in Harlan co. ky. their daug. maude married jb
Tate of grundy co. hope someone can help thanks
<BR><A HREF="..........etc. etc.
--
Jess Lewis >> http://www.cafes.net/jlewis/ <<
Yes, post as received!
The few 'cousins' that I contact online 'talk' just like this guy does. It
takes a backwoods hillbilly to appreciate another backwoods hillbilly. I've
slowly come to accept them as they are - my people.
Visit Hancock and Morgan query pages (soon KYGenWeb Clinton County) to see
the ones that I've posted 'as is'. Yes, I usually do modify them a bit.
But more and more, I leave them as I received them. I guess I've been
talking with the 'old people' in my lines (too much) to care (too much)
about city folks rules of grammar.
Keep in touch -
DRRowland
*******
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jess Lewis [mailto:jlewis@cafes.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 1998 2:43 AM
> To: TNGEN-L(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: [TNGEN-L] My "Querry of the Week"
>
>
> Thought you guy & gals might enjoy this Query for Coffee Co. I'm tired
> of fixing them!! Gonna post it just the was I got it.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> TIMMONS-HOWELL-TATE
> </A></FONT></H3>
> I am lookimg for informatin on bettie Timmons she married Robert
> Howell of bedford co.i think she was the daughter of "sokey"(dont
> know about the spelling)Timmons and an indian girl (rumored to be
> cheifs daug.)also had a bro. named peat. bettie died in 1903,dont
> have much more info on family.bettie and robert had six children
> ,they went to live in Harlan co. ky. their daug. maude married jb
> Tate of grundy co. hope someone can help thanks
> <BR><A HREF="..........etc. etc.
> --
> Jess Lewis >> http://www.cafes.net/jlewis/ <<
>
>
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>
> Be sure to send your updates to this mailing list to be
> included on the "What's New" page.
>