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Hi Pat, not sure about why they changed their name, but their father was
named Karl Johansson. They emigrated from Örebro.
There have been lots of good discussions on military names on the list, so I
assume that might have a lot to do with it. Always good reading in the
I have other relatives from Säby, Jönköping län, Pettersson, changing to
Tollin, final destination St Paul, then South Dakota.
Thanks for the kind words,
Karrin in CA
Santa came early and got me Genline, now I am learning to read the
records. I am trying to read a line for a moving out record and I can't make out
all that it says. It is for a Gustaf Anderson. There are two on that page,
but I want the one that has the birth date of 1845-8-20. It is mid page.
It is Gid 646.3.50900 and is list under the 1862 records for Segerstad.
Thanks for any help and thank you all that have help me along on my families.
Congratulations Karrin on a major find with your Bowman(Boman) family.
We are tracing five Bowman(Boman) brothers (formerly Petersson) ancestors
in Jönköping, Sweden. I don't have any reason to believe we have relatives
in common. But do you happen to know what Boman means and why our families
took that name?
Thank you, Pat
Well, Listers, after lots of work, I have finally discovered when the
Brothers Bowman (Boman) were born. I received a letter from a second cousin with
some phone numbers, and I picked up the phone, called Oregon, and got lots of
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Hi Jeff, I forwarded your question regarding Norway on to Charlotte at
Disbyt. She's always been so very helpful and easy to communicate with, she'll let
either the list know, or maybe you personally.
Nite from CA,
The Digital Archives, http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/, has many church
and government records in searchable databases. I haven't seen scans
of the original records on the Web, but I have seen microfilms of both
Norwegian church records and Norwegian-American church records at the
Vesterheim Genealogical Society/Naeseth Library (see
http://vesterheim.org/Genealogy2001/center.html) here in Madison,
On Oct 31, 2004, at 7:35 PM, Jeppsonjeffery(a)aol.com wrote:
> I am wondering is Disbyt and/or Genline Websites have the same type of
> Records for Norway. I also have Norwegian ancestors and if Norways
> Church Records
> are scanned the same way, that would be great.
> Jeff Jeppson
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I am wondering is Disbyt and/or Genline Websites have the same type of
Records for Norway. I also have Norwegian ancestors and if Norways Church Records
are scanned the same way, that would be great.
Alt keys for Pound Sterling is: Alt+156 = £
For cent sign is: Alt+155 = ¢
On Mon, 1 Nov 2004 10:33:29 +1100 "Chris & Lorraine"
> Hi Mary
> I have also just purchased the "Teach Yourself Swedish" book and
> tape by
> Vera Croghan. It cost $A75.00 in Australia. My set only has one
> tape but
> 18 lessons as Elsie has mentioned. The cover says it is published
> by Hodder
> & Stoughton Educational, a division of Hodder Headline Ltd, 338
> Euston Road,
> London NW1 3BH. The book has a UK price of pounds 11.99 (sorry I
> don't have
> a pounds symbol - it there a way to make it using the ALT keys?).
> Inside the cover - For UK order enquiries: please contact Bookpoint
> Ltd, 130
> Milton Park Abingdon, Oxon OX14 4SB. Telephone +44 (0) 1235 827720.
> +44 (0) 1235 400454. Lines are open 09:00 to 18:00, Monday to
> with a 24 hour message answering service. You can also order
> through our
> website www.madaboutbooks.com
> I just found my in a local bookstore.
> As I have only just started I can't say how successful it will be.
> I am
> having trouble with the å, ä, ö sounds as I just see them as a and o
> at the
> moment. The book has lots of everday language and I have found it
> in my first attempt to write to someone in Sweden in Swedish.
> I did notice the Swegate had a learn Swedish link as well.
> Best wishes
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Thank you Elsie and Lorraine,
I found the one you both have on Barnes and Noble's website. Tomorrow I
will buy it at their store. I definitely need the audio part.
It would be so great to be in Minnesota, Rockford or an area where one could
take a live course!
From: Elsie Gustafson [mailto:email@example.com]
Subject: Re: [Sweden] Language Course
"Teach Yourself Swedish" by Vera Croghan.
In the SweGGate website
if one goes to
Facts-> History -> Emigration Era-> Population -> Population Registration
the use of the Church Books for Tax and other info. to be sent to the
can become very real.
The content and purpose of each of the Church Books is explained.
The Mantalskrivning section is very enlightening, and one can follow how the
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In a message dated 10/31/2004 8:49:59 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> The Jönköping web site of births, marriages, and deaths is up and working
That is the BEST news I've had in two months!! Thanks Jim, for letting us
Nancy in upstate NY
Is there a good Swedish Language course with audio? Jerry Longstrom has a
couple on his website but the pages are inactive. I found one for £199 and
one for $199, but I would like to know if there is one that anyone has used
and can recommend.
Hi to List! Happy Saturday nite!
Wondering if someone could search for emigration info for Karl Gustaf
Andersson, born June 1853, Säby, Jönköpings län. Looks like he might have emigrated
around 1880, to, where else? St. Paul, MN.
Thanks so much!
Karrin in CA
My dad, b. 1904 27 June, was too old for WWII and was too young for WWI.
The draft (call up for service) was extended in about 1944 or 45 because
I remember my mother and dad talking about my dad's possible call up and
what that would mean to the family. The top age was never extended and
my dad didn't have to serve in the Army, or enlist in the other branches,
Navy, Marines, Coast Guard. Older men COULD volunteer to serve if they
wished to do so. I don't know the top age for that sort of enlistment
but 1899 probably would not be out of the question.
Yes, a man born in 1899 would have been considered too old to serve in
WWII. Non-citizens could serve and still do. They can attain
citizenship by serving today.
Sat, 30 Oct 2004 10:19:02 +0200 "Ann Viking Saetre"
> Hej list,
> Would a man b 1899 serve in WWII (or concidered to 'old')?
> Would a non US citizen serve, or only US citizen in WWII?
> Yes, Einar fellowers, my vague query concerns Einar V Jakobsson who
> immigrated to US 1923, made his way to Seattle the same year since
> the silence in correspondance to Sweden covers the years of WWII.
Might I suggest that you also send a note to the director of the Swenson
Center. That is if you have not already done so. They love to hear about
happy visitors and the professional manner in which the staff has helped
Glad that you had such a nice experience !
Donna Olovson wrote:
> This note is written to commend the staff at the Swenson Swedish
> Immigration Research Center.
Oh, My, Judy! You're terrific! That's them for sure. What a day this has
been. Also receiving pictures of all of these fine folks! I've never
talked to so many brand new relations!
Thanks so much, Judy!
Karrin in SoCal!
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Please keep this message filed for future reference.
FIRST: It is important to know that the letters with diacritical
marks are separate letters in the Swedish alphabet and
placed at the end, and all lists are alphabetized accordingly. When
people emigrate these letters are altered in both peoples names and
places which may make locating your ancestor in Sweden a little more
difficult. They can be formed in the following ways:
FOR PC USER: make sure the Num (Number) Lock on your key pad is on,
then hold the Alt key and the following numbers from the number pad:
Alt-142 = Ä Alt-132 = ä Alt-143 = Å Alt-134 = å Alt-153 = Ö
Alt-148 = ö
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- alt(option)-a / - shift-alt(option)-a / - alt(option)-u and
then a / - alt(option)-u and then shift-a / - alt(option)-u and
then o / - alt(option)-u and then shift-o
SECOND: An understanding of the patronymic naming system is also
essential. Use this link to learn about Swedish naming practices:
THIRD: It is very important to learn how to do Swedish research and
what records and resources are available. Use this link to learn
FOURTH: There are many online sights with online Swedish records. The
following link has a list:
One site not listed is the Stockholm Archives. It can be found using
the following link:
FIFTH: The records are in Swedish but you can find your way around by
learning a few basic terms, fdde = birth, dd = dead, vigsel =
marriage. For a more comprehensive list of vocabulary words key to
your records search use the following two links:
SIXTH: For those interested in learning more about the Swedish
language, see note, use this link:
SEVENTH: There are many CD collections available for emigration,
censuses, death records, etc. They can be purchased but many on the
list already own the CDs and will do look-ups for free. This link is
one site offering them for sale:
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