Tammy Guldbransen wrote 2011-06-24 05:20:>
Thank you, Bo, for your comments about my Johannessons from
Saldeberget. I thought that Saldeberget must be a farm.
--- A small farm, size 1/8 mantal, subdivided from the farm Virvhult
(old spelling Hvirfhult) of 5/8 mantal.
Looking at the Swedish Genline records I had found the family
at Hvirshult as you pointed out. Is Hvirshult another parish name?
--- GID 1135.16.4000, [Jönköping] Stengårdshult, AI.10, Household
examination, 1885-1898, page 25, Image 40.
Virvhult (Hvirfhult) is the farm that Säldeberget was subdivided from.
Johan Johannesson's title has been changed (from "äg." = "ägare" =
owner) to "Inh." (inhyses = lodger), and new owner is Johan Andersson in
Hvirfhult, then that is crossed out and Johannes Emil Svensson who
arrived 1893 is the new owner.
In the previous HFL you can see how Johan Johannesson arrived 1877 from
Åsenhöga and took over as owner, and the previous owner Anders
Carlsson's title is changed to "Und." (retired and supported by the farm).
GID 1135.15.30100, [Jönköping] Stengårdshult, AI.9, Household
examination, 1873-1884, page 14, Image 13.
I don't think that the Ignell family now living at Saldeberget
is related to me.
--- Most probably not related.
It would appear that a lot of my ancestral Johannessons/Johanssons/
Johnsons have left for America according to the Swedish Genline records.
I hope you don't mind a couple of more questions. The "1/8 ag.
Johan Andersson Hvirshult" written and crossed off above Saldeberget
on the household examination page you mention - does this mean this
Anderson was the first owner of the farm?
--- It looks like he took over as owner, and Johannes Johannesson became
a lodger. Then The new owner arrived in 1893.
Am I right in assuming that Johan Johannesson and his family lived
on the farm, perhaps helping the owner?
--- Johan Johannesson was owner, and changed staus to lodger.
And then when they left for America, did the next family listed,
that of Johannes Emil Svensson, buy the farm?
--- Probably bought it from Johan Andersson.
Thank you for the emigration information. I guess Johan Johannesson
must have immigrated first, by himself, and then sent for the family
perhaps. I knew that they were in Worcester, Massachusetts by 1892
as their next child was born there and then they came to Canada
I think I have also found Johan Johannesson's parents (Johannes
Johansson 1818-1906) and Cajsa Jonsdotter (1823-1857) at Genline.
--- GID 231.23.13400, [Jönköping] Åker, C.5, Births,Marriages,Deaths,
1833-1860, page 117, Image 63.
Birth date: 22 Dec 1851
Baptised: 24 dec
Parents: "torpare" Johannes Johansson and wife Cajsa Jonsdotter
Mother's age: 28
Address: "torp" Erlandsbo under Gimmarp
They are found at Erlandsbo under Gimmarp in GID 231.14.64600,
[Jönköping] Åker, AI.11, Household examination, 1851-1856, page 26,
I believe that I just stumbled across Johannes Johansson's death
October 27, 1906 at 231.45.2700 at Genline; however, I am wondering
about what it says beside his name as it looks like where he is
from ("f.d. arbetrae fran H....").
--- "f.d. arbetare från Hvilan" (former worker from Hvilan), died of
"ålderdom" (old age).
In the household records I found him at Gimarp Torp. Erlandsbo
from 1846 through 1895. Would Erlandsbo be the farm name?
--- Erlandsbo is the name of the "torp". A "torp" is a small tenant
on the properties of a larger farm, where the tenant pays the rent by
working a set number of days on the main farm.
"under" = on the properties of.
His birth at Genline is at 231.21.93600 at December 27, 1818 I
believe, but I am having a hard time making out his parents' names
to take it the next step back. It definitely looks like Johan
but I can't even hesitate a guess at the rest of it.
--- GID 231.21.93600, [Jönköping] Åker, C.4, Births,Marriages,Deaths,
1803-1832, page 92, Image 51.
Birth date: 27 Dec 1818
Baptised: 1 Jan 1819
Parents: "torpare" Johan Erlandsson and wife Stina Jonasdotter in
Siöbo(??), mother's age 36.
They are found at Sjöbo under Hult, in GID 231.8.6400, [Jönköping] Åker,
AI.6, Household examination, 1814-1822, page 225, Image 64.
// Bo Johansson