Bo Johansson wrote:
Robert Carlson wrote:
> Thanks, Bo. The profession stuff and related name changing is
> interesting. He still appears to have had a trade in 1836 (GID
> 2119.7.62900, Lilla Mellösa),
--- "Inh. Skomak." ("inhyses" = lodger, "skomakare" =
Well, it would appear that his hopes of making it as a shoemaker were
based more on the change in name than in any real talent for the craft.
On my grandmother's side of the family there was an in-law who was a
shoemaker that evidently had some success in Eskilstuna, given that the
1900 census lists him as "Skomak.mäst.," which I presume to mean master
shoemaker. There is a bit of irony here, as this fellow, who was also
named Jonsson, didn't switch to a trade name.
Now it happens that I also have a German-born great grandfather who
became a shoemaker in America, but I would presume that his shoe-making
and that of Jonsson's were different in that Jonsson's shoes would have
had wooden soles. Is that a correct assumption?
> but by 1837 (GID 2117.7.46500), he is a torp.
--- GID is 2119.7.46500, [Södermanland] Lilla Mellösa, AI.13, Household
examination, 1836-1840, page 29.
Place: the "torp" Rosenlund on the properties of Remna.
Title: "Torp." ("torpare" = poor tenant farmer).
A "torp" was a small tenant farm on the properties of a larger farm, and
the "torpare" paid the rent by working a set number of days on the main
> But then in 1856-60 (GID 2119.1.2300), I guess he has a trade
> again. He died in 1879, age 72, and his widow died in 1897, age 90.
> None of their four children outlived either of them.
--- Title "Inhyses" (lodger), so no profession is recorded.
The remark is "u.m." which probably means "utan mantalsskrivning"
meaning he was not on the tax rolls, and "utfattig" (too poor to pay taxes).
Probably had put all of his money in the stock market. :)
> I see that there is a remark in HFL GID 2119.8.80000 that appears to be
> questioning whether the second son, Cläs Eric, is dead. What does the
> remark about Göran say, and what is the name of the place that the
> family moved to in 1849? I think this is the only HFL record I am
> missing for the family.
--- The remark for the son does seem to say "Död?", so perhaps he had
left without giving proper notice, and the parish had an unconfirmed
report that he had died.
I presume that there would have been some sort of law requiring this,
but I wonder if there was no fear of being fined when one was too poor
to be on the tax rolls.
The "moving-out" notice actually says that in the tax rolls
year (1845?) the are recorded "på socknen", meaning they were recorded
in the parish but without a permanent address.
And in the next HFL they are listed under "Skrifna på socknen utan
hemvist" in GID 2119.10.38800, [Södermanland] Lilla Mellösa, AI.15,
Household examination, 1846-1850, page 320.
Yes, that is the first one that I had because that is where my presumed
great grandmother, Mathilda Charlotta, was born. I had named the file
differently, so it wasn't amidst the others for Göran et al.
Many, many thanks, Bo, for all this interesting information.