Thanks for the detailed response, it's good quality information and it does
help. I did some more digging and have a little more information.
I think Tryphena Bennet was buried in Shalford (just south of Guildford)
1839 age 44 which is about right for a 1794 baptism, an Edward Bennett is
buried in the same place in 1843 age 62. The IGI has a couple of children
of Tryphena and Edward Bennett both Saint Mary, Guildford, Surrey
John chr 24 Sep 1820
James chr 15 Feb 1818
We may have baptisms for Sarah and John's children. There is a series of
IGI baptisms in Holy Trinty, Guildford, where only the father's name, Jn
Steer, is given without the mother's name, which is unusual for a parish
register at that time. I'd like to see the actual baptismal entries in the
Children of JN STEER
MARY STEER chr 19 Feb 1797 Holy Trinity, Guildford, Surrey
WM STEERE chr 31 Mar 1799 Holy Trinity, Guildford, Surrey
MARIA STEERE chr 3 May 1801 Holy Trinity, Guildford, Surrey
JOS STEERE chr 2 Oct 1803 Holy Trinity, Guildford, Surrey
ANN STEERE chr 24 Nov 1805 Holy Trinity, Guildford, Surrey
William's baptism roughly fits with the 3 Nov 1817 examination of Sarah -
"About 23 yrs ago, she married John Steere, who then lived at Petworth,
Sussex, her son William being born 3 yrs later in Holy Trinity Guildford"
(the John Steer/Sarah Steer Petworth marriage was actually 1792).
I'm still a bit puzzled by William's examination, 3 Nov 1817, and the
resulting removal order. It can be concluded that he hadn't earned a right
of settlement in Guildford which is unlikely if he was only eighteen, but if
he was removed then the question is to where? My guess is that his saying
that he didn't know where is father was settled was an failed attempt to
avoid removal back to Petworth. So there is a thought that he could be the
William who witnessed Benjamin Steer and Elizabeth Dilloway's wedding.
The baptism of David Steer 9 Nov 1783 in Egdean of John Steer and Mary
Hersee stood out because David Steer's examination in Guildford, 19 July
1813, recorded "apprentice to Alderton Hersey of Arundel, butcher", who
could have been his father-in-law, uncle or other maternal relative.
I see what I can trace in the 1851 census and it would helpful to see 1841
entries, however, there doesn't appear to be a census surname index for
Guildford for the earlier year.
John in Dorking, England
----- Original Message -----
From: "Barrie Steer & Evelyn Garzoli" <garste(a)ix.net.au>
To: "John Steer" <jdsteer(a)btopenworld.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 3:06 AM
Subject: Re: [STEER] Guildford Settlement Examinations (2)
G'day Steer Listers,
I have just had a chance to look at any Petworth connections for these
The Petworth registers have:
"John Steer and Sarah Steer marrying by banns on 7 June 1792; botp;
and spinster, respectively; he signed, she marked, in the presence
William Fleming and Sarah Steer".
John may have come from a Duncton family (bp 9 Nov 1766), eldest of whom
Sarah (bp 1763) so possibly the witness.
The bride Sarah, if she were very young at marriage, could have come from
Petworth family (bp 3 July 1775); parents William Steer and Ann
this case Sarah's next youngest sister was Triphena (bp. 1777)
There were no burials on the Petworth registers obvious for John or Sarah,
supporting their move away from Petworth. However, they did appear to
baptise 2 children there: Benjamin on same day as their wedding (7 June
1792) and perhaps the reason for a wedding of a couple who could have had
years difference in age; and Triphena (2 Nov 1794). Nothing more is
mentioned of Triphena, which would fit with her marriage in Guildford in
Benjamin, however, married in Petworth:
"Benjamin Steer and Elizabeth Dilloway by banns on 27 April 1819; botp,
bachelor and spinster, both marked, in the presence of William Steer (x)
Benjamin and Elizabeth had 3 children in Petworth (1821, 1824, 1826), the
third conceived just before Benjamin died :
"Benjamin Steer of Petworth buried 18 Dec 1825, aged 33 years".
Do we have birth/baptism dates for Sarah and John's children William and
Re: David Steer (butcher, settled in Arundel) in another message
There were 2 Davids in the Egdean/Petworth registers about whom nothing
has been found in the Egdean, Fittleworth or Petworth registers:
1) bp 9 Nov 1783 in Egdean of John Steer and Mary Hersee
2) bp 29 March 1783 in Petworth of Thomas Steer and Jane Osborne. This
family appeared to move their iron-working/blacksmithing from Egdean to
Petworth during the time they were baptising children: the first 3 were
baptised in Egdean, the last 5 in Petworth.
Does any of this help. look forward to feed-back.