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Everyone,
The by-laws are not on line, so no one missed any posts <VBG>.
Nancy just hit the wrong button and sent the message to you instead
of just to me. There are 7 of us working on these to get all the
little glitches out of them before posting.
About fees. Yes, the bylaws mentions them: "There shall be no initial
membership fee, however the Board may recommend membership fee
structure, which must be approved by the General Membership."
No fees.
That provision is written into the bylaws only -- so if down the
road, a long ways down the road, that if the necessity arrises then
there won't be a need to change the bylaws. (It's what is commonly
called a CYA type provision).
Hope this clears that up.
Bridgett
On 23 May 98 at 21:25, TNGEN-L(a)rootsweb.com wrote:
> I didn't see where the bylaws were either. Why in the World would we
> need membership cards? What would the membership fee be for? I'm not
> wild about a fee...I already use my own funds to put things on the pages
> themselves
>
>
>
~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~
Bridgett Smith
TNGenWeb State Coordinator
http://www.tngenweb.org/
PMFJI -but did I miss something? Where can the charter & bylaws be viewed?
Betty
At 01:29 PM 5/23/98 -0600, you wrote:
>Dear Bridgett,
>
>I have read the charter and bylaws and find them appropriate and
>reasonable.
>
>I am in agreement that some small membership fee is also appropriate, 1.
>to give the members the opportunity to make a tangible commitment to the
>project and 2. to generate some small amount of revenue for such necessary
>items as the membership cards.
>
>Having said that, perhaps we should extend the time to pay such membership
>dues to 60 days, since I will probably be the first one to forget and get
>kicked out <g>.
>
>And no term limits? Well that probably means we will all be here until we
>are old and grey.
>
>Nancy
>ncole(a)coffey.com
>
>Assistant TNGenweb Coordinator
>Bledsoe County http://www.tngenweb.usit.com/bledsoe
>Rhea County http://www.tngenweb.usit.com/rhea
>
>
>==== TNGEN Mailing List ====
>
>All URL's back to USGenWeb should read:
>http://www.usgenweb.org
> -- or --
>http://www.usgenweb.net
>
>
Dear Bridgett,
I have read the charter and bylaws and find them appropriate and
reasonable.
I am in agreement that some small membership fee is also appropriate, 1.
to give the members the opportunity to make a tangible commitment to the
project and 2. to generate some small amount of revenue for such necessary
items as the membership cards.
Having said that, perhaps we should extend the time to pay such membership
dues to 60 days, since I will probably be the first one to forget and get
kicked out <g>.
And no term limits? Well that probably means we will all be here until we
are old and grey.
Nancy
ncole(a)coffey.com
Assistant TNGenweb Coordinator
Bledsoe County http://www.tngenweb.usit.com/bledsoe
Rhea County http://www.tngenweb.usit.com/rhea
If I were to go to your page, and notice that it hadn't been updated in a while, and I E-Mailed
you, using all my tact and sweetness, no matter what, you would feel a little uncomfortable, a
little defensive. On the spot. Even with all my good intentions, a small wedge would be driven
into the relationship.
If I have a roll call, that is regularly scheduled, and everyone gets the same request..Tell me
your alive.. Let me know if there are any problems I can help with.. I would get the desired
result without making anyone feel bad. I don't think asking for a roll call every now and again
is so much of a sacrifice when it can keep bad feelings from festering in the ranks.
As Always,
Anne
Thanks to everyone who helped me with my AOL uploading problem. Got it fixed,
all is well. Combined all your suggestions and it worked. A truly great
GROUP effort.
:) Karen Oldham
Trousdale Co. CC
I feel "roll calls" are silly & a waste of time. It also contributes to
the massive amount of mail that slows the internet down. All that you
really are interested in are the individual counties, right? Why not
just check to see if Queries are being posted. If Queries are reasonably
current, then the county coordinator must be alive.
--
Jess Lewis >> http://www.cafes.net/jlewis/ <<
Here's a site that will show what politicians are buried and were born in
your county. An interesting site to say the least. It has cemetery
names/locations with maps which may be helpful to some of your users.
http://www.potifos.com/tpg/geo/TN/kmindex.html
Folks,
The positions that are being filled that are labeled State
Coordinators and County Coordinators are for representatives for a
region -- not for the State Coordinator/County Coordinator for an
individual state and/or county.
Bridgett
------- Forwarded Message Follows -------
From: kmfkm(a)ptw.com
Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 21:26:05 +0000
Priority: normal
Subject: [STATE-COORD-L] CALL for NOMINATIONS
To: STATE-COORD-L(a)rootsweb.com
Reply-to: STATE-COORD-L(a)rootsweb.com
Please share this with your County Coordinators, Thank you!
Nominations will be accepted starting today for the following officers for The USGenWeb Project.
1. National Coordinator - one-year term
In order to make the terms of the State Coordinator and County Coordinators "staggered" so that half of them will be elected each year, there will be special guidelines for the 1998 election.
2. Four (4) State Coordinator Representatives will be elected; two (2) for two-year
terms and two (2) for one-year terms. One-year terms will be determined by "drawing
straws."
3. Eight (8) County Coordinator Representatives will be elected; four (4) for two-year
terms and four (4) for one-year terms. One-year terms will be determined by "drawing
straws."
One State Coordinator Representative and 2 County Coordinator Representatives will be elected for each of these regions
a) Northeast/North Central Region:
Connecticut, Illinois, Indiana, Maine, Massachusetts, Michigan, New Hampshire,
New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont, Wisconsin
b) Southeast/Mid-Atlantic Region:
Alabama, Delaware, District of Columbia, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky,
Maryland, Mississippi, New Jersey, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee,
Virginia, West Virginia
c) Northwest/Plains Region:
Alaska, Colorado, Idaho, Iowa, Minnesota, Montana, Nebraska, North
Dakota, Oregon, South Dakota, Washington, Wyoming
d) Southwest/South Central Region:
Arizona, Arkansas, California, Hawaii, Kansas, Louisiana, Missouri, Nevada,
New Mexico, Oklahoma, Texas, Utah
The persons nominated must have the following qualifications:
1. National Coordinator
a) Qualifications - at least one year of continuous service with the The USGenWeb
Project and current activity as a State Project Coordinator (primary or assistant),
County-level Project Coordinator (primary or assistant), Township/Town-level Project
Coordinator (primary or assistant), or Special Project Coordinator (primary or
assistant)
b) Length of term - one (1) year
c) Term Limit - no consecutive terms
2. State Coordinator Representative
a) Qualifications - at least 6 months continuous service with The USGenWeb Project
and current activity as a State Coordinator or Assistant State Coordinator
b) Length of term - two (2) years
c) Unlimited consecutive terms
3. County Coordinator Representative
a) Qualifications - at least 6 months continuous service with The USGenWeb Project
and current activity as a County Coordinator or Assistant County Coordinator
b) Length of term - two (2) years
c) Unlimited consecutive terms
Who may nominate?
1)Any project volunteer
2) Volunteers may nominate themselves
The nomination should include
1) Name of nominee
2) email address of nominee
3) Nominated for what position
4) Nominee's qualifications
Send nominations to:
<nominate(a)usgenweb.org>
Nominations will close on June 16, 1998 at 12:00pm PDT.
Thank you
Kay Mason
Elections Committee
The USGenWeb Project
Member, National Advisory Board
The USGenWeb Project
http://www.usgenweb.org/
National Coordinator
The USGenWeb Archives Census Project
http://www.usgenweb.org/census/
Kansas Unknown Counties
http://skyways.lib.ks.us/kansas/genweb/unknown
Tim & all,
I am one of the newbies and have been working my tail off to put
something up so everyone researching my county will be proud of the
county page. There are other counties that have not been touched in
months. Do they answer the roll call? Only one person knows.
Every page should have something added at least every other week even if
it is only queries. With the help of all the people researching each
county - every page could be a benefit to all. Some counties only have
the basic links and nothing extra..... if someone is having problems -
let some else help releave the pressure of the page while the going is
rough. Post a message and people will send the info to you and all you
have to do is cut and paste - not a lot of typing. I have had a couple
of ladies really help with my cemeteries.... Today is dedicated to
Lynn's page... and I have said my thoughts....
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Lynn In TN aka Lynn Pierce Appling
send mailto:lynnintn@netten.net
+ - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + -
http://www.netten.net/~lynnintn/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I am presently researching the following surnames:
APPLING - ASHCRAFT - McCAN[D]LESS - SEAGO/SEGO
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
You know Bridgett didn't say she'd remove someone for not answering a roll
call BUT simple courtesy demands you do so. If your leader asks, not
demands, then what's the harm in answering? As others have said, she's not
asking for a lot of time from you. 30 seconds a month is less than the
United Way asks of you and I'm sure some of you give to that without question.
Where do you draw the line? How long does one wait? Would it be fair to
let county A be put up for adoption just because they didn't answer roll
call but is updated regularly versus county B who never does a thing, never
updates, doesn't add queries?
What is the big problem with having a roll call. I think we have to give
the SC a little courtesy and leeway to do her job. And if a roll call is
what she needs to help her in her job, so be it. And if you can't take the
30 seconds each month to respond to a roll call, then take up gardening or
something else and let someone else take over your county. Enough is enough
on this roll call business. Just do it and quit complaining.
Dave
Giles County
icq#4202467
yep, I would argue with a free lunch,
because we all know there no such thing<g>
My Tennessee mountain father always taught
me not to blindly follow the herd, and never blindly
follow someone else's authority just because
it is "easy" and "no big deal".
Tim Stowell wrote:
>
> Then what's the big deal about a quick answer to the question are you alive
> and kicking? . . .
> . . . A roll call is just simpler.
Tim et al,
Some folks would complain about a free lunch. It is in their nature, I
guess.
The question of how our SC is to handle a "CC problem" was answered by
many months ago, when Billie McNamara told me, that if she was
displeased with a CC, all she need to do was to un-link them.
After all, it is the SC who controls the "access codes" with our server.
But the other consideration here is; what are we about?
Our TNGenWeb volunteer, Caltropia Wilder, wrote: "Please don't spoil it
for the rest of us who find pleasure in helping others reclaim their
roots. Okay?"
I am in 100% agreement with her. Lets all do genealogy.
Fred
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http://www.dogtrot.com/mtgs/
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http://www.tngenweb.org/tnletters/
TNGenWeb; First People of Tennessee: Cherokee & Chickasaw Nations
http://www.tngenweb.org/tnfirst/
TNGenWeb; People of Color in Old Tennessee
http://www.tngenweb.org/tncolor/
TNGenWeb; The Maps Our Ancestors Followed:
http://www.tngenweb.org/maps/
TNGenWeb; The Land of Our Ancestors:
http://www.tngenweb.org/tnland/
Warren County Genealogical Association, WebMaster
http://www.dogtrot.com/wcga/
TNGenWeb; Warren County Tennessee Homepage:
http://www.tngenweb.org/warren/
Then what's the big deal about a quick answer to the question are you alive
and kicking?
I'm sure the SC doesn't have time to visit every single site by themselves.
I suppose Tennessee is lucky but some states like Georgia with 161
counties and Texas with 200 + would be a full time job for a SC to visit
each site.
A roll call is just simpler.
At 09:56 AM 5/22/98 -0500, pam cresswell wrote:
>Ah, but that is not what is happening here! The site in question
>is VERY active. Hardly languishing, it is thriving. Has anyone
>complained? I do not think so!
>Pam
>
>
>
>
>>I think general consensus or common sense should rule here. How long would
>>YOU allow a site to languish before you thought something should be done
>>about it? Should the SC wait until the CC decides to say take it away or
>>what?
>>
>>When the SC has users complaining that no one is posting queries, answering
>>email and it goes for weeks on end - don't you think the SC has a
>>responsibility to the users?
>>
>>At 08:33 AM 5/22/98 -0500, pam cresswell wrote:
>>>The question about Roll Calls was not whether they were good or
>>>bad. The question was, does the SC have authority to "fire"
>>>a CC for not answering. Was there a vote? Was it decided by a
>>>board, or did one person say "This is how I want it, therefore
>>>it is a rule." Is this how we want things run?
>>>Pam
>>>jcress(a)tfs.net
>>>
>>>
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>>>included on the "What's New" page.
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>>
>>
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>
Ah, but that is not what is happening here! The site in question
is VERY active. Hardly languishing, it is thriving. Has anyone
complained? I do not think so!
Pam
>I think general consensus or common sense should rule here. How long would
>YOU allow a site to languish before you thought something should be done
>about it? Should the SC wait until the CC decides to say take it away or
>what?
>
>When the SC has users complaining that no one is posting queries, answering
>email and it goes for weeks on end - don't you think the SC has a
>responsibility to the users?
>
>At 08:33 AM 5/22/98 -0500, pam cresswell wrote:
>>The question about Roll Calls was not whether they were good or
>>bad. The question was, does the SC have authority to "fire"
>>a CC for not answering. Was there a vote? Was it decided by a
>>board, or did one person say "This is how I want it, therefore
>>it is a rule." Is this how we want things run?
>>Pam
>>jcress(a)tfs.net
>>
>>
>>
>>==== TNGEN Mailing List ====
>>
>>Be sure to send your updates to this mailing list to be
>>included on the "What's New" page.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>==== TNGEN Mailing List ====
>
>All URL's back to USGenWeb should read:
>http://www.usgenweb.org
>-- or --
>http://www.usgenweb.net
>
I think general consensus or common sense should rule here. How long would
YOU allow a site to languish before you thought something should be done
about it? Should the SC wait until the CC decides to say take it away or
what?
When the SC has users complaining that no one is posting queries, answering
email and it goes for weeks on end - don't you think the SC has a
responsibility to the users?
At 08:33 AM 5/22/98 -0500, pam cresswell wrote:
>The question about Roll Calls was not whether they were good or
>bad. The question was, does the SC have authority to "fire"
>a CC for not answering. Was there a vote? Was it decided by a
>board, or did one person say "This is how I want it, therefore
>it is a rule." Is this how we want things run?
>Pam
>jcress(a)tfs.net
>
>
>
>==== TNGEN Mailing List ====
>
>Be sure to send your updates to this mailing list to be
>included on the "What's New" page.
>
>
>
Apparently there has been some misunderstanding about what
office and/or whom these elections effect. To get a list of the
offices that are being effected please go to
http://www.usgenweb.org/about/whoswho.html
The SC's and CC's mentioned in the message are SC's and CC's
representatives, not the actual SC and CC for any particular county
or state.
Bridgett
Bridgett Smith
TNGenWeb State Coordinator
http://www.tngenweb.usit.com
The question about Roll Calls was not whether they were good or
bad. The question was, does the SC have authority to "fire"
a CC for not answering. Was there a vote? Was it decided by a
board, or did one person say "This is how I want it, therefore
it is a rule." Is this how we want things run?
Pam
jcress(a)tfs.net
The Michigan GenWeb does a roll call every month or so. They don't do it through the list, there
is one person that does it, and you just hit the reply, and it's all done.
As Always,
Anne